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Issues with nudity (episode 2)

posted by Neoncloudff on - last edited by Vainamoinen - Viewed by 53.3K users

Hi Telltale. I loved the first episode of TWAU. It's truly inspiring, exciting, and very original.

I loved everything about it until the second episode trailer, when some female nudity was seen outside an area. I think that nudity is an easy way to earn a mature rating, and I feel like it's unnecessary. The game is dark and smart without being obscene and blatantly immature. That is what I loved about your many series. But having nudity for the sake of nudity seems immature and pointless (much like GTAV or others) to character development or story. Please, will you consider keeping everything clothed? Maybe that content was before a final build (since it's rate mature for only partial nudity)?

I just love this dark fantasy world and I want it, in my mind, to stay as smart and truly entertaining as possible. Thanks for your input everyone, and telltale!

  • It's a "working girl" club, dude, where topless girls are very common. I don't see it as a cry for attention from TT at all, it's just natural. Deal with it. Why are some people making a big deal of it once a nipple is shown?

  • I really do not understand why people get so defensive over someone who just doesn't like the nudity in a game. He says hes not mad about it and thinks it takes away from the experience and tend to agree. It's distracting and irrelevant to the story. And please dont say that there prostitutes so they need to be dressed (or not dressed) like that because Faith was a prostitute and she wasn't running around with no clothes on.

    So everyone calm the ham and stop getting all bitchy because people are fans of nudity. You like boobies I know so go like them without annoying anyone else! Okay? Okay.

    • That girl we saw was at a strip club or whorehouse or whatever it was. Its not the same as Faith's situation. She had no reason to be nude at that moment. She had either finished her business with the Woodsman or hadnt started, which I think was the case since she said he started beating her almost right away. And you cant say its irrelevant without seeing the context. I dont see how it can be that distracting unless you get really distracted by such a sight.

      • So to say but that answer is a cover up in many ways. It is a very distracting sight and you know it. I'm not saying nudity is a bad thing I'm just saying it's not needed here and is completely irrelevant. "Outside whorehouse" SO?! I've walked down the Amstradam Red light district for godssake and I didn't see any topless girls. Now I don't read Fables so maybe thats how they do it in Fabletown but in my opinion its unessecary. I'm a gay guy so the boobs don't do it for me either.

        • It is a very distracting sight and you know it

          Can't speak for KCohere but in my case, no I don't, so speak for yourself.
          Boobs in the distant background of movies and video games used to distract me from the more important rest when I was 13.

          I beat the game 3 times, watched the preview for ep2 every time, and never realized there was a bare breasted female in the background behind the pimp, because I was paying attention to the f-ing pimp ! I had to find about it here.

          Can't believe this is even an issue.

          • I thought I was the only one who didn't notice.

          • Well you may not of foud it distracting but I did. Speak for yourself? Right back at ya! It's an issue because some people find it that way. Just cause you don't doesn't mean it shouldn't be addressed.

            • It's not an "issue" - just because a small minority expected I-don't-know-what from a M rated game it's only their own problem if they disliked it. And they are trying to make it everyone's elses problem too.

              And you know why I'm pleased that in this community posts like these are met with negative feedback? The reason for it is if people were to ignore it and silently watch how you complain about how much you hate it, the way it makes you uncomfortable, there is a possiblity that the company would bend before you and remove it, ripping everyone else of the experience.

              I'm not making this up. The makers of sequel to Hotline Miami 2 now consider altering or deleting the pixelated rape scene in a game where your only objective is to smash people's heads with a bat, because a few people felt "offended". This is how far it can go.

    • Nudity could be important tool to exposing plot, or mood of the scene depending on the scene. You can say it without, but then everything could be converted, there is always someone who dislike something and wish it will be done for him, not for other people. "Violence is bad, the games are too much into violence, and use it as cheap way to marketing. TT should remove violence from game so it will be more immersive, mature, smart, just better game for better people." A single being sometimes need to accept that majority thinks otherwise, and could disagree with him, and expose other point of view, or even bash his statement. If you are right you can always backup your statement, unless it was all made up.

      And OP was wrong, since in his messege was manpulative. Which is ok - how otherwise you argument for you couse. What was done: some wild assumption without context (a screene from trailer); trying to create indentity with naked and inmature... which is soft way to say that if you dont mind nudity you must be inmature (and not smart), which is offensive so people got angry for forcing some false statement about them (or their group); accuising TT of sins of others games, if so far TT does alright then no need to mention it, and such topic in advance could send the messege that the line was crossed, which could result in some future censorship in material which was fine for most; GTA argument was also over the roof, since GTA is strong enought trademark to not need nudity, and its marketing line is gangasta sandbox with tongue in cheak and some arcade driving. Bashing game for not being deep when it do not pretend so is wrong. Finally asking for censorship limits ways of experesion, nudity as a symbol could be important. (for example if characters have intimate time it reflects some affection and trust)

      So OP is not bashed for his beliefs, but for his action, and attempt to bash (for being inmature and not smart) everyone who disagree with him.

  • Who cares about nudity.... I'm more interested to know who is the killer and their motive.

    • I know, right. We are supposed to solve a case, going to a strip club or brothel will be our only lead then so nudity inside a strip club or brothel makes sense and it won't be out of context.

      • Exactly. And if by any chance we stumbled upon Beauty, I will feel bad for not tip her as I spent my money on Faith.

        • I doubt you won't have money. You should know why.

  • Most of us are American (I assume), so breasts by our once Puritan culture are a big thing. But it's not too uncommon for them to appear in European games. That said, I agree that they can detract from the experience and subject at hand.

    Breasts make sense in a strip club yes, but often they don't add anything to the atmosphere besides screaming "THIS IS A STRIP CLUB AND IT HAS BEWBS".

    In the trailer however, she was barley noticeable, the breasts were non-sexualized,and in a combination with our background knowledge of Faith, the seedy pimp and the whole shady setting, the careless toplessness of the woman succeeded in setting the atmosphere.

  • Nudity is natural and nothing to be ashamed of overall. The human body is clothed with clothing because we don't want the elements of nature to destroy it and because of society's rules and regulations on nudity in public. If it wasn't for those facts, we'd all be running around nude if we wanted to.

  • You would have thought it was full fledged porn scene 20 mins long with as long as this discussion has become.

    Can't we just let the game be the game and criticize or praise it when it's fully out?

    • "You would have thought it was full fledged porn scene 20 mins long."

      Oh. I. Wish.

      (To contradict an earlier comment.)

    • As for your first point, I believe TeaTrumpets' comment (two above yours) covers that. Second point: TT has been known to change things toward the end of a season because of customer input on the forums, so there is something at stake here, which is why it's so important for everyone to air their views here, as that's what a forum is for.

  • Nipples are witches' brew ;)

  • I'm actually bothered by the lack of sex/nudity in video games. Not that I'd want that much in this particular game, but--if one excludes visual novels--there is virtually nothing that one might consider "erotica" in the medium (certainly not from any major studios/publishers). Probably that's because men dominate gaming (it may be the case that half of gamers are women, but they are "casuals and randoms", not the core gaming demographic). (The reason I say it's because men dominate gaming is because women are, by far, the largest consumers of erotica in literature.)

    As others posters have pointed out: it's okay to play a "murder simulator" (like GTA 5, COD, etc.), and virtually kill hundreds of thousands of people (many gamers would reach such a "killcount", over the years; I estimate over 100k for myself) but not something that most people do in real life (i.e. sex)? A deeply perverse double standard.

  • I cant wait to see how people will flip out when we actually get to that scene lol

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