What's with all the jerks? *Spoilers*

edited December 2013 in The Walking Dead

There were so many mean people in this episode. The first part with the woman in the public restroom, the guys that attacked Christa and Clem, then the group with that awful chick Rebecca and that total you-know-what Nick. Jeez. I was feeling bad for poor little Clem. For people to treat such a small, cute little girl with such contempt and distrust was ridiculous. I was so mad for Clem. I hope she gets to get some revenge on that Rebecca lady, given that she knows about the baby. I couldn't believe how they forced her into a shed with a dog bite. Dog bites are serious (I've been attacked and they put me on 2 kinds of antibiotics because infection is VERY likely) and she's a child, which makes it more serious. I hope she leaves this group behind soon and finds Tavia's group. Am I the only one who thinks that the world has gotten MUCH colder and crueler since Season 1?

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  • I definitely agree that it's gotten much crueler and colder, but to be fair, it's been nearly two years. Lots of people have seen lots of folks getting killed because they made a choice that wasn't as ruthless as possible.

  • 19 months or so into a zombie apocalypse. 19 months of starvation and backstabbing and scrounging for even the barest means of survival. 19 months of getting bit in the ass hard every time you try to 'do the right thing', while watching your loved ones die in droves around you.

    You bet your ass people are going to get pretty cold.

  • edited December 2013

    They'll redeem them, I'm sure. I also suspect Luke is going to show some darker colours. I have a bad feeling about him... if I know Telltale, he's too nice for it to last.

    Remember, the group seem to warm to Clem a bit when you talk to them post-shed. Nick becomes quite friendly if you're understanding, and apologies several times. Carlos is clearly on the edge, but otherwise seems quite decent. Luke becomes very friendly once the bite is dealt with, Pete remains affable the whole time, the man with the glasses wanted to help Clem all along but it's apparent peer pressure is scaring him.

    The only one who really seems to be a total tool is the pregnant woman, but no doubt they'll find a way to have us warm to her.

  • True and I realize that I'm biased (the entire audience is) because I played the entire first season trying to protect this little girl. I just can't believe the hatred towards Clementine. Children are the future, they need to be protected. I would think that people would be overjoyed to find a child, especially a smart, capable little girl like Clem. I'm sure Telltale is making a point that this isn't the same world, but if there's ever any hope at returning to a semblance of normalcy, people are going to have to look out for the younger generations. They're the only chance that humanity has at continuing. I'm hoping that Tavia's group (from 400 Days) is more welcoming and kind. I seem to recall them mentioning that they had kids in their group.

    I definitely agree that it's gotten much crueler and colder, but to be fair, it's been nearly two years. Lots of people have seen lots of folks getting killed because they made a choice that wasn't as ruthless as possible.

  • I refer you to Chuck's words. "...you're alive." People want to stay that way, and just because Clem is little it doesn't mean they mustn't take precautions when approaching a situation like that. Yeah, I feel for Clem, yet I understand. As for Rebecca, I feel she will be the Larry of episode 3.

  • It's funny you say that because I didn't see that in him, but my husband did. He was watching as I was playing (he's played Season 1 too) and he was like "something's up with that guy". Interesting. When I play through again I'll watch him more critically. Hearing a second person say that has piqued my interest.

    Arbitrator posted: »

    They'll redeem them, I'm sure. I also suspect Luke is going to show some darker colours. I have a bad feeling about him... if I know

  • I feel Tavia's group is led by this Carver... and that can't be good.

    True and I realize that I'm biased (the entire audience is) because I played the entire first season trying to protect this little g

  • Lol. I hope so. Sorry, I know that's terrible to say about a pregnant woman, but she ticked me off. You'd think a woman who's about to give birth would have a bit of a maternal instinct, but she was the nastiest one towards Clementine. I say "good riddance to bad rubbish" if she doesn't make it. ;)

    I refer you to Chuck's words. "...you're alive." People want to stay that way, and just because Clem is little it doesn't mean they

  • Hmm. I didn't even think about that, but it makes sense. I wonder if Carver is a Governor-type, tyrannical character or he may just be a Rick-type character that's just trying to take care of his group. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. By the way, does anyone know when Episode 2 will be out? I think they came out around once a month for the first season.

    I feel Tavia's group is led by this Carver... and that can't be good.

  • She was really bitchy. I tried to get along with Larry because he had a reason to hate Lee. He was a convicted killer and his daughter was in the group, the only family he has left. I wouldn't expect him to be all open arms and reeling in hugs, however Rebecca is just a plain bitch! She hated you from the very moment you met her, even after the bite she is cold as hell to you. What pissed me off the most if Clem is only a little girl! Why the hell would you hate a little girl looking to be protected?!

    Lol. I hope so. Sorry, I know that's terrible to say about a pregnant woman, but she ticked me off. You'd think a woman who's about

  • Amen. I'm with you on that. She really ticked me off. She'll make a horrible mother if she lives through the birth. No human being, let alone a woman, let alone a pregnant woman, a mother, should treat a child in such a way. I really don't like her. I was tempted to mention the baby to her when the option came up, but I opted not to for fear that she would kick me out. I wonder what happens when you bring it up.

    She was really bitchy. I tried to get along with Larry because he had a reason to hate Lee. He was a convicted killer and his daught

  • edited December 2013

    Scroll through the episode list, and for episode 3, you see Clem looking up at someone or something while holding her hand on Rebecca's stomach. She looks distressed as well. We're probably going to have to help her deliver the child.

    Arbitrator posted: »

    They'll redeem them, I'm sure. I also suspect Luke is going to show some darker colours. I have a bad feeling about him... if I know

  • you are dumb, shes pregnant

    Lol. I hope so. Sorry, I know that's terrible to say about a pregnant woman, but she ticked me off. You'd think a woman who's about

  • clem is not lil girl anymore,get over it

    Amen. I'm with you on that. She really ticked me off. She'll make a horrible mother if she lives through the birth. No human being,

  • I wouldn't just believe the "new guys" words just like that. All we know Harker could be a good guy. I don't trust this Carlos guy at all. I'm not sure who or what or why they killed Roman, but it must be the good guys since Roman was mostly bad in the end of Shel's episode.

  • And how do you know that Tavia's group was safer? She was, as Vince puts it, "well-fed" which could mean a lot of things. coughBanditscoughCannibalismcough

  • If Tavia's group were bandits, why didn't they just raid the 400 Days group for their stuff?

    Ben Paul posted: »

    And how do you know that Tavia's group was safer? She was, as Vince puts it, "well-fed" which could mean a lot of things. coughBanditscoughCannibalismcough

  • edited December 2013

    Tavia's community might not be a bunch of monsters, but be at odds with Carlos' group, which could be interesting to see.

    Arbitrator posted: »

    If Tavia's group were bandits, why didn't they just raid the 400 Days group for their stuff?

  • There's still the chance that they were looking for humans to snack on.

    Arbitrator posted: »

    If Tavia's group were bandits, why didn't they just raid the 400 Days group for their stuff?

  • Wait, what?

    you are dumb, shes pregnant

  • The normal jerks, I'm okay with so long as they fall in line when they really need to, but I'm more concerned about this Carver guy. Pete and Nick were pretty terrified at the river when Pete said it was probably him. The way they went on made it seem like he was a bad dude. REALLY bad.

  • Oh good lord! That'll be interesting, to say the least. lol

    Scroll through the episode list, and for episode 3, you see Clem looking up at someone or something while holding her hand on Rebecca's stomach. She looks distressed as well. We're probably going to have to help her deliver the child.

  • Get over it? Where's the hostility coming from? Yes, she is a little girl. She's 10-11 years old. That's not a woman. She a very grown up child, but a child nonetheless.

    clem is not lil girl anymore,get over it

  • Riiiiight. If you can't handle civil discussion, maybe you shouldn't be posting. I don't get why you're so hostile. This isn't an argument. It's simply a discussion. I see no need for your nastiness.

    you are dumb, shes pregnant

  • Omg that would be so edgy

    I feel Tavia's group is led by this Carver... and that can't be good.

  • Remember we dont know who she cheated with just yet, maybe it was Luke?

    Scroll through the episode list, and for episode 3, you see Clem looking up at someone or something while holding her hand on Rebecca's stomach. She looks distressed as well. We're probably going to have to help her deliver the child.

  • True. Our perspective of the good guys and bad guys is all relative to what we see. It's hard to know. Unless there's a Governor (comics, not show) situation going on, where they're flat out evil, both sides may think they're in the right. There could be no good guys and bad guys between Tavia's group, Carver's group, or Pete's group. Maybe they're all just people who are trying to survive and they're battling for the few resources left.

    Tavia's community might not be a bunch of monsters, but be at odds with Carlos' group, which could be interesting to see.

  • The whole chapter with the dog looks like foreshadowing, I highly doubt it was just filler for the bite, and considering Luke's comment about the dog, I bet HE is the foreshadow: Es nice and friendly to clem, but at some point Clem wont gove him the respect he feels he deseves and then BiTe back.

    It's funny you say that because I didn't see that in him, but my husband did. He was watching as I was playing (he's played Season 1

  • Maybe Carver is Telltale's version of the Governor. That would be interesting to see.

    Rock114 posted: »

    The normal jerks, I'm okay with so long as they fall in line when they really need to, but I'm more concerned about this Carver guy.

  • I...didnt see it. That scene confused me and I'm not sure if it was a failure of communicaion by TTgs writers or if it was intentional.

    They were acting like somehing completely awful happened...unm...people were shot? Sooooo? Thats not entirely uncommon, they made it seem like they were brutally tortured or something.

    Remember that that other thug was there to, its possible these dead bodies were actually all bandits, and they were killed as such

    Rock114 posted: »

    The normal jerks, I'm okay with so long as they fall in line when they really need to, but I'm more concerned about this Carver guy.

  • They made a bunch of comments about the bodies being "full of holes" as in REALLY shot up. Plus, the place was at the river in the exact spot that they catch their fish. The part that they were probably freaking out over was that the shootout had been so close to their house, or at least one of the places that they frequented. Which would mean that they're likely to run into whoever did it (probably this Carver guy Pete mentioned), who is likely to not be a very nice person if the gunfight at the river was his work.

    K0t0 posted: »

    I...didnt see it. That scene confused me and I'm not sure if it was a failure of communicaion by TTgs writers or if it was intention

  • your upset at a woman having a baby with walkers everywhere

    Riiiiight. If you can't handle civil discussion, maybe you shouldn't be posting. I don't get why you're so hostile. This isn't an argument. It's simply a discussion. I see no need for your nastiness.

  • I'm upset that she's so cold to a little girl who's been through the mill. I would think that a woman so close to having a child of her own would feel the need to protect another child, but she just wants to throw Clementine to the walkers. Of course I'm biased because I played season 1, an entire season dedicated to protecting this child, but even if I hadn't it still wouldn't sit right with me. Pregnancy isn't an excuse. Christa was pregnant, but she still was a good person who cared about an orphaned little girl. I just think Rebecca seems like a crummy human being. She's a cheater (apparently) and the type of person who leaves little girls to die. That's not someone I would want to be around during the zombie apocalypse. Maybe she'll change and redeem herself. I hope so, for the sake of her own child. In the images for the upcoming episodes, Clementine can be seen with her, so there's hope I think. I can't help that I feel protective of Clementine because that was the entire focus of the first season and because I have a sibling around Clementine's age and I understand how vulnerable and precious children are. They're probably humanity's most valuable commodity, in real life and in the zombie apocalypse. Without them, humanity has no future.

    your upset at a woman having a baby with walkers everywhere

  • or maby it was Lee!

    K0t0 posted: »

    Remember we dont know who she cheated with just yet, maybe it was Luke?

  • TheDuckTheDuck Banned
    edited April 2014

    While I don't agree with them locking Clem in the shed, you have to consider their own situation. For starters, they were all pretty caught up in the heat of the moment. They took care of a bite victim in the past, who then promptly reanimated and bit one of their own before they could do anything. It's only natural their initial reaction to Clem, who they believe to be bitten, is initially one of fear. Even more so when you consider that someone very dangerous is after them, making her a potential threat regardless. Also, keep in mind that it was Nick's mother who got bitten by the bite victim they were taking care of. That explains why he is so quick to shoot at Clem-because he didn't last time and ended up having to kill his own mother after she got bit. He also later apologizes. Alvin, I've heard, will offer Clem a bandage and juice box if she gets him to sympathize with her. Luke's against locking her up at all.

    Also, I believe they ultimately changed their minds. They call a meeting almost immediately after leaving her in there. And consider how they find her with the walker. Why were they all suddenly outside and by the shed? I think that, after calming down, they had realized their mistake and planned to bring Clem inside.

  • edited April 2014

    I think everyone panicked and got mad because the last time we saw Clem she was 9 and when we saw the way she was being treated it was very different to when Lee was around. It took a bit to sink in that she is older now and can handle herself.

  • I'm talking about the cabin survivors, not the fans.

    Legendary12 posted: »

    I think everyone panicked and got mad because the last time we saw Clem she was 9 and when we saw the way she was being treated it was very different to when Lee was around. It took a bit to sink in that she is older now and can handle herself.

  • wasn't responding to you.

    TheDuck posted: »

    I'm talking about the cabin survivors, not the fans.

  • There a bunch of assholes who don't know how to properly treat an infectious wound.

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