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:: [Spoilers] Chapter 4: Trial & Execution ::

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hey everybody!

I've skimmed through some reviews, opinions and first impressions of people on this site concerning the fourth chapter of Tales. Mostly people are very content with the revelations the fourth chapter brought forth, which is an awesome job, TellTale!

With that said, I'd still like to share some issues that bother me, concerning the Trial & Execution of Guybrush Threepwood. To be quite honest and blunt, I was a little disappointed with some fundamental aspects of this chapter.

Inventory
Every piece of inventory seemed like a very random piece of rubbish ^^;; why not come up with everyday items like scissors, cutlery, bubblegum, cork, needles, mallet, chisel, cheese (most of CMI's items, except for the sudden random-spam inside the snake) and use these in a smart, clever and logical puzzle. What's with the leg-shaped lamp, the glass eyeball with superpowers, 6 different warm liquids, envelopped voodoo-summons. They seem like a very cheap way to integrate inventory in puzzle set-ups (less is more, basic items make puzzle more clever). And really, Tales really has an overkill on coupons, maps and the usage of the hook for lockpicking purposes.

Stan
Another issue is Stan. Stan is by far my all time favorite character from the Monkey Island series! I was secretly hoping he'd turn up as a lawyer in court with his awesome retorical arm-spamming and sexy voice and eyebrow movements that'd make you buy anything he'd sell! ("Welcome to the mutual of Staan ~~"). Alas, with his voice actor and goofy and chubby appearance, I experienced his character as very annoying and unlikeable. With the original Stan from MI2 and CMI, I felt bad for him when I locked him in a coffin or gave him a sad face with the death certificate just to solve a puzzle (which is superfunny and comically charming), but now he just didn't do it for me, I couldn't care less what happened to Stan.

Drama
That simply didn't add up.. It seems very inconsistent to my previous Monkey Island experiences. And I did -not- like angry guybrush. I wonder how this all will unfold in the series finale.

DeSinge
It seems like the Monkey Island series is developping a new stereotype. Just like Ozzie from EMI, DeSinge is a dislikeable ausländer that seeks control of a supernatural (superlative) superpower but gets smashed violently like a bug in the process (grinded to pulp like ozzie/shredded to bits like DeSinge). This isn't necessarily a bad thing. I don't know what to make of it actually.

I'm not trying to complain towards TellTale with this post! In fact, they've certainly provided several truely epic and memorable Monkey Island moments throughout the chapters! (voodoo lady tarot, face-off challenge, awesome characters like DeSinge, Morgan, Bugeye and Anemone). Also this chapter had some thrills in store for me :3 The interior of the courtroom and the SCUMM-feel at Club 41 were breathtaking!! I'm also very excited to see what will happen in chapter 5!

I just wanted to share my thoughts on chapter 4 with all you monkey-fans on the forum! I'm really curious to what you're opinions are to the points mentioned above! So please react ^^

Much love to TellTale and fans <3
yoshiwam ~
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  • Miaharpy;218318 said:
    Do I have to point down to the number 1 rule about the Monkey Island series in my signature? XD
    Except gratuitous death scenes, surely?

    Come to think of it, there have been a fair number of deaths over the series, but they tend to be played down a LOT so you barely notice them.
  • Well, let's see.... Rootbeer kills ghosts...... Lechuck's limbs being ripped off.... being able to put even a dog in Guybrush's pants.... and even putting oil on someone's back to make a map?..... I have to say.... Yes.
  • xD The oil/skin/map thing was just weeeeeiiiird.

    And its not really the things that Guybrush carries around so much as the sheer volume of things in his pants by the end of most games. Obviously there's some sort of trans-dimensional portal in there where he keeps all his things.
  • XD but yeah, you shouldn't get too uncomfortable because of deaths... Remember in the first game where you can kill Guybrush? Some people did it on purpose just to see what happens. And on Curse you can actually see Guybrush dead as well. So... death shouldn't be a problem if you want to see both of those things. LOL.
  • Oh it's not the death. I expected Guybrush, from the title, of course. Morgan's was fine from a story-telling point of view. And there was little else that could be done about Desinge, seeing as he's a villain. But an attempt to make it darker by killing off a bunch of characters cheapens the whole experience. Any one would have been fine by itself.
  • VickyL;218328 said:
    Oh it's not the death. I expected Guybrush, from the title, of course. Morgan's was fine from a story-telling point of view. And there was little else that could be done about Desinge, seeing as he's a villain. But an attempt to make it darker by killing off a bunch of characters cheapens the whole experience. Any one would have been fine by itself.
    Lets see.... Morgan's death causes character development for Guybrush.... Guybrush's death causes everyone to wonder what will happen in the next chapter..... De Singe's death..... Probably because he is in the way of the plot for the future :D LOL

    If the parrot counts too..... We had no idea he will appear again in the 2nd game and thought we got rid of it until end of chapter, 3rd chapter we thought we lost it, 4th chapter it appears only to be gone again... Huh.. That's kinda funny when you think about it.
  • I missed the parrot in this chapter. Darn.
    Best non-sentient character by far.
  • I've got the feeling things are moving slightly off topic...
    The darkness of killing people has been well known throughout the monkey island adventures, like the two pirates that fish LeChuck's boots out of the water and get slaughtered to (un)death, the main issue about the drama is Guybrush feelings being hurt (not as in a little pout-on-the-face, but genuinely hurt) and Elaine getting all emotional at the end. I don't think the writers did a lowsy job, en contraire! (I think the way LeChuck returned the "unholy -this-" was brütal!!) I just think Monkey Island isn't the right setting for those dramatic themes. I prefer solving puzzles whilst laughing off my fundament.
  • yoshiwam;218338 said:
    I've got the feeling things are moving slightly off topic...
    The darkness of killing people has been well known throughout the monkey island adventures, like the two pirates that fish LeChuck's boots out of the water and get slaughtered to (un)death, the main issue about the drama is Guybrush feelings being hurt (not as in a little pout-on-the-face, but genuinely hurt) and Elaine getting all emotional at the end. I don't think the writers did a lowsy job, en contraire! (I think the way LeChuck returned is "unholy -this-" was brütal!!) I just think Monkey Island isn't the right setting for those dramatic themes. I prefer solving puzzles whilst laughing off my fundament.
    true... But when you think it, there was this one part in Revenge that wasn't funny when Guybrush was talking to Lechuck (after Lechuck's limbs been ripped off). I think Telltale was just adding more of an actual story. Still keeping humor in it, but making it emotional too. You shouldn't get upset at the game just because of what you just played in the latest chapter.
  • Miaharpy" said:
    true... But when you think it, there was this one part in Revenge that wasn't funny when Guybrush was talking to Lechuck (after Lechuck's limbs been ripped off).
    The end of Revenge wasn't funny or cool in any way indeed, loads of people agree to that, CMI totally made amends for that too and resumed the trusted monkey island atmosphere. But you know that the end of MI2 is off, so you caught my drift.
    Miaharpy" said:
    I think Telltale was just adding more of an actual story. Still keeping humor in it, but making it emotional too.
    that's what the discussion is all about ^^;;
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