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what if the roles were reversed

Please don't kill me when i say this but ...... what if Clementine got bit instead Lee ?
Lee wakes up in the morning and hears Clem screaming and he goes outside and sees her getting kidnapped by Campman near the trash cans , Lee grabs Campman and kills him but then the walker near the trash cans appears and attacks Clem , Lee kills it but than he looks at Clem with horror because there is a bite mark on Clem's arm .
Kenny , Ben ( if you save him ) , Omid and Christa show up and you have to decide if you show everybody her bite or not , after that Lee decides to find Vernon because he thinks he might have something to help Clementine and of course see if everybody comes along and when they arrive at the morgue Clem faints and Lee is stressed because he doesn't want her to become a walker and so there is the decision cut her arm off or not .
When they arrive they see that the boat got stolen by Vernon and when the walkers attack they get in the attic and Clementine tells Lee that before she dies she wants to search for her parents , Lee tells her that she isn't going to die but wants to find her parents .
Of course Ben still dies but Kenny doesn't die for example if you shot Duck and not let Kenny do it than he shoots Ben because he doesn't want him to suffer of being eaten and he escapes with Lee and he tells Lee that when the time comes he wants to do the job for Lee because he owns Lee for shooting his son for him but than Lee punches him because he says that Clementine isn't going to die because it is a scratch but than he looks at Clem and she looks weaker . Or if you let Kenny shot his son than he will die with Ben and if you don't save Ben when Lee accidently drops the walkie-talkie he wants to get it but Clem tells him that she doesn't need it anymore because she is going to die .
When they reach the Marsh House , Lee , Clem and Kenny get separated from Omid and Christa and when they go inside they can't find her parents and Lee sees Clementine coughing up blood and Kenny tells him that it's time and Lee unfortunately has to accept it , when a walker shows up it doesn't attack Clem because she smells like a walker and Lee covers himself and Kenny in blood and when they get out Clem sees her dead parents and faints and Lee drags her in the jewelry store with Kenny .
Clementine is near death and Lee begins to cry because he is losing the girl who treated her like his own daughter but Clem tells him to not cry because she is going to be with her family again and Lee has a decision to make : shoot her , leave her to die or have Kenny to shot her . Of Course Kenny tells Lee that he is going to put her out of her misery like Lee did for Duck and Clementine dies and both Lee and Kenny manage to escape and get to country side and Lee is devastated and than they see the two strangers on the hill and the game ends .
So yeah this is pretty much the same scenario but instead of Lee being bitten it is Clementine and also changing Kenny's fate . yeah this would of been really sad for Lee and Clem and it would show everybody that no one is safe .
So how would you guys feel if Clem got bit instead of Lee ?
And what are the options that you guys would choose if this happened ?
Showing Clementine's bite or not
Cutting her arm or not
Shoot her , leave her or let Kenny shoot her

Comments

  • edited June 2013
    I'd probably show everyone Clem's bite, since I showed my own. That, plus when Duck's bite was discovered Kenny and Kat told me. I don't know if I'd be able to cut Clem's arm off, but I might even though I kept Lee's arm. Anything to save her. The last one is equally as tough. I'd like to put Clem out of her misery myself, but I could barely pull the trigger when it was Duck, and I had only liked him since the Batman and Robin thing an hour earlier. Since I did, eventually, shoot Duck, I really like the way that Kenny would be doing for me what I did for him in Episode 3. We were bros, and having him take that burden for me, like I did for him, would be a real bro moment.
  • edited June 2013
    I tell you, whole neighbourhood would know how I feel, because I would scream NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (... x25) OOOOOO just that loud and long. It'd be a reason to go and get drunk.

    Showing the bite?
    No, who knows if some of the others jump to crazy conclusions, or take "precautions."

    Cutting off the arm?
    Yes, with a sick feeling in my stomatch, but still... yes, because there's nothing to lose... is there?

    And in her last few moments I'd shoot her. I'd appreciate Kenny asking, but it isn't him who should do it, it is I who failed to protect her, so it shall be my duty to finish what I screwed up, at least that's how I see it. Leaving her to die is not an option for me.
  • edited June 2013
    If the roles were reversed, I would let Clem eat me and I would let her eat everyone else too, Kenny, Carley, Sean...everyone. I would probably even go look for that cop that tried to take me to prison, he needs to get some of this as well(I would be too distraught for anything else...)
  • edited June 2013
    Dude... that would have made an even more emotional, sad, crazy episode. I don't know if I'd even be on these forums if that happened, I'd be seriously messed up...

    I'd show the bite definitely, and I'd cut the arm off immediately. I'd hate to put her in such pain, but surely is better than the alternative. When she starts to die, I'd shoot her myself. I'd rather rid of the burden on my own, and to say goodbye to her the right way, bravely and without assistance. I might cry, I might be little shaky, but I'd kill her myself.

    If there is one thing I'd love about this alternative, is that Lee and KENNY are alive :D Although... that'd just give leeway for worse endings next season. God dammit, man! This is terrible just to think about!
  • edited June 2013
    Too messed up to even think about
  • edited June 2013
    Well, for starters this forums would be a dead zone of hate and Telltale would have been burned down by someone, and this would go down as the saddest moment of that year and of gaming ever.
  • edited July 2013
    Now i added a poll . For those who don't know about this thread , read it and then vote .
  • edited July 2013
    Honesty, Drastic measures and Mercy Killing
    I actually left Lee when Lee was bitten but I don't think Lee could ever get over Clem at all and wouldn't be able to allow her to turn...
  • edited July 2013
    Also the credits scene instead of the song " Take Us Back " it would show Lee and Kenny ( or Lee himself if you let Kenny shot Duck and he dies with Ben ) escaping Savannah and while they are escaping Lee is crying and he is having flashbacks of his moments with Clementine like their first encounter , their sweet moments in the drugstore , him giving her food , pushing her on the swing , teaching her how to use a gun , and the flashbacks would end up with Lee and Clementine in the RV with Lee saying " I'm glad i have you " and Clem " Me too " .
  • edited July 2013
    Where's the "Let Clementine choose" option?
  • edited July 2013
    CaveRave wrote: »
    Where's the "Let Clementine choose" option?

    I think Clem would be too weak to think what would be best for her , but i think she would want lee to shoot her so than she won't suffer as a walker and hurt other people and she can be with her parents , Sandra , Duck , Ben , Katjaa , the group etc in Heaven .
  • edited July 2013
    I think Clem would be too weak to think what would be best for her , but i think she would want lee to shoot her so than she won't suffer as a walker and hurt other people and she can be with her parents , Sandra , Duck , Ben , Katjaa , the group etc in Heaven .
    Being nice and caring to Clementine throughout the season has her choose to not shoot Lee.

    I'm not sure if she'd want Lee to kill again.
  • edited July 2013
    07JonesJ wrote: »
    Being nice and caring to Clementine throughout the season has her choose to not shoot Lee.

    I'm not sure if she'd want Lee to kill again.

    Yeah but i don't think Lee would want Clem to become a walker and suffer , and also you can let Kenny shoot her if you helped him with Duck .
  • edited July 2013
    Well, for starters this forums would be a deadite zone of hate and Telltale would have been burned down by someone and this would go down as the saddest moment of that year and of gaming ever.

    and we wouldn't have gotten 400 days infact we wouldn't even get season 2... cos ttg wouldn't have won as many awards.. they would've been boo'd on the stage and would of probably been put in witsec.

    changed identity and moved out of the usa...

    by arnold...
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah but i don't think Lee would want Clem to become a walker and suffer , and also you can let Kenny shoot her if you helped him with Duck .
    Yeah, I don't either.

    I'm just saying there's really no way to know what Clem would want. I guess it would change depending on your relationship with her.
  • edited July 2013
    I'd do exactly what I did with Lee, show the bite then cut her arm off then shoot her. I'd probably try and knock her out before cutting her arm off to reduce pain.

    However this is just what I would do, in that situation I would ask for her choice first like whether she wants to get shot. However I would try and persuade her to show the bite to the rest of the group. Maybe if she was already unconscious during the bite I would just cut her arm off like the group was going to do to Lee until he woke up.
  • edited July 2013
    I don't think id be able to shoot Clem, or cut off that little arm :(
  • edited July 2013
    I would show the bite, try to cut of the arm, but I would like to add I hope someone I know do it for me, and at the end I think I would do it myself, even thought I could barely shoot Duck, damn it who ever thought of this thread is evil man, I already get tears just thinking about if this is how the game would have ended.
  • edited July 2013
    I would feel bad doing it but like Chuck said, they aren't kids anymore, just people.
  • edited July 2013
    Plus one for a Chuck line, and I agree I really hope it never comes to that, I mean it is the Walking Dead but please, the gaming world will riot for days if she dies, and this forum will be ground zero.
  • edited July 2013
    Where's the option to kill my self after I mercy kill Clem? :(
  • edited July 2013
    Well I can see that being a choice, but if Kenny is there he stops you, because you are his bro.
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah you're right Bio, Kenny would stop me, make me see sense. He'll tell me not to give up and that we could work it out together. He'd also drop a lot of F bombs here and there. At least Lee and Kenny would be together as bro's again.
  • edited July 2013
    Well it's a good thing that Kirkman wasn't in charge of season 1 because if he was ...... all i said would of actually happened in episode 4 and 5 . :(
  • edited July 2013
    It would have happened if Kirkmen have more pull then he did, which shows that Telltale has some Humanity, however little it is since Clementine is still breathing for now.
  • edited July 2013
    I actually thought of the dialogue for the epilogue :
    Lee and Kenny arrive at the country side and both sit on the log
    Kenny: It looks we made it just okay . No sight of Omid and Christa , God i hope they are ok . So how are you feeling Lee ? Lee ?
    Lee sees the shells on the ground and decides to pick them up .
    Kenny: Don't you fucking dare !
    Lee loads the the gun but Kenny grabs his hand .
    Lee: Kenny ...... i......
    Kenny: DON'T YOU FUCKING DO IT !
    Lee: Kenny ...... I can't live in this world without her .
    Kenny: Your doing the same mistake Katjaa did Lee ! You have to survive Lee ! Survive for her !
    Lee: HOW CAN I CONTINUE TO SURVIVE WHEN I FAILED EVERYBODY !
    Kenny: Lee ......
    Lee: I'm sorry Kenny ..... I failed everybody . I failed Shawn , Doug , Mark , Larry , Lilly , Carley , your family , Chuck , Ben ...... and ..... Clem .
    Kenny : Lee , Clem wouldn't want you to give up .
    Lee: It's my fault . It's my fault she is dead .
    Kenny: No Lee , it's not your fault . This new world took our families , our friends , our loved ones , everybody . We both have to survive for Katjaa , Duck and Clem and for the group .
    Lee : Thanks Kenny .
    Than they notice the strangers on the hill .
    Lee: Shit ! Are those Omid and Christa ?
    Kenny: I don't know man . What if they are not Omid and Christa , what if they are walkers or bandits or some other crazy bastards .
    Then the two strangers stop and wave at them .
    Lee: Well .... We are going to find out .
    Than the scene cuts to black .
  • edited July 2013
    Somehow I can see that working well, still happy they did not go that way but then Lee would be alive, so I guess I wish they both could have made it.
  • edited July 2013
    I actually thought of the dialogue for the epilogue :
    Lee and Kenny arrive at the country side and both sit on the log
    Kenny: It looks we made it just okay . No sight of Omid and Christa , God i hope they are ok . So how are you feeling Lee ? Lee ?
    Lee sees the shells on the ground and decides to pick them up .
    Kenny: Don't you fucking dare !
    Lee loads the the gun but Kenny grabs his hand .
    Lee: Kenny ...... i......
    Kenny: DON'T YOU FUCKING DO IT !
    Lee: Kenny ...... I can't live in this world without her .
    Kenny: Your doing the same mistake Katjaa did Lee ! You have to survive Lee ! Survive for her !
    Lee: HOW CAN I CONTINUE TO SURVIVE WHEN I FAILED EVERYBODY !
    Kenny: Lee ......
    Lee: I'm sorry Kenny ..... I failed everybody . I failed Shawn , Doug , Mark , Larry , Lilly , Carley , your family , Chuck , Ben ...... and ..... Clem .
    Kenny : Lee , Clem wouldn't want you to give up .
    Lee: It's my fault . It's my fault she is dead .
    Kenny: No Lee , it's not your fault . This new world took our families , our friends , our loved ones , everybody . We both have to survive for Katjaa , Duck and Clem and for the group .
    Lee : Thanks Kenny .
    Than they notice the strangers on the hill .
    Lee: Shit ! Are those Omid and Christa ?
    Kenny: I don't know man . What if they are not Omid and Christa , what if they are walkers or bandits or some other crazy bastards .
    Then the two strangers stop and wave at them .
    Lee: Well .... We are going to find out .
    Than the scene cuts to black .

    I wish that could have happened with Lee and Kenny. Less of the Clem dying though don't take what I said the wrong way I'm not wishing Clem is dead, she is the best video game child I ever saw.
  • edited July 2013
    I believe no child has been better then Clementine, some have tried and a few came close but the bar is set way to high for anyone to beat it.
  • edited July 2013
    I almost thought everyone was going to die, honestly. I had enough of an emotional breakdown with Lee's death, and Clementine losing not only her parents, but her adoptive father as well...ALL IN THE SAME DAMN EPISODE.

    I don't know what I'd do if it was Clem instead. Doesn't fit the narrative as well, but it would still be pretty sad. I don't even want to decide, or vote. That would just be too painful to decide something like that if it was Clem. I mean I had enough trouble with Duck, AND the zombie kid.

    Yeesh.
  • edited July 2013
    I thought they all would be dead by the end, and I am happy they spared at least one, could be more but at the moment it's only one.
  • edited July 2013
    Why would he do that, I still to this day do not see Kenny committing suicide in the Ben part, so why would he do it at a even worse part?
  • edited July 2013
    I'd show the bite, cut the arm, and if she's still infected (I know everyone is infected, but you know what I mean), if I was Lee, I'd stay by her side all the time and shoot her, then I'd shoot myself.
    I actually thought of the dialogue for the epilogue :
    Lee and Kenny arrive at the country side and both sit on the log
    Kenny: It looks we made it just okay . No sight of Omid and Christa , God i hope they are ok . So how are you feeling Lee ? Lee ?
    Lee sees the shells on the ground and decides to pick them up .
    Kenny: Don't you fucking dare !
    Lee loads the the gun but Kenny grabs his hand .
    Lee: Kenny ...... i......
    Kenny: DON'T YOU FUCKING DO IT !
    Lee: Kenny ...... I can't live in this world without her .
    Kenny: Your doing the same mistake Katjaa did Lee ! You have to survive Lee ! Survive for her !
    Lee: HOW CAN I CONTINUE TO SURVIVE WHEN I FAILED EVERYBODY !
    Kenny: Lee ......
    Lee: I'm sorry Kenny ..... I failed everybody . I failed Shawn , Doug , Mark , Larry , Lilly , Carley , your family , Chuck , Ben ...... and ..... Clem .
    Kenny : Lee , Clem wouldn't want you to give up .
    Lee: It's my fault . It's my fault she is dead .
    Kenny: No Lee , it's not your fault . This new world took our families , our friends , our loved ones , everybody . We both have to survive for Katjaa , Duck and Clem and for the group .
    Lee : Thanks Kenny .
    Than they notice the strangers on the hill .
    Lee: Shit ! Are those Omid and Christa ?
    Kenny: I don't know man . What if they are not Omid and Christa , what if they are walkers or bandits or some other crazy bastards .
    Then the two strangers stop and wave at them .
    Lee: Well .... We are going to find out .
    Than the scene cuts to black .

    I'd totally love that to happen (except Clem dying). Kenny was my bro and I'm gonna miss him as much as Lee. Lee, Clem and Kenny are my three favorite characters ever.
  • edited July 2013
    Well then we can only hope that two of them are alive, and by two I mean Clem and Kenny.
  • edited July 2013
    Please don't kill me when i say this but ...... what if Clementine got bit instead Lee ?
    Lee wakes up in the morning and hears Clem screaming and he goes outside and sees her getting kidnapped by Campman near the trash cans , Lee grabs Campman and kills him but then the walker near the trash cans appears and attacks Clem , Lee kills it but than he looks at Clem with horror because there is a bite mark on Clem's arm .
    Kenny , Ben ( if you save him ) , Omid and Christa show up and you have to decide if you show everybody her bite or not , after that Lee decides to find Vernon because he thinks he might have something to help Clementine and of course see if everybody comes along and when they arrive at the morgue Clem faints and Lee is stressed because he doesn't want her to become a walker and so there is the decision cut her arm off or not .
    When they arrive they see that the boat got stolen by Vernon and when the walkers attack they get in the attic and Clementine tells Lee that before she dies she wants to search for her parents , Lee tells her that she isn't going to die but wants to find her parents .
    Of course Ben still dies but Kenny doesn't die for example if you shot Duck and not let Kenny do it than he shoots Ben because he doesn't want him to suffer of being eaten and he escapes with Lee and he tells Lee that when the time comes he wants to do the job for Lee because he owns Lee for shooting his son for him but than Lee punches him because he says that Clementine isn't going to die because it is a scratch but than he looks at Clem and she looks weaker . Or if you let Kenny shot his son than he will die with Ben and if you don't save Ben when Lee accidently drops the walkie-talkie he wants to get it but Clem tells him that she doesn't need it anymore because she is going to die .
    When they reach the Marsh House , Lee , Clem and Kenny get separated from Omid and Christa and when they go inside they can't find her parents and Lee sees Clementine coughing up blood and Kenny tells him that it's time and Lee unfortunately has to accept it , when a walker shows up it doesn't attack Clem because she smells like a walker and Lee covers himself and Kenny in blood and when they get out Clem sees her dead parents and faints and Lee drags her in the jewelry store with Kenny .
    Clementine is near death and Lee begins to cry because he is losing the girl who treated her like his own daughter but Clem tells him to not cry because she is going to be with her family again and Lee has a decision to make : shoot her , leave her to die or have Kenny to shot her . Of Course Kenny tells Lee that he is going to put her out of her misery like Lee did for Duck and Clementine dies and both Lee and Kenny manage to escape and get to country side and Lee is devastated and than they see the two strangers on the hill and the game ends .
    So yeah this is pretty much the same scenario but instead of Lee being bitten it is Clementine and also changing Kenny's fate . yeah this would of been really sad for Lee and Clem and it would show everybody that no one is safe .
    So how would you guys feel if Clem got bit instead of Lee ?
    And what are the options that you guys would choose if this happened ?
    Showing Clementine's bite or not
    Cutting her arm or not
    Shoot her , leave her or let Kenny shoot her

    I like this because of the change in Kenny's fate. But after seeing Clementine die, I think the players will end up "having something in their eyes" for hours, days, weeks, months, years...
  • edited July 2013
    I'd show the bite and shoot Clem. I have no idea what I'd do about her arm though. I can't imagine just sawing that cute, delicate little girl arm as she screams and cries and...:( I'd probably just pass out in the middle of doing it anyway...
  • edited July 2013
    show,not cut off,have kenny shot her beacause we shot duck.
  • edited July 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Dude... that would have made an even more emotional, sad, crazy episode. I don't know if I'd even be on these forums if that happened, I'd be seriously messed up...

    I'd show the bite definitely, and I'd cut the arm off immediately. I'd hate to put her in such pain, but surely is better than the alternative. When she starts to die, I'd shoot her myself. I'd rather rid of the burden on my own, and to say goodbye to her the right way, bravely and without assistance. I might cry, I might be little shaky, but I'd kill her myself.

    If there is one thing I'd love about this alternative, is that Lee and KENNY are alive :D Although... that'd just give leeway for worse endings next season. God dammit, man! This is terrible just to think about!
    I wouldn't have cut her arm off. For one Lee wouldn't of known if doing so would work and two I wouldn't want to put her through the pain. I'd let her die and destroy her brain afterwards like Andrea did for her sister Amy.
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