Season 2 Ep1 The enigma(SPOILER THREAD)

So the full episode is popping up all over YouTube and most likely released in AUS so feel free to use this thread to discuss any spoilers from the episode

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  • Awesome bit that ending tho

  • So Waller knows who we are and we will be a double agent working for her.

  • edited August 7

    I look forward to this episode when releases tomorrow! Yea and so many choices I will make different choices than people who played it! Also I think I will save Iman Investa than the agents and I think there seems to be a bit of a hint of a future romance with her,but I don't know if that will happen or not,but I hope it does cause I like that it starts show it only she has a crush on Batman.

    Yeah the ending.WOW things are about to get real heated in the coming future episodes.

  • Harleen Quinzel is also confirmed. There goes my theory Avesta was secretly working for Joker.

    I also hope we will be able to romance Avesta, she has potential.

    strwar3 posted: »

    I look forward to this episode when releases tomorrow! Yea and so many choices I will make different choices than people who playe

  • edited August 7

    Yup she does have potential and I think she probably find that Bruce Wayne is Batman and that will make me happy and make the romance even more happen

    Harleen Quinzel is also confirmed. There goes my theory Avesta was secretly working for Joker. I also hope we will be able to romance Avesta, she has potential.

  • It's not much of a stretch to assume Waller will keep her in the loop and use her to control our allegiances.
    We will probably work alongside Avesta on the field (especially if her partner dies) and report to Waller occasionally.

    That's how I see things at least.

    strwar3 posted: »

    Yup she does have potential and I think she probably find that Bruce Wayne is Batman and that will make me happy and make the romance even more happen

  • edited August 7

    Pretty much but since Waller knows Bruce is Batman.Avesta will probably choose to protect Bruce(once she finds out you are Batman,I mean come on it's gonna happen) and try to do what she wants to do for him(cause Romance) and we need start a shipping thread soon on here! I want this romance even more.

    Iman Avesta/Bruce Wayne Shipping Thread I will start it soon tomorrow or you can start it if you want

    It's not much of a stretch to assume Waller will keep her in the loop and use her to control our allegiances. We will probably w

  • So who do you guys think iced riddler?

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    The Pact,of course! But probably John Doe/Joker

    zeke10 posted: »

    So who do you guys think iced riddler?

  • Any guesses as to members of the pact?

    strwar3 posted: »

    The Pact,of course! But probably John Doe/Joker

  • Harley Quinn,Bane,and Strange

    zeke10 posted: »

    Any guesses as to members of the pact?

  • No go ahead with your shipping thread. But, I think Selina Kyle will be once again positioned as the major romance option.
    I honestly don't think Telltale will go with Avesta.

    I would like to be wrong as I don't think Selina is worth it, but Telltale writers can't possibly account for so many narrative paths.

    strwar3 posted: »

    Pretty much but since Waller knows Bruce is Batman.Avesta will probably choose to protect Bruce(once she finds out you are Batman,

  • Yeah i will do it tomorrow and I do think they will probably do it! I mean it would make sense in my case and how it will change where how you left things with Selina in Season 1.

    I will go for it when given the option cause it's better to have someone who sees Batman/Bruce has somebody she can trust other trusting Waller. She will make things helpful and easier when she helps Batman (which she will)

    No go ahead with your shipping thread. But, I think Selina Kyle will be once again positioned as the major romance option. I hone

  • I've already heard some people say this is a lot better than the first season. So I officially have high hopes.

  • edited August 7

    Waller revealing she knows Batman's identity isn't surprising to anyone who watched Suicide Squad.

  • Riddle me this. How many times did Dave Fennoy die in Telltale games?

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator

    If you're looking for a serious answer, three times; Lee (TWD), Finch (TFTB), and now Lucius

    If you were not looking for a serious answer, too bad, because you're still getting one anyways

    AronDracula posted: »

    Riddle me this. How many times did Dave Fennoy die in Telltale games?

  • Poor Lucius. I did not see that coming. I'm guessing we're going to address either Tiffany learning about Bruce being Batman or we get the chance to tell her and then she has to reconcile that knowledge with her father's death. Still getting a lot of Batgirl vibes from her.

    Alfred's not looking too good. Seems to be symbolic that Bruce's oldest allies are leaving him or in dire straits.

    Avestra reminds me of Chase Meridian from Batman: Forever. I wonder if she will serve any kind of love interest role given the way they're developing her relationship with Batman (though she doesn't altogether seem that interested in Bruce Wayne) and how Catwoman's return will factor into things.

    Of course they'd give us obvious riddles to answer...

    I was not expecting them to pull a Carmine on Riddler. Wow.

    Y'know, Waller knowing Bruce Wayne is Batman has generally been pretty consistent but I have to admit her revealing it at the end there still took me off guard.

    Poor Jim. He's Commissioner for only two episodes and then he basically loses his job.I'm guessing we'll still probably be teaming-up with him in-spite of his being bumped down by Waller, 'cuz it's Gordon.

    I'm guessing Harleen is probably going to be John's "in" with the Pack (and they're probably the "associates" John was talking about at the funeral). It would be funny if she gave Riddler guff for his obsession with Batman but can't help herself as she falls for John and gives in to what he wants (at least if she's anything like traditional Harley). I wonder if we're going to see her develop into Harley Quinn as John develops into the Joker?

    I wonder if we'll see Selina pop up with the Pack as they hire her services?

  • I was right...Lady Arkham is alive...well no body was found. I broke down and watched my favorite youtuber Jacksepticeye play it....quite a bit better than S1.

  • Now that I think about it, was there any piece of info in the game that confirmed Riddler's real name? I don't think anyone ever referred to him as Edward Nigma.

  • Does Avesta survive regardless?

    Harleen Quinzel is also confirmed. There goes my theory Avesta was secretly working for Joker. I also hope we will be able to romance Avesta, she has potential.

  • It still caught me a bit off guard since Telltale's DC Universe is evidently very different but at the same time, it doesn't take much to put two and two together, I think I was more surprised that Avesta didn't figure that out tbh lol

    AronDracula posted: »

    Waller revealing she knows Batman's identity isn't surprising to anyone who watched Suicide Squad.

  • At least Gabriel lives on... granted he either almost dies or gets amnesia... poor Dave Fennoy characters.

    Deltino posted: »

    If you're looking for a serious answer, three times; Lee (TWD), Finch (TFTB), and now Lucius If you were not looking for a serious answer, too bad, because you're still getting one anyways

  • I'm still wondering when we'll meet Barbara Gordon, I'm not entirely sure if Tiffany will become Batgirl tbh, perhaps a choice will decide which of the two becomes the Oracle and which becomes Batgirl? Though I doubt it.

    I really hope that Alfred doesn't die this season, it's too soon.

    I'm not sure how I feel about a potential love triangle, btw does Avesta survive regardless of answering the Riddler's questions?

    I'm hoping that Season 2 will have another Harvey-esque and Selena-esque series of decisions, where you can steer them down different paths: In my playthrough for example: Harvey never entirely became 'Two-Face' and Selena seemed to question her perspective on herself but in other playthroughs I've seen Harvey become a full on Two-Face as well as Selena being assured that she's just a criminal.

    Frontier246 posted: »

    Poor Lucius. I did not see that coming. I'm guessing we're going to address either Tiffany learning about Bruce being Batman or we

  • Yes, but she goes deaf if you answer the Riddler twice. Not sure what happens otherwise, I didn't have time for a replay.

    prink34320 posted: »

    Does Avesta survive regardless?

  • He is never referred to as Edward Nygma in the game, but I'd guess it's still his name in this canon. Unless Telltale confirms otherwise, I'll assume that's the case.

    Frontier246 posted: »

    Now that I think about it, was there any piece of info in the game that confirmed Riddler's real name? I don't think anyone ever referred to him as Edward Nigma.

  • She is guilt-ridden but otherwise relatively unscathed.

    I wonder if her condition is permanent if you are hellbent on saving her colleagues.

    Yes, but she goes deaf if you answer the Riddler twice. Not sure what happens otherwise, I didn't have time for a replay.

  • DeltinoDeltino Moderator
    edited August 8

    btw does Avesta survive regardless of answering the Riddler's questions?

    Yep. If you answer all his questions correctly, she goes deaf, but everyone survives. If you don't answer the first question, Blake dies. If you don't answer the second one, another agent also dies. Blake always dies first if you don't answer correctly, but you can save the second agent by answering the second question.

    prink34320 posted: »

    I'm still wondering when we'll meet Barbara Gordon, I'm not entirely sure if Tiffany will become Batgirl tbh, perhaps a choice wil

  • I think it said Hello E! Or something in one of the mails in the watertower. So I assume its Edward Nygma.

    Frontier246 posted: »

    Now that I think about it, was there any piece of info in the game that confirmed Riddler's real name? I don't think anyone ever referred to him as Edward Nigma.

  • Wow honestly this was one if the better telltale episodes I've played in quite some time. The action, the characters, the writing I thought was pretty good too. And boy it was a long episode, how I've missed those 2 hour episodes. AND THAT ENDING! Can't wait for episode 2.

  • LADY ARKHAM IS ALIVE? IS IT POSSIBLE HARVEY IS GOING TO RETURN? A hint or something I just glanced through this thread. Didn't play the episode yet

    I was right...Lady Arkham is alive...well no body was found. I broke down and watched my favorite youtuber Jacksepticeye play it....quite a bit better than S1.

  • Me too. I kind of thought she was piecing it all together but nah. Anyways it'll be interesting to see if any romance starts up with Avesta.

    prink34320 posted: »

    It still caught me a bit off guard since Telltale's DC Universe is evidently very different but at the same time, it doesn't take much to put two and two together, I think I was more surprised that Avesta didn't figure that out tbh lol

  • Poor poor Lucius that scene made me so sad. I think the only Dave Fennoy character who didn’t die was Gabriel from MCSM and he still came close to dying. That ending at first I was confused because I didn’t hear Waller say Bruce’s name then I went to see a Let’s play and just wow completely caught me off guard also since I didn’t see suicide squad. If anyone can explain to me how suicide squad makes this not much of a surprise that would be great I don’t care about spoilers.

  • I'm gonna guess Deadshot is in there, and that he's the figure on the bridge, because we have Amanda Waller, the Suicide Squad is her baby, and Deadshot's one of the main Suicide Squad characters. I hope he's a southern redneck like he is in the comics. I have a hunch that Joker's pals (The Pact) are the Tell Tale version of a proto-Suicide Squad. Joker says he was released, that he didn't escape, so how would that happen? And Riddler says The Agency created him. So I bet he was killed to cover for Waller and what The Agency's been up to.

    zeke10 posted: »

    Any guesses as to members of the pact?

  • Great first episode. :-) Didn't expect Riddler to die. I chose Avesta over one of her colleagues, thought it was a great scene and a tough choice.

    If mods are watching, I did come across one bug. I got the kiss and fond parting with Selina, and during the episode it was reflected by Bruce saying he was looking forward to her return in the write up. But when I went into the Batcave in the Extras section, I looked at those mementos on the wall again, and her write up kind of blinked from one to another, and it settled on the 'we had our differences, but I enjoyed sparring with her' version. I'm hoping it didn't change my import choice, or I'll end up having to replicate a play through to fix it.

  • If you are shitty to Gordon he does not lose his job, he just stops workong with you, breaking your partnership and Waller does not demote him

    Frontier246 posted: »

    Poor Lucius. I did not see that coming. I'm guessing we're going to address either Tiffany learning about Bruce being Batman or we

  • Loved the length but know it won't continue that way.

    Found it incredibly hard to believe how careless Batman was at several parts of this episode.

    I also think this may be the first time ever in a TT game. Not sure of this though...Where there is this weird new dynamic where the player KNOWS things the person we are playing as doesn't. Talking about John. Not sure how I feel about that. It makes none of the choices feel appropriate in dialogue.

  • I thought that except the guy on the right i thought that could be deadshot or strange and i mean by the ep 2 picture

    strwar3 posted: »

    Harley Quinn,Bane,and Strange

  • O doubt will see her again at least not this season due to having quite an few upcoming villains

    I was right...Lady Arkham is alive...well no body was found. I broke down and watched my favorite youtuber Jacksepticeye play it....quite a bit better than S1.

  • I agree with you...but I do like that she is out there somewhere.

    zeke10 posted: »

    O doubt will see her again at least not this season due to having quite an few upcoming villains

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