Issues with nudity (episode 2)

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  • "You would have thought it was full fledged porn scene 20 mins long."

    Oh. I. Wish.

    (To contradict an earlier comment.)

    CiscoKidd81 posted: »

    You would have thought it was full fledged porn scene 20 mins long with as long as this discussion has become. Can't we just let the game be the game and criticize or praise it when it's fully out?

  • Should a kid be asking that? :)

    CiscoKidd81 posted: »

    Really? Where do I have to go to get that drink?

  • I cant wait to see how people will flip out when we actually get to that scene lol

  • I think you are taking some scenes from episode two: smoke and mirrors, a little too seriously. I mean you make it sound like theres going to be needless nudity on every episode?? This sint The PlayBoy Mansion game or Leisure Suite Larry lol

  • Idk why you decided to start this topic. Every comment you make gets a thumbs down.

  • It's impossible for Bigby to be the killer. Everyone is hating on Bigby though would explain the title. You'll probably have less money if you didn't give Faith money. The answer is in the comics.

  • Even if there was nudity on every episode, what is the problem?

    I think you are taking some scenes from episode two: smoke and mirrors, a little too seriously. I mean you make it sound like theres going to be needless nudity on every episode?? This sint The PlayBoy Mansion game or Leisure Suite Larry lol

  • Not familiar with comics, however my aproach to title is two side: 1) Bigby is the wolf, so it is literal. And everyone hates him, and have some dark past and urgues. But does not mean is baaad. 2) There is the real wolf. The bad guy, who maybe hides in furr of lamb (or donkey). The plot is about hiden wolf among more or less peacefull comunity. Or... everyone is a wolf (woof) in some matter.

    LukaszB posted: »

    It's impossible for Bigby to be the killer. Everyone is hating on Bigby though would explain the title. You'll probably have less money if you didn't give Faith money. The answer is in the comics.

  • Not the nipples! NOOOOO! Lol jk

  • And based on episode 1 it is 1. I was talking about the answer to money being in the comics which I ain't spoiling.

    evilcat posted: »

    Not familiar with comics, however my aproach to title is two side: 1) Bigby is the wolf, so it is literal. And everyone hates him, a

  • edited October 2013

    Not to mention, an assistant mayor's head.

  • edited October 2013

    There is no such thing like needless nudity. Each scene has purpose at least to pleased audience. ;-P

    I think you are taking some scenes from episode two: smoke and mirrors, a little too seriously. I mean you make it sound like theres going to be needless nudity on every episode?? This sint The PlayBoy Mansion game or Leisure Suite Larry lol

  • The greatest invention ever created is the ON/OFF switch. Use it.
    If you don't like nudity, skip it or don't play.

  • There are already blood and great violence in the game. Putting nudity in a game is nothing compared to something like that.

    Are people still in the stone-age where they think that showing nudity in games is immature, pointless, or stupid.
    I just think it adds more realism in the game world.

  • Agreed.
    Sometimes it's the unrealistic avoidance of nudity that is immature and stupid.

    sunbreaker7 posted: »

    There are already blood and great violence in the game. Putting nudity in a game is nothing compared to something like that. Are

  • Portraying parts of reality via a fictional universe, with a large body of work to support the characters and how they act within it, seems like it would include things we may not be comfortable with. Ripping of an arm is pretty disturbing. Nudity is mildly annoying, but has it's place in the context, for sure. Which is exactly what a ton of people have already said. Tastefully constructing a fucked up reality isn't gonna always please everyone, but the story might be stronger because of those stylistic decisions. Most people are on the same page it seems. Side note, hookers and prostitutes are an INNATELY sexist topic/profession, and they are completely being used for all the bad/wrong reasons. Oldest profession, sigh. No shock there, but still a reality that doesn't get any prettier in the real world.

  • There actually is female characters in GTA several actually. I think telltale knows what they are doing, I think you are also picking on GTA here a bit though parts of it may not send the best message to females. You're leaving out the 80% of females in the game who aren't living in the strip club.

    Neoncloudff posted: »

    My main problem with it is that it's exploiting women purely for their sexuality. There aren't any major female roles in GTA V, whi

  • there is nothing wrong with nudity, in fact, the trailer alone was ground breaking as far as maturity goes.

  • I put myself to a standard to not buy games with nudity, mostly for ethical/moral purposes.

    CiscoKidd81 posted: »

    Why are you not allowed to buy games with nudity in them?

  • I feel it's freedom of expression. Reality, is boring. That is why we watch TV or play video games for entertainment. The proper labels are on there, the problem if they change the situation to benefit people anti nudity. It will be closing on the door for people who don't mind or want that content. It's not even a real person just pixels on a screen.

    I feel even with slight nudity they are making their games, more bold, more direct and the payout will be a ton of customers buying it. I feel majority either doesn't mind or wants it, if you edit this out, where does it startd next cussing, pretty soon we won't have anything left. Simply make sure no small children are in the room before you play.

  • Have you read up on Snow White's past? Since TT want to keep faithful to the Fables Universe/canon, I can't see how they'd justify her letting her guard down, even to Bigby, someone whom she is becoming, gradually, to trust. Their romance in the comics is a long way off at this point.

    Having said that, if I had to direct an act of passion in one of the episodes, using the choice interface and/or quick time interface, I would not be complaining. It's just not a very Telltale-y thing to do.

    CiscoKidd81 posted: »

    This is just like the guys who bitch at swearing over in the forum for TWD game. I can't be the only player who wishes that Bigby ha

  • As for your first point, I believe TeaTrumpets' comment (two above yours) covers that. Second point: TT has been known to change things toward the end of a season because of customer input on the forums, so there is something at stake here, which is why it's so important for everyone to air their views here, as that's what a forum is for.

    CiscoKidd81 posted: »

    You would have thought it was full fledged porn scene 20 mins long with as long as this discussion has become. Can't we just let the game be the game and criticize or praise it when it's fully out?

  • The problem would be that's not Telltale's style. They write things in because it fits, not to be gratuitous. That's why I'm going to stand by their decision to put the option in to rip Grendel's arm off and rub the gory detail in our faces. It fitted because that happened to Grendel in that Beowulf poem. I was repulsed/scarred and wouldn't have done it if it didn't unlock something but I think it's absolutely right to stay.

    Back to the context, I seriously doubt Telltale could find the excuses needed to justify nudity in every remaining episode. The seniors would see it as a huge waste of time and resources. And they, in my opinion, however much I appreciate a lady's curves, would be right.

    Deventh posted: »

    Even if there was nudity on every episode, what is the problem?

  • That could be in the settings:

    Gore slider
    Profanity slider
    Nudity slider

    All sliders would range from clean to normal/expected for the Fables Universe.

    Sadly, the programming is the easy bit. The artwork and directing (for gore and nudity) are what will make it a potentially financially unnecessary decision.

    Marx7 posted: »

    The greatest invention ever created is the ON/OFF switch. Use it. If you don't like nudity, skip it or don't play.

  • edited November 2013

    Showing a strip club with no boobs is like showing a pub with no booze. It shows pussy-footing around. People who buy this game will be expecting it to stay true to the Fables Universe, which from what I gather does not hold back when such themes fit into the story.

    Summing up, I'd feel cheated if there weren't partially nude people walking around in/behind a strip club in a game, simply due to the hypocrisy of having a fire but censoring the smoke.

  • edited November 2013

    Ha. I can see the establishment sign now.

    Strip Club
    Open 24 / 7
    Live fully clothes dancers
    Children welcomed

    tbm1986 posted: »

    Showing a strip club with no boobs is like showing a pub with no booze. It shows pussy-footing around. People who buy this game will

  • THE majority claims this game is great. Besides would naked boobs really destroy our gaming experience. It's just pixels. their people like Miley who dry hump people on stage sexually. Besides staying true would mean they wouldn't cuss much and it'd be less fun experience. I mean its boobs..enjoy

    tbm1986 posted: »

    Showing a strip club with no boobs is like showing a pub with no booze. It shows pussy-footing around. People who buy this game will

  • edited November 2013

    There's always someone who feels offended. For those folks there's a simple guideline: Steer clear of it. Give it a wide berth.

    This should cover all bases.

    Psst! Why's there an automatic embedding feature?

  • edited November 2013

    Thats really cool. What about not buying it yourself, but letting others to buy what they like? Is that ok for You?

    I put myself to a standard to not buy games with nudity, mostly for ethical/moral purposes.

  • Nah Alt text

    evilcat posted: »

    Thats really cool. What about not buying it yourself, but letting others to buy what they like? Is that ok for You?

  • edited November 2013

    Violence, gore or weapons (even for children) - not a problem. But nipples: they are satanic! Yeah, this is America.

  • edited November 2013

    Lemme get this straight.. So its not the consistent vulgar language, the gory fight scenes, or the tobacco/alcohol use that gives this game a mature rating, It's the one blurry peep you saw of a topless woman in the trailer for EP 2.. Sorry dude that doesn't make too much sense. This IS a mature game anyway, why would you expect anything less? And if you argue that nudity just isn't necessary, then I'll argue that the violence, language, alcohol, and probably a few other things I've left out aren't necessary either.

  • edited November 2013

    lmao, how is nudity immature? It looks like Bigby is going to see a pimp at a strip club, and strippers don't make cash by being fully clothed. The only thing immature is you being so frightened of the female body.

  • If you have issues with nudity, then you should not play mature games and play adventure games like Hello Kitty Island Adventure. This kind of games (rated M) are not for everyone...

  • lol well said.

    lmao, how is nudity immature? It looks like Bigby is going to see a pimp at a strip club, and strippers don't make cash by being fully clothed. The only thing immature is you being so frightened of the female body.

  • If Wolf Among Us has nudity so what?
    Nudity won't take anything away from the game if anything in the case of episode 2 nudity will personify "the dark fantasy world." Or it could go unnoticed just the same.

  • it's funny how this guy is so concerned about female breasts, but doesn't say a word about the decapitated heads.

  • First Comment! ^.^

    My personal opinion is unlike some other games, TWAU tell its tale in a decent way without randomness of just for the sake of showing inappropriate content. Everything so far I have seen FITS in with the story and not there just to be there. Since first meeting the "working girl" then something unforeseen happens to her, why wouldn't the pimp be a suspect? Why wouldn't Bigby go there to investigate? He is the sheriff after all. It's not random and as some have already mentioned...what else to you expect to see at a brothel?

    However, that's not to say I agree with games that use nudity/sexual references or plain out sex, etc. Often times in video games it is done in an indecent manner and is disturbing to me. Not necessarily just the fact of the explicit content but the fact that it has absolutely nothing to do with the story progression or anything. Now that's the kind of random I cannot stand because it serves no purpose and is just pointless the way I see it.

    As I was saying earlier though, TWAU is doing a good job keeping everything so far in perspective and I also appreciate that a lot. They seem very big on atmosphere and do a great job of setting the tone, so it doesn't surprise me at all with some of the mature related content, that and there are the warnings in the M rated description of what it contains before buying it. So no one is getting anything they have not already been forewarned about.

    TWAU = Classy
    Most other games = Trashy

    But that's just my opinion.

  • geez. it's not even real nudity. It's all a drawing.

  • If God had meant for us all to go running around naked, we would have been born that way!

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