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Poker night 2 cheats outrageously

posted by CrazyGoNuts on - last edited - Viewed by 29K users
The odds against what the computer is getting is so astronomical I can only assume it is cheating. I lose every showdown no matter what the odds are - as an example, I went up against one of the computers with a hand that had the same high card and a higher low card, such as

Ace - king

and the computer had

ace - 2

and then on the flop there were two 2's. This happened literally 3 times in a row (not aces and twos every time, but we both had the same high card and I had a better low). Then the very next hand one of the cpus went blind all in before the flop and got a royal flush. I have played poker for many years and I've never seen anyone get a royal flush before, getting it blind is ridiculous. I played one tournament where I lost 9 showdowns in a row where my "chances" were over 75% before the flop.

Why would anyone ever want to play a poker game that cheats? What is wrong with you, telltale?
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  • I hope the creator of the game or the people programming it see this comment because I would like what I'm about to say to be heard by them. This is game is SOOOOOO cheap. I have won hundreds of dollars in online poker for real money. Won tournaments, cash games, sit and go's. You name it. I can't win a single tournament in this game every since the bounty tourney's began. Its complete sh*t. Also, the betting patterns suck. AI are betting more then 3 times the big blind constantly. Raising at terrible times. It just sucks.

  • In reply to puzzlebox

    Hi Myzith, it sounds like you might be playing Omaha style. link

    I created an account just so I could say a huge THANK YOU to puzzlebox for his post - I was beyond frustrated with the game because the rules for Omaha aren't explained in-game, so I was assuming normal poker rules. Now that I know how it really works I've managed to go from $220,000 in the hole to $180,000 on the positive side. Thanks!

  • I thought I would just come here to say that I just saw the AI characters pull 2 straights and a flush in the showdown....and that it did not surprise me that much after having played this game for a while and having seen AI do some amazing stuff. I'll believe that the cards are random when I see a monkey getting launched with a catapult by blindfolded men and landing safely on the moon.

    Folks, if you are going to add an increasing difficulty level then just say so or make it an option rather than mandatory coding.

  • I'm playing Poker Nights 2 for the last few days and, after losing many times in the showdown, I found this discussion while searching the web for any possible bug in this game. Like many others here, I play poker as a hobby and I've never seen such lucky players in my whole poker experience. Even playing against AI.

    The AI in this game don't cheat. GlaDOS don't help AI players. This isn't even necessary.

    My guess is that the game logics isn't based on pure statistic, but on stack sizes, pot sizes and player behavior. There is no odds or probability, but an algorithm based on the whole situation, where it clearly tends to favor AI players.

    Every single time that I'm heads-to-heads agains't Brock he starts to aggressively bet when I'm the big blind and just check. He calls any bet I make and very often bet using the '3 times the bing blind' tactic, out of nowhere. I see my stack saying goodbye every time I try to confront him. My cards just seem useless, because he always do this and always win. Sometimes he loses around 1/3 of his pot, but it feels like its just to "cheer me up". He easily get it back in the next 2 ou 3 hands.

    I've turned off the autoupdate feature and I'm planning to record my gameplay and put on YouTube. Maybe I'll try to use reverse engineering to identify how the algorithm behave in certain situations, like going all in with A-K suited and loses every time to a flush or a miracle card on the river.

    BTW, if someone here, after playing PN2, started to think that is kinda trivial to lose to a flush in the showdown, the probability of being dealt a flush is 0.196%. A straight flush? 0.0015%. Do the math...

  • In reply to Panzer89

    Twice in a row on a showdown with Sam I was totally gypped. link

    Very next hand. I pull pocket 9s, and bet big again to get Sam on the run. He goes all in and has trash; 6 and 4. The flop is Q, K, K. Very interesting, but I still win...right? The turn is a 6, but that shouldn't matter. Once again the river comes and ruins my day again with another Q.

    Wait, you had 99, and Sam has 64. The board is QKK6Q?

    You should have won that pot. Your best 5 card hand is KKQQ9, Sam's best 5-card hand is KKQQ6.

    Here's the thing: I don't think Poker Night cheats, I just think that the poker algorithm is just badly coded, so that it can't properly evaluate hands. Sometimes it awards split pots to one player, or simply doesn't know what it has - in PN1, it once gave the Heavy an ace-high flush when he really had the steel wheel (a five-high straight flush).

    I know it's been out a while, but you need to use a different method of ranking poker hands for PN3 - there are some open source libraries you could use, perhaps? And there should be a way to keep track of what dialogue was most recently played and weigh that dialogue to appear less often. If Apple can do it with playlists, you guys can do it with Claptrap stuttering every three minutes.

  • Old game but I just wanted to add my frustration. I'll often go all-in with top pair, and more times than not, they insta-call with absolutely nothing (no pair, draw, and sometimes not even a single over card to the board), yet one of them seem to always suck out. I expect that shit from real life players on the internet, but not from friggin' NPCs! This game is somehow rigged!

  • I agree. The game does cheat.

  • In reply to Myzith

    So im growing tired of the game cheating on me... Whenever I actually have good cards lets say I have 3 tens and 2 Q's so i bet big but lose against a pair of J's. link

    *it does help to know poker. in any poker game there a chance for a "bad beat" or a "suckout" draw by opposing players. i've had hands
    iike you describe turn in my favor sometimes and against me sometimes. for me both the fun and the skill are in "reading" the other players..ash is especially predictable if you watch him and carry over info from earlier hands. Brock can be predicable though less so than ash. i seldom bet against sam unless i'm packing a big hand, but he can be scared off by a big bet. and claptrap is harder to read but can be very easy to beat. i stand at a million bucks ahead (for which you get a trophy!) and have all the bounties. for my money poker night 2 is a helluva lot of fun. *

  • Can you use Inventory Tokens for anything besides buying drinks?

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    In reply to 68telecaster

    Can you use Inventory Tokens for anything besides buying drinks? link

    You can use your tokens to buy new table, chip, and deck designs.

    If you have three designs of the same kind, the Inventory will become themed around that franchise (for instance, having a Portal deck, table, and chip design will theme the Inventory to look like the Aperture Science lab). Doing so will also unlock new conversations that aren't discussed otherwise (this is one of the best parts of the game, as some of the longest and funniest conversations come from when you theme The Inventory to look like the franchises from each of the characters).

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