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TTG political correct! What about women though?

posted by Isterio on - last edited - Viewed by 6.4K users
TTG deserves respect for building an emotional and dramatic story around an Afro American main character. In the gaming industry the PC is usually white and very stereotypical. Good job in presenting a great story with interesting characters of different origins.


Here are my thoughts about the PC in season 2:

- I think I've read somewhere that no character from 400 days will actually be a main character in Season 2. I personally wouldn't mind seeing Sheel as the main character in the second Season. I liked playing her.
- Sure, in the "horror/action/survival" genre there might be more male gamers and they might prefer male characters, but I would like to experience the second season out of the view of a female character. You know, with feelings and stuff.
- I think this would open new interesting topics in the post apocalyptic environment. For example: are women becoming something like a good/posession for groups because of the "rule of the strongest"? Are they seen as valuable because of their ability to get children to repopulate the world? Are they being held as slaves to forfill certain desires?
- Making the player experience such issues with a female PC might be quite intense.
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  • In all honesty i still have my hopes up for some "create your survivor" for season 2 just to give the players some sort of creativity on who they want to play as, but if that doesn't happen i'd say i would want to play as a male character because:

    You don't need to be a female to see this

    - I think this would open new interesting topics in the post apocalyptic environment. For example: are women becoming something like a good/posession for groups because of the "rule of the strongest"? Are they seen as valuable because of their ability to get children to repopulate the world? Are they being held as slaves to forfill certain desires?
  • Isterio;811068 said:
    - Sure, in the "horror/action/survival" genre there might be more male gamers and they might prefer male characters, but I would like to experience the second season out of the view of a female character. You know, with feelings and stuff.
    I don't know, I've been hearing this complaint a lot lately - especially in a slew of articles that have come out about The Last of Us being "just not progressive enough" despite having very strong and important female characters - but I'm just not seeing it.

    Just looking up at the shelve in front of me, I see games as varied as Heavy Rain, Mirror's Edge, Tomb Raider, Beyond Good & Evil, Portal, Perfect Dark, not to mention a slew of games that offer a choice of gender like Dragon Age, Fable and Mass Effect (and can we all agree that FemShep is clearly the better choice there?), all of which offer great and, usually, complex female player characters. I have a much easier time being able to name blockbuster games with female main characters than I do, say, blockbuster films.

    I'm not saying there isn't a huge gulf between the number of games that star men and the number that star women - there is and that sucks. But it's less than in most other media and, most importantly, I think it's an issue with the creators and the executives, not the audience. The audience has shown time and time again that they have no problem playing a female character in a good game.
  • RoboSheriff;811080 said:
    In all honesty i still have my hopes up for some "create your survivor" for season 2 just to give the players some sort of creativity on who they want to play as, but if that doesn't happen i'd say i would want to play as a male character because:

    You don't need to be a female to see this

    - I think this would open new interesting topics in the post apocalyptic environment. For example: are women becoming something like a good/posession for groups because of the "rule of the strongest"? Are they seen as valuable because of their ability to get children to repopulate the world? Are they being held as slaves to forfill certain desires?
    Wouldn't bother me if it was a male of female protagonist really, as long as it was a well written character. Regarding the 'create your survivor' that brings all kinds of issues where you may end up with no name and get referred to as him or her, which can break immersion.

    TTG did a great job in season 1 with male / female characters and they don't really need to pro-discriminate here on the side of females.

    Personally seeing how powerful PC's, and the new consoles are/will be now i'm suprised that games just aren't branching out from the type of games we keep getting fed and becoming more really. At Least TTG are trying which is good.
  • BlankCanvasDJ;811135 said:
    I don't know, I've been hearing this complaint a lot lately - especially in a slew of articles that have come out about The Last of Us being "just not progressive enough" despite having very strong and important female characters - but I'm just not seeing it.
    That is just a ridiculous argument for them to make. It shouldn't matter what color, gender, or sexual orientation a character is. The entire point of the post apocalyptic genre since it was brought back by George Stewart's Earth Abides was to talk about the human condition when it is stripped away of the comforts and failings of civilization.

    I'm tired of hearing people push 2013 political problems into a story. A good post apocalypse story is about what makes humanity what we are. Because post apocalypse stories tear down everything about society, even society norms that a real or perceived. You shouldn't need to make a game built around "the multi culture squad" before someone "approves" it. It SHOULD allow you to feel an emotional connection to the main characters without worrying if they are "like you". That's the entire point of the damn genre!
  • I don't know. I wouldn't mind a female character if this game didn't have roleplaying elements. In regular action/adventure games with a story you can't influence, I never care whether I'm playing as a male or female, but if the game allows me to roleplay, I, being a male myself, always go with male. I find that I can't immerse myself quite as much if trying to roleplay a female. So yeah, may be coming across as not progressive here, but I'd rather the next protagonist was male.
  • Velociraptorius;822653 said:
    I don't know. I wouldn't mind a female character if this game didn't have roleplaying elements. In regular action/adventure games with a story you can't influence, I never care whether I'm playing as a male or female, but if the game allows me to roleplay, I, being a male myself, always go with male. I find that I can't immerse myself quite as much if trying to roleplay a female. So yeah, may be coming across as not progressive here, but I'd rather the next protagonist was male.
    i would prefer a male as well, it's not like Lee being a man was brought up all the time, but it makes a difference to me as to how i would play them, like if i was a woman should i try and act like a woman would act or should i just play it as a man in a womans body????

    there is a reason most heroes in games are 'generic man with stubble' and that is because they are so generic they are basically a blank slate, so they become easy to imprint your own personality on them, but controlling Boobies McGreatass can be distracting (telltale wouldn't make such a character)

    if women would prefer to play as women for similar reasons that is fine, but i don't think i would have connected with Lee as well if he were a woman
  • I highly doubt that Telltale, if they made the main character in season 2 female, would make her as you say Boobies McGreatass, they would be more like Carley.
  • Bioshock Infinite WD;822684 said:
    I highly doubt that Telltale, if they made the main character in season 2 female, would make her as you say Boobies McGreatass, they would be more like Carley.
    yeah, Shel and Bonnie were people first women second (like Lee but as women) Shell could have been a man and i don't think anything but the name would need to change, i think Bonnie was a bit more gender specific but not much, but i didn't play them long enough for my decision making to be altered because i was playing a woman
  • I'm female, but used to playing male protagonists in game. It would be nice to have a female protagonist, but I will say that if there's a female lead, I would prefer the flirts, etc. be kept down to a dull roar, and only with male npcs who aren't weirdos. Ideally, at least some degree of trust should exist between the survivors in a group, and little says, "I'M A CREEPY DOUCHEBAG WHO DOESN'T EVEN SEE YOU AS HUMAN, DO NOT TRUST ME UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!" quite like some asshole who habitually thinks with the wrong head and won't take the hint that you're not interested.
  • I don't mind playing as a male character but when given the choice, I generally choose female because I am female.

    I'm hoping Clem will be the new protagonist. She's the first confirmed character for season 2, already has the fans and why else would she remember everything Lee told her? Got to be for a reason. ;) Also hoping the 400 days survivors (plus Omid + Crista) will make up her group.
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