Carver's Identity Revealed?!

edited December 2013 in The Walking Dead

So I was watching a play through of 400 Days and Russel said something about the group he was with that went like "There was a guy with a daughter about my age..." Couldn't that be Carlos and Sarah? Also he mentioned a teacher and his wife were in the group maybe Alvin and Rebecca? It would make sense because of what Carlos said in the preview for episode 2 when he mentioned that he was in a group before the group he's in now. Also They did say that Carver was the leader while Russel said Steve, but doesn't Carver sound more like a last name? So maybe his full name is Steve Carver? And don't forget Sarah looks a lot older than Clem so she could be about Russel's age. I think maybe after Russel left, Carlos, Sarah, Alvin, and Rebecca got fed up and left like Russel did. Maybe that's also why Carver's group hates Carlos' group for leaving. Just a theory I'd like to hear what you guys think :D

Edit: or maybe Carver is a nickname like the Governor and his real name is Steve idk :P

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  • edited December 2013

    Bump, extremely interesting...

    edit: dayum, good thing i bumped this xD

  • The only problem I see with this is that if it was Carlos and Sarah with Steve, Sarah would have been exposed to everything in the outside world. Carlos implies that he has kept Sarah sheltered since the beginning.

    Other than that, awesome theory.

  • Russel's story was like two years before season two. So, Sarah was 13 then, not exactly "daughter about my age".

  • edited December 2013

    It's interesting really. I think there might be more hints in 400 days, now that we played Ep1 in Second season, we might discover some connections which we missed before.

  • He never hinted that he tried to have sex with her, well, at least I never saw that in the options. Although, Nate did ASK him if he tried to, but I'm pretty sure that Russell replied with a "no".

    Flog61 posted: »

    Russel was at college/university wasn't he? Sarah is younger than that; she's 15. Plus, he hinted that he tried to have sex with the daughter, and I just can't imagine Sarah having....no......

  • edited December 2013

    Russel was at college/university wasn't he?

    Sarah is younger than that; she's 15.

    Plus, he hinted that he tried to have sex with the daughter, and I just can't imagine Sarah having....no......

  • I thought that he started a relationship with the daughter? Or he fancied her at least?

    Still, Sarah isn't his age so that would be a moot point. It isn't the same group.

    He never hinted that he tried to have sex with her, well, at least I never saw that in the options. Although, Nate did ASK him if he tried to, but I'm pretty sure that Russell replied with a "no".

  • Well, here's a theory. Once Russel left Steve's group, everyone did. And then Steve was alone so he joined a new group (or made a new group) and that's the group that Clem is with now, and he tried to do the same thing that he did when he was with Russel. But no, Russell never fancied the daughter.

    Flog61 posted: »

    I thought that he started a relationship with the daughter? Or he fancied her at least? Still, Sarah isn't his age so that would be a moot point. It isn't the same group.

  • What if Kenny's surname was Carver? Full name Kenneth Carver. Thoughts?

  • Russel said Steve kept the group at seven members, because that was a lucky number.
    So it couldn't be the same group.

  • Kenny wouldn't rape/have sex with a woman that isn't his wife. And he wouldn't do it considering he lost his wife and son, and plus, we already know that Carver isn't Kenny.

    alostguy25 posted: »

    What if Kenny's surname was Carver? Full name Kenneth Carver. Thoughts?

  • Nobody named Carver would name their son Duck.
    Duck Carver.
    Sounds like someone who prepares meals for a living.

    Ofcourse Carver could Always be a nickname given to someone who likes to carve his initials into , well, bodyparts.

    alostguy25 posted: »

    What if Kenny's surname was Carver? Full name Kenneth Carver. Thoughts?

  • Again, sorry, but Sarah and Russel just are not the same age.

    Plus, Russel can optionally rate her out of ten. I just don't see him rating Sarah out of ten.

    Well, here's a theory. Once Russel left Steve's group, everyone did. And then Steve was alone so he joined a new group (or made a ne

  • He didn't name his son Duck, Duck's name was Kenny Jr. ...

    Onmens posted: »

    Nobody named Carver would name their son Duck. Duck Carver. Sounds like someone who prepares meals for a living. Ofcourse Carver could Always be a nickname given to someone who likes to carve his initials into , well, bodyparts.

  • Why would Carver tell everyone to call him Steve and then change it to Carver?

  • Okay...
    Nobody named Carver would "nickname" his son Duck.
    Better now?

    Flog61 posted: »

    He didn't name his son Duck, Duck's name was Kenny Jr. ...

  • The game files tell carver's identity is STILL gonna be showed on episode 2, but all we know is his real name that is "johnny"
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  • Senhorcreeper, thanks so much for cracking the files :)

    The game files tell carver's identity is STILL gonna be showed on episode 2, but all we know is his real name that is "johnny"

  • I just played it and no he never did that. Nate only asked what Russel thought about her.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Russel was at college/university wasn't he? Sarah is younger than that; she's 15. Plus, he hinted that he tried to have sex with the daughter, and I just can't imagine Sarah having....no......

  • Well no because you'd never call someone by such an abstract nickname and their surname at the same time...

    He is either Duck or Kenny BullshittingTraitor (I think that was Kenny's surname..?)

    Onmens posted: »

    Okay... Nobody named Carver would "nickname" his son Duck. Better now?

  • Doing the same kind of group again after Russel left

    Flog61 posted: »

    Again, sorry, but Sarah and Russel just are not the same age. Plus, Russel can optionally rate her out of ten. I just don't see him rating Sarah out of ten.

  • It actually could be

    Onmens posted: »

    Russel said Steve kept the group at seven members, because that was a lucky number. So it couldn't be the same group.

  • I think people need to brace themselves, Russell is probably a Pedo

  • edited December 2013

    Awesome dude, so its Johnny Carver then, everyone should be informed about this

    The game files tell carver's identity is STILL gonna be showed on episode 2, but all we know is his real name that is "johnny"

  • And Russel can optionally give in and rate her out of ten.

    Rizefall posted: »

    I just played it and no he never did that. Nate only asked what Russel thought about her.

  • He could have easily found more people after everyone else left

    Onmens posted: »

    Russel said Steve kept the group at seven members, because that was a lucky number. So it couldn't be the same group.

  • I was trying to say maybe Carver is his last name so his full name would be Steve Carver

    Flog61 posted: »

    Why would Carver tell everyone to call him Steve and then change it to Carver?

  • Hey guys this just came to me. Maybe Carver isn't Steve but the cop in the group Russel was talking about. No one believed him so maybe he got mad and when the others escaped he killed Steve and found another group and then became through bargaining/intimidation he became the leader of his own group and now messes with the other group because he was mad they would never believe him (and also he could be mental). This is REALLY far-fetched but I'd like to hear what you guys think

  • But didn't Russel say something like there were only seven of them. That he was the lucky number seven, and they weren't taking anymore into his group. So, I don't know.

  • Yeah but they have to replace everyone that they lost so it would make sense to find some new group members

    MosesARose posted: »

    But didn't Russel say something like there were only seven of them. That he was the lucky number seven, and they weren't taking anymore into his group. So, I don't know.

  • Lol, the Johnny Carver was the name of a pub where I lived a few years ago xD

    The game files tell carver's identity is STILL gonna be showed on episode 2, but all we know is his real name that is "johnny"

  • The impression I got was that Rebecca had sex with the individual of her own free will. He lost his wife and son 2 years ago. Who knows what a man under so much pressure would so. Btw, how do you know Kenny isn't Carver? I'd appreciate it if you replied,thanks.

    Kenny wouldn't rape/have sex with a woman that isn't his wife. And he wouldn't do it considering he lost his wife and son, and plus, we already know that Carver isn't Kenny.

  • I know they aren't. I'm not retarded. I said they weren't.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Again, sorry, but Sarah and Russel just are not the same age. Plus, Russel can optionally rate her out of ten. I just don't see him rating Sarah out of ten.

  • I got that impression that she did it on her own free will too, I just added rape because some people were saying "what if she was raped?". Secondly, In the episode 2 trailer don't they show Carver? The guy in the camo jacket and brown hair? Didn't Carlos say that was Carver? If not, I apologize.

    But about Kenny, I wouldn't really get the impression that he would. He was so heart broken by it you wouldn't really think he would? But I high doubt Kenny is Carver, of course, that's my opinion though. :)

    alostguy25 posted: »

    The impression I got was that Rebecca had sex with the individual of her own free will. He lost his wife and son 2 years ago. Who

  • If they do show Carver in EP 2 trailer doesn't Clem say something like "I thught you were dead?" Dun dun dun.

    I got that impression that she did it on her own free will too, I just added rape because some people were saying "what if she was r

  • edited December 2013

    Snake Plissken might disagree.

    But anyway, it was just a joke. No need to get all anal about it.

    Flog61 posted: »

    Well no because you'd never call someone by such an abstract nickname and their surname at the same time... He is either Duck or Kenny BullshittingTraitor (I think that was Kenny's surname..?)

  • But this Steve was so screwed up he killed any newcomers just to keep their group at seven. It's hard to imagine him throwing that rule out of the window.
    There are already seven people at the cabin. Adding Carver would make eight.
    Plus there's Russell and Nick's mom to throw into the mix.

    PoopBrown posted: »

    He could have easily found more people after everyone else left

  • I'm pretty sure Nate was asking Russel to rate the zombie that grabbed him though the truck window.

    Flog61 posted: »

    And Russel can optionally give in and rate her out of ten.

  • The Cabin group always counted more than seven though Nick, Luke, Alvin, Rebecca, Pete, Carlos, Sarah, Carver (8) and Nick's mother who apparently only died recently which brings it to nine and even if you don't count her there are to many people to fit Steve's seven person dynamic.

    PoopBrown posted: »

    Yeah but they have to replace everyone that they lost so it would make sense to find some new group members

  • edited December 2013

    I shared the same theory in another thread and i pointed out that its quite possible that Pete, Pete's sister(Nick's mom) and Nick coudlve joined the group later on. So that makes:

    1.Russel
    2.Steve.
    3.Alvin(a teacher)
    4.Rebecca a.k.a Female Larry(Alvin's wife)
    5.A cop who nobody believed was a cop(could be Johnny Carver, but it could also be Luke which makes the theory false.However we can add Luke to the "joined later" group)
    6.Carlos
    7.Sarah(a father and his daughter)

    So here you go, lucky 7.

    The Cabin group always counted more than seven though Nick, Luke, Alvin, Rebecca, Pete, Carlos, Sarah, Carver (8) and Nick's mother

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