Kate is fickle and unfaithful this proves it.

I feel almost like Kate's deliberately just trying to do everything opposite of David.

  1. Kate wanted to get the fuck out of Richmond even though she got medical treatment there and her guts were spilling everywhere and near death. David wants her to stay.
  2. Kate now wants to help Richmond. David wants to leave.

a. Kate married David
b. Now she's hitting on her brother in law.

I think those cases correlate very well with her personality. She's a fickle, disloyal slut.

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  • edited September 10

    Yeah, I didn't really like how my earliest favorite ANF character just got demoted to being the designated contrarian where David is concerned.

    At the very least, her wanting to help save Richmond was set up and explained leading up to the climax. Plus, she was basically following David at that point before he suddenly decided to call it quits.

    Also, gotta love how so many people went from believing Kate is an abuse victim to suddenly unfailingly hating on her in waves the moment David was around to interact with, up to calling her unfaithful slut and saying she actively wanted David dead when none of that was really implied the case. Not rife with unfortunate implications in-universe and out at all.

  • edited September 10

    Kate wanted to get the fuck out of Richmond even though she got medical treatment there and her guts were spilling everywhere and near death.

    Because the people in Richmond killed Mariana and shot Kate in the guts. I'd want to leave Richmond too, if that were to happen to me, regardless whether they treated my wounds or not. I wouldn't want to be in a camp that shot my daughter and shot me as well at first sight. I mean, who would?

    David wants her to stay.

    Well of course he wanted her to stay. Kate was David's wife! David was glad to see Kate was well despite her being shot in the stomach and regardless of their past sour relationship.Also, I'd guess it was mainly because of Gabe.

    Kate now wants to help Richmond.

    Kate realized that the most people in Richmond aren't ruthless cold-blooded killers like Badger and that the most people living there were good people + she caused the deaths of children and other people. It's only natural that she wanted to redeem herself by saving the people, despite the cliche of someone taking all the blame to him/herself.

    David wants to leave.

    David got betrayed by the people he swore to protect as the head of security. Close comrades of his stabbed him in the back and tried to hang him. I would be pretty pissed about it too and I'd certainly want to leave.

    Kate married David

    Kate said it herself, falling in love is the easy part. Staying in love is the hardest part. Also, I believe David changed quite a bit after his marriage to Kate. People change and suddenly Kate realized that he's not the person he once married.

    Now she's hitting on her brother in law.

    Well, who wouldn't hit on Javier to be honest? It was clear that Kate admired Javier for a long time and was completely loyal to him. And I'd guess Javier was a lot more likable than the hotheaded idiot that David was.

    I think those cases correlate very well with her personality. She's a fickle, disloyal slut.

    Nah.

  • hellfront7070 said:
    I think those cases correlate very well with her personality. She's a fickle, disloyal slut.

    Let's try to phrase criticisms in a less abrasive way, please. Thanks.

  • Agreed.

    Kate realized that the most people in Richmond aren't ruthless cold-blooded killers like Badger and that the most people living there were good people + she caused the deaths of children and other people. It's only natural that she wanted to redeem herself by saving the people, despite the cliche of someone taking all the blame to him/herself.

    You might as well just underline this part specifically since the rest is stuff that I really wish had been more "consistent" and/or emphasized than it was. That and it reminded her of how she felt when she wasn't able to protect/save Mariana, making it all the more personal. Plus, it was technically David's plan that she wholeheartedly agreed with, hence why she got so upset when he suddenly decided to just run away.

    Well, who wouldn't hit on Javier to be honest?

    I'm not at liberty to answer that question, so I'll take your word for it.

    Findagon posted: »

    Kate wanted to get the fuck out of Richmond even though she got medical treatment there and her guts were spilling everywhere and

  • edited September 10

    Yeaaah because using gendered slurs as means of getting your point across really does bode well for people... good luck with that, buddy.

  • She decided to save Richmond when she saw all of the dying people and kids that were suffering due to the hole in the wall, which she felt completely responsible for.

  • edited September 11

    We get it, you hate Kate. Now can you stop spamming the entire TWD section of this forum with your Kate hate *posts?

  • edited September 11

    This. I usually hate saying stuff like this, but it honestly just seems like people stubbornly ignoring what is just short of being spelled out for them for the sake of having something to complain about.

    She decided to save Richmond when she saw all of the dying people and kids that were suffering due to the hole in the wall, which she felt completely responsible for.

  • edited September 11

    I think everyone knew she was unfaithful to David, that was the whole plot between them. Speaking of which, she had reasons to be disloyal to him, David was no better.

  • edited September 11

    Speaking of which, she had reasons to be disloyal to him, David was no better.

    Don'cha just love how they did nothing with that, btw? Good thing there weren't Teams with any focus on rivalry this time around, cause that be a complete waste ti--oh WAIT!

    Dumbass Competition Freaks
    NorthStars posted: »

    I think everyone knew she was unfaithful to David, that was the whole plot between them. Speaking of which, she had reasons to be disloyal to him, David was no better.

  • But it is just so easy to do that...and not take in consideration some of the things we know about David....I am all for placing blame equally for the marriage being bad...David likes a ordered life...Kate is not like that.

    Life is more complicated than to just blame one person or take one side.

    Somewhere in all the flashbacks and some of the dialogue you get a better picture of Kate...but the writing did her no favors.

    elricily posted: »

    Yeaaah because using gendered slurs as means of getting your point across really does bode well for people... good luck with that, buddy.

  • Exactly...this shows that Kate has a heart and can feel guilt. It is not being fickle....it is doing the right thing...not tearing off on some mission of Revenge like David did.

    DabigRG posted: »

    This. I usually hate saying stuff like this, but it honestly just seems like people stubbornly ignoring what is just short of being spelled out for them for the sake of having something to complain about.

  • Yeah but you participated lol.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Speaking of which, she had reasons to be disloyal to him, David was no better. Don'cha just love how they did nothing with

  • For the sake of contributing, babe. Even then, my post is really short and acknowledges how pointless taking a side is this time around.

    Yeah but you participated lol.

  • edited September 12

    the reason why i hate Kate is because she is the: ´´insert Love interest to make you pick the more controversial decisions.´´
    I mean if it wasnt Kate who offered wanted to leave Richmond but Tripp or eleanor instead im fairly sure that the decision would not be as popular as it is ((Not sure of the current choice stats so i may look like an idiot if less people picked it at this point.))
    there are other characters who are involved in this same cliche like Snow from Wolf among us ((not saying she s a bad character but that telltale does put her side to be in the more evil decisions in the game so that more people will pick it.))

  • No, assigning gendered slurs is unacceptable no matter the individual it is aimed at. Kate isn't my most favourite character, but I will not base my argument on whether she was 'promiscuous' or not. I am not trying to defend her character. Dislike her all you want, write a thorough argument as to why, but please do take caution in how you choose to answer that. Don't stoop so low as to throw about terms many women strive to keep away from.

    But it is just so easy to do that...and not take in consideration some of the things we know about David....I am all for placing b

  • It really did disappoint me that after being set up to play a major role in the story, she get's worfed early on and is increasingly neglected outside of the so-called love triangle subplot(if you can call it that) and/or being the designated contrarian to what David's up to at the moment, though that notably got subverted for a while before being flipped around at the end.

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    the reason why i hate Kate is because she is the: ´´insert Love interest to make you pick the more controversial decisions.´´ I m

  • edited September 12

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    She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was.

    Survival of the fittest.

  • She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was. Survival of the fittest.

    I ship Javi and Kate but thats pretty harsh. Before Javi even showed up David and Kate were having money/marriage/anger problems. Kate just saw this even tempered brother who was free to travel the world and wanted that.

    And in terms of survival of the fittest, Javi always gets manhandled by David and needs to be saved by a child. David was a literal soldier lol.

    She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was. Survival of the fittest.

  • Before Javi even showed up David and Kate were having money/marriage/anger problems. Kate just saw this even tempered brother who was free to travel the world and wanted that.

    Pretty much.

    She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was. Survival of the fittest. I ship Javi and

  • Remember when people were going on about getting to cuck David? "Good times, good times."

    She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was. Survival of the fittest.

  • David was a literal soldier

    Was he? He cried during a batting cage match because he couldn't "beat his brother." Boy had some HUGE insecurity issues.

    Women aren't interested in children who leave behind their family because they feel "restricted" and then place their brother in their shoes and not expect the woman they supposedly love to not catch some feeling toward.

    Kate was only doing what would be natural, feeling love for a person who did what the husband was supposed to do and without any expectations.

    She only got with Javi cause he was a real man and not a cuckboi like David was. Survival of the fittest. I ship Javi and

  • I love that that actually got to happen though, fuck David.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Remember when people were going on about getting to cuck David? "Good times, good times."

  • Eh.
    ....
    Fuck David! :grin:

    I love that that actually got to happen though, fuck David.

  • Boy had some HUGE insecurity issues.

    Yeah, no kiddin.

    Kate was only doing what would be natural, feeling love for a person who did what the husband was supposed to do and without any expectations.

    Nice Job Breaking It, David.

    David was a literal soldier Was he? He cried during a batting cage match because he couldn't "beat his brother." Boy had s

  • He had been "breaking it" for a long time, considering he whines almost constantly... I can't remember 5 lines in which he wasn't crying and moaning like a 4 year old girl.

    I guess we can see where Gabe got it from.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Boy had some HUGE insecurity issues. Yeah, no kiddin. Kate was only doing what would be natural, feeling love for a person who did what the husband was supposed to do and without any expectations. Nice Job Breaking It, David.

  • Also tell me how she's supposed to file for a divorce in an apocalypse? Hmm?

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    elricily posted: »

    No, assigning gendered slurs is unacceptable no matter the individual it is aimed at. Kate isn't my most favourite character, but

  • Pretty much how she does in the end minus immediately going to kiss/diss Javier.

    elricily posted: »

    Also tell me how she's supposed to file for a divorce in an apocalypse? Hmm?

  • It's incredibly unfair that male characters that do just as bad, if not worse can so easily be left off the hook. If you're going to fault one for the same reason, if you have to do so with the other. What Kate did wasn't even that bad. She was bound to have grown attached to Javi being apart from David all those years. However I interpreted that not as romantic, but more platonic; a familial bond if you will, because that's what I as the player wanted. It's completely subjective, and entirely up to you as the player however you wish to perceive it. But, there's no reason to throw about gendered slurs. So yes, I do agree with you there. I should hope David got the message.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Pretty much how she does in the end minus immediately going to kiss/diss Javier.

  • edited September 14

    The problem with Kate is not that she is unfaithful, she could not possibly have imagined during those four years she low-key hit on Javi David was alive, and once she realized he was, after all, alive she definitely wanted to explain things to him and all.

    The real problem with Kate though is that she is a fucking retard who either is too dumb to understand how humans work or who purposefully caused trouble. This idiot instead of outright telling David when they first met she is not interested in him anymore, keeps feeding him hope and plays along with his clearly still alive affection for her rather than just refusing it. Then, during a heated argument on what to do next during episode 5, the hair brained fool decides to break the news to David by implying, in both scenarios, that Javi's been fucking her, effectively turning him against us. And as we, of course, take the whole fall for her mess with David, she remains untouched but, oh!!! sooo incredibly horrified and worried.. staying still on her spot... doing absolutely nothing to put an end to the mess her stupidity caused. Whether she did this because she lacks any brain, or because she deliberately wanted David pissed is a mystery to me. Either way, fuck Kate, good riddance.

  • This idiot instead of outright telling David when they first met she is not interested in him anymore, keeps feeding him hope and plays along with his clearly still alive affection for her rather than just refusing it.

    To be fair, she was laying there injured in the city of the people who shot her. Not exactly the position to feel comfortable breaking that kind of news, much less have the nerve to do so .

    And much like she determinately did with Javier, any hope David was supposedly fed was from a spoon of his own imagination.

    And as we, of course, take the whole fall for her mess with David, she remains untouched but, oh!!! sooo incredibly horrified and worried.. staying still on her spot... doing absolutely nothing to put an end to the mess her stupidity caused. Whether she did this because she lacks any brain, or because she deliberately wanted David pissed is a mystery to me.

    Yeah, that was dumb. You'd think she'd have gotten involved when Gabe got wrenched, but you know how that is. Gotta make Clementine's presence matter somehow.

    The problem with Kate is not that she is unfaithful, she could not possibly have imagined during those four years she low-key hit

  • edited September 12

    David and Kate had been married pre-apocalypse. Their past bond was not his imagination, Kate should've told him she did not wish for such bond to keep on existing, that it was a new life or something, that they didn't know each other anymore, etc... anything but playing along with it and scheming to convince his brother to abandon him by running away with her and his son the second he turns his back to her? I didn't really mind it, but I'm pretty sure it's a kinda heinous thing to do... morally speaking.

    DabigRG posted: »

    This idiot instead of outright telling David when they first met she is not interested in him anymore, keeps feeding him hope and

  • i have to say that while i did hate Kate during above the law and around every corner i did like her in from the gallows ((And also during ties that bind half 1 half 2 ))
    Dont get why people say that her wanting to save richmond was too forced since it was shown in the episode that she blamed herself for the herd entering richmond.

    DabigRG posted: »

    It really did disappoint me that after being set up to play a major role in the story, she get's worfed early on and is increasing

  • Naturally, even if I think the hate she got was a little too wavelike to begin with.

    Honestly, I suspect some people's definition of natural storytelling and/or consistency is "what would be convenient to the story as I play it."

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    i have to say that while i did hate Kate during above the law and around every corner i did like her in from the gallows ((And als

  • I could sorta why people would initially jump to that conclusion, but just how many clung to it even when her actual motives at the moment were clearly unrelated for the most part and she did things that subverted such a notion always seemed a bit daft and unfair to me.

    Alas, one of the closest things to character development she got was being able to confront with a problem instead of putting off or simply avoiding it. For better or worse, any resulting backlash that might've from David ended up being directed at Javier instead.

    David and Kate had been married pre-apocalypse. Their past bond was not his imagination, Kate should've told him she did not wish

  • I found Kate to be REALLY annoying but I wouldn't use those words that you used to describe her dang that was harsh lol. I don't ship Kate and Javi either.

  • David's character is a lot more nuanced and complex than you are letting on. Not saying hes perfect but hes definitely not some we4k b3tA cuckbo1 3edgy5me

    David was a literal soldier Was he? He cried during a batting cage match because he couldn't "beat his brother." Boy had s

  • Prove me wrong.

    Hard evidence only, please. Not personal perception.

    David's character is a lot more nuanced and complex than you are letting on. Not saying hes perfect but hes definitely not some we4k b3tA cuckbo1 3edgy5me

  • Yes, please. I need to hear this.

    David's character is a lot more nuanced and complex than you are letting on. Not saying hes perfect but hes definitely not some we4k b3tA cuckbo1 3edgy5me

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