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:: [Spoilers] Chapter 4: Trial & Execution ::

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hey everybody!

I've skimmed through some reviews, opinions and first impressions of people on this site concerning the fourth chapter of Tales. Mostly people are very content with the revelations the fourth chapter brought forth, which is an awesome job, TellTale!

With that said, I'd still like to share some issues that bother me, concerning the Trial & Execution of Guybrush Threepwood. To be quite honest and blunt, I was a little disappointed with some fundamental aspects of this chapter.

Inventory
Every piece of inventory seemed like a very random piece of rubbish ^^;; why not come up with everyday items like scissors, cutlery, bubblegum, cork, needles, mallet, chisel, cheese (most of CMI's items, except for the sudden random-spam inside the snake) and use these in a smart, clever and logical puzzle. What's with the leg-shaped lamp, the glass eyeball with superpowers, 6 different warm liquids, envelopped voodoo-summons. They seem like a very cheap way to integrate inventory in puzzle set-ups (less is more, basic items make puzzle more clever). And really, Tales really has an overkill on coupons, maps and the usage of the hook for lockpicking purposes.

Stan
Another issue is Stan. Stan is by far my all time favorite character from the Monkey Island series! I was secretly hoping he'd turn up as a lawyer in court with his awesome retorical arm-spamming and sexy voice and eyebrow movements that'd make you buy anything he'd sell! ("Welcome to the mutual of Staan ~~"). Alas, with his voice actor and goofy and chubby appearance, I experienced his character as very annoying and unlikeable. With the original Stan from MI2 and CMI, I felt bad for him when I locked him in a coffin or gave him a sad face with the death certificate just to solve a puzzle (which is superfunny and comically charming), but now he just didn't do it for me, I couldn't care less what happened to Stan.

Drama
That simply didn't add up.. It seems very inconsistent to my previous Monkey Island experiences. And I did -not- like angry guybrush. I wonder how this all will unfold in the series finale.

DeSinge
It seems like the Monkey Island series is developping a new stereotype. Just like Ozzie from EMI, DeSinge is a dislikeable ausländer that seeks control of a supernatural (superlative) superpower but gets smashed violently like a bug in the process (grinded to pulp like ozzie/shredded to bits like DeSinge). This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't know what to make of it actually.

I'm not trying to complain towards TellTale with this post! In fact, they've certainly provided several truely epic and memorable Monkey Island moments throughout the chapters! (voodoo lady tarot, face-off challenge, awesome characters like DeSinge, Morgan, Bugeye and Anemone). Also this chapter had some thrills in store for me :3 The interior of the courtroom and the SCUMM-feel at Club 41 were breathtaking!! I'm also very excited to see what will happen in chapter 5!

I just wanted to share my thoughts on chapter 4 with all you monkey-fans on the forum! I'm really curious to what you're opinions are to the points mentioned above! So please react ^^

Much love to TellTale and fans <3
yoshiwam ~
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  • Secret Fawful;218265 said:
    Fair enough, but treating it as a monstrous tragedy is complete nonsense. t's hardly the worst in a game ever.
    I never said it was. I still think its a sterling series, but the overwhelming praise for the latest chapter seems a little... misplaced.


    And going back to yoshiwam's original point, the stuff we're starting to pick up in the inventory DOES seem to be getting a little ridiculous. Much more challenging when you're carting around the everyday items like breath mints, or cheese.
  • Miaharpy" said:
    When you think about it, Tales pulled off the same thing. Guybrush goes to look for Elaine, near the end of chapter 1 Guybrush learns about the Pox.

    Not that much change in anything. The only 2 games that didn't follow the 1st two games was Curse and Escape. On Curse, Elaine turned into a gold statue in the beginning of the game. Escape, you basically just doing a chore for almost the whole game.
    I was referring to the scene where LeChuck gave a flower to Elaine at the end of the first chapter, which was the start of the dramatic (literary ->) romantic storyline.
  • When you think about it... Tales probably has the best storyline.... If you look at all the other games as if they are a book or movie... It probably wouldn't be as good. With plot lines, adding character development will create mood to the story.

    I think they did pretty good with it even with the drama. Sure there is drama ever since the 1st chapter. But if you take a english class... You would realize that chapter 4 is the top of the peak of the story and chapter 5 should make the whole story fall into place. I think we should actually wait till chapter 5 comes out.
  • Miaharpy;218298 said:
    When you think about it... Tales probably has the best storyline....
    I agree, up until the point where everyone starts dying :p
  • i do agree with OPs comment about inventory, i mean a leg shaped lamp is clever, but cmon, how many times do we pick locks with hooks?


    damn brilliant episode if i may add.
  • Miaharpy" said:
    But if you take a english class...
    what's that supposed to mean?
    Miaharpy" said:
    chapter 4 is the top of the peak of the story and chapter 5 should make the whole story fall into place. I think we should actually wait till chapter 5 comes out.
    I am well aware that chapter four is the climax of the build up tension and I know that everything will be clear at the end of the game (even though there might be some questions). I'll say it again: that, which I think does not fit the monkey island concept, has nested in the story of Tales, no matter what the story boils down to.
  • VickyL;218306 said:
    I agree, up until the point where everyone starts dying :p
    So.... Are you saying right when the people die you start thinking it has to much drama? Well, it does add a new twist, but just remember it's still only the 4th chapter and they will have to 'revive' Guybrush and mostly Morgan will return too because Telltale would probably gain 'hate mails' from Morgan's fans. LOL
  • Only, as I've said before, when you kill off more than one within half a chapter.
  • VickyL;218315 said:
    Only, as I've said before, when you kill off more than one within half a chapter.
    Do I have to point down to the number 1 rule about the Monkey Island series in my signature? XD
  • I guess the writing was really effective if the drama in it caused this much discussion. It's how it should be. ^^
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