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The Dog Scene

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I'm disgusted and appalled. How dare you ruin the game for me like that. I'm never buying another game from your company again. Ruined my whole damn evening. I hate you.

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  • Why? Do you not like seeing animals get killed or something? I mean much worse things happen to animals on a day to day basis then what was portrayed in-game, I thought It was an intense and sad emotional experience that I didn't even see coming. I liked the dog a lot and was very sad when it died but that doesn't make me hate the game.

    • What kind of sociopath likes to see animals getting killed? Because worse things happen to animals on a day to day basis is WHY I don't need to see it in the games I play.

      Besides, it didnt make any sense whatsoever. It was a pet that was used to being fed. it played fetch and was docile around clem. Telltale just made the dog go beserk cause they dont have a clue how real life works and in the process ruined a perfectly good game.

      I have no problems if a person dies in a game, chances are a person had it coming.

      Animals are innocent (and children) which is why you don't do this sort of thing.

      • Animals are NOT innocent! They are savage, ruthless, and moral-less! They do whatever it takes to survive. Racoons and other small creatures dig into your food stash, causing you to starve. A bear mauls you because you are to close for comfort. A mountain lion murders you out of starvation and kills you. A dog bites you and gives you an infection for a can of beans. Animals are far from innocent; it is the worst you can be. When a domestic dog turns savage, is kill or be killed; I don't care anymore what it once was, it is now a savage.

        • While it's true that nature is brutal, to say that animals lack morals or aren't "innocent" because they do exactly what their instincts direct them to is a pretty weird argument. It's true, sure, but only because you're pushing human concepts onto them where they obviously don't fit by establishing the conclusion of "innocence", which is something only we can judge, and then picking out natural brutal behavior that doesn't jive with the human point of view on what innocence is. In other words, animals aren't innocent, true... but not because they're bad, they aren't innocent because innocence is not an animal concept. (Edited for my deplorable grammar before :P)

          Animals don't attack you because they're evil or enjoy the thought of hurting you. Human beings are the ones who do that. Hell, the things humans have done throughout history and today make animals look like friggin' saints in comparison. Animals react out of instinct, protectiveness of their young from stupid people who wandered into their territory, or hunger.

          But hey, as long as we can all agree that the OP is being utterly ridiculous and that humans are the most despicable things on this planet, bar none, I guess none of this really matters. :P

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            Viva-La-Lee BANNED

            Putting human concepts on something is the only way of a human identifying it. It's like saying a rat is brown, it doesn't know it is brown but a human identifies it as such, because otherwise we couldn't determine it was a rat (obviously other identifiers apply since we are talking about a rat and not just the color brown.) Point is without applying human concepts of what something is then we don't know what that something is. By our concepts an animal is cruel because it kills without mercy, for one reason or another, it does. An animal is disgusting, most animals do little to no cleaning, making them by our standards, unclean. In the end our ideas of what makes that animal what it is, is all that animal is (philosophical perspective, not scientific perspective). I can't wait until a dog has sentient thought and points out our flaws...

        • Are they ruthless? Humans are the only want who can be savage, ruthless and moral-less, because we have knowledge to achieve that. Animals just kill for food, humans kill for fun.

          Sometimes we could learn a thing or two from animals like dogs...

          • In human definition, they are ruthless: they have no morals or ethics, no thought before action, so therefore, by human definition, they are ruthless. We were gifted with thought, but we are also cursed with thought; if we use our gift in the wrong way, we can potentially turn worse than a savage. There is a reason why animals are seen as the lowest one can be in human society: it's because they are the basic functions of living, but nothing more. But only a human can be worse than an animal if he decides to be. A human can choose to enjoy murder; an animal cannot. A human can also choose to enjoy helping others; an animal cannot.

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        Animals are innocent? Oh the ignorance! Please, stop playing the game and go live in the woods for awhile. Animals are not innocent, they are vicious, disgusting, horrible creatures. I have pets, and I like them, may even say I love them, but they are animals and are nothing more than animals. I will care more about what happens to an animal than a human when they have sentient thought. Until then, though, I want more chicken.

      • Children and animals are innocent. Wtf? Wow let's base a whole game on one quick meaningless scene. Get over it. It's just a videogames dude. Get off here while your at it. People don't need or care about your negative comments. Bye now.

        • agreed, the scene was meant to show "you're never safe in this world, even your closed ally will turn on you at a moments notice if you have something it wants" the issue was to have you ask "how do you react" do you let the little beast suffer for attacking you, or do you show mercy either because you are still kind or because you know it didn't do it out of malice and why let it suffer?

        • Guess she didnt mind the parts when walking dead were eating children and adults... :P

      • And I'm guessing the animal DIDN'T have it coming after almost killing Clementine?

        Lol.

      • are you mentally ill? you've watched shows where people get ripped to part. killed for no reason or just plain tortured. But watching a dog die, that is "TO MUCH" The dog didn't go "berzerk" it was starving. you ever try to take a food bowl from a dog while its eating? Even the most docile dog will snap at you if not growl the moment your hand hovers near. You have a very moronic and childish outlook on the world. And if the zombies ever did come, you'd be in a sad state. "i can't shoot that dog thats mauling me. its someones pet!"

      • Ever eat a hamburger or eggs?

        They had to die oo...

      • I thought it made plenty of sense. The dog had been living without humans for a long time and was starving.

        All the options for Clementine had her do something that could invoke food-aggression, even if you willingly share the food the dog gets overeager and Clementine tries to take it back to prevent it from eating all of it, which provokes an attack because she is taking away his food.

        Many seemingly docile dogs turn quite crazy when you get near them while they are eating and there are actually quite a few kids getting killed every year due to dogs suddenly turning on them because they unknowingly breached their boundaries, like touching their food.

        Animals are never malicious like a human might be but the term innocent doesn't really apply either.

      • youre right a dog justdont atack you like this

      • Are you kidding Vangaluss? They killed Duck you know, and he's a kid....

  • Don't be a big baby. Nearly your entire group dies in season one, seven people all together, yet you're worried about ONE dog?

    Oh, I'm sorry, lets make The Walking Dead completely age appropriate. Let's make sure that nothing dies and everyone is happy, that is such a fun game mechanic! Yes, a completely harmless environment with no intensity whatsoever! In fact, lets replace those lurkers with kittens! Yes! The Walking Kittens! No swearing or naughty stuph either! How fun and emotional for a choice game!

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    Viva-La-Lee BANNED

    You are sad about the dog dying (understandable), but you are more put off by that than all the dead people we see in this game? Pathetic, go back to PETA, I'm going to get me some chicken.

  • Your anger just means that TellTale done their job of invoking an emotional response extremely well.

  • "You don't kill dogs" - Luke

  • Remember when that woman shot that teenage girl in the stomach with a rifle, though? That was pretty rad. Shame they had to ruin it with a scene of a little girl kicking away a dog that viciously attacked her and then mercifully putting it down when she saw that it was suffering.

  • This is totally a troll thread! Vangallus just joined today and started this only discussion! He/she is either a troll or a pissed off customer that joined this thread and created one about the scene expecting that we give a shit!

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    Viva-La-Lee BANNED

    On a completely serious note, thank you so much! This post made me giggle and smile the entire time.

  • You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

    They should have just made sam the main character anyway.

  • People have been complaining about this scene since this episode came out. Although the scene killed me it was not in vain. The whole idea with Sam is two things:

    1. They needed the new group to think you were bitten, since you spent like half the episode trying to convince and survive the group. The whole bite incident was the central conflict in episode 1.

    2. It shows how the world has changed to the point where a dog would back stab you for a can of beans. I thought it was symbolic showing how selfish humanity has become and now you don't know who you can trust. Ironic since dogs are supposed to be the most loyal animal on the planet (I could be wrong about that though).

    • "Man's best friend is Clem's worst enemy"

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      nope your wrong telltale should have never killed that dog even for the story thats just cruel.

      • In case you haven't noticed by now, The Walking Dead is not a kind universe. It's merciless and cruel. Billions of human beings are lurkers, humanity is on the verge of extinction, bandits and dictators show the worst of humanity, psychos are around every corner, and almost everybody has lost family members.

        So according to you, killing one dog is somehow more cruel than the ENTIRE population of Earth being whipped out. A dog that attacked Clementine, no less!

      • And how about them releasing a virus that causes the recently deceased to rise up with an insatiable hunger for the flesh of the living, just to add a bit of drama to their game? It's like, come on guys, we get that you're serious about story-telling in gaming but bringing on the apocalypse just makes it look like you're trying too hard.

        I don't know what the word "fiction" means.

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      you have to admit jaydenaceryder is wrong because killing that dog was for nothing but to shock us which is not right

      • No; The entire episode was based around that bite. Had the dog not bit her, the episode would only be a half hour long.

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          ImTheBomb BANNED

          no it wasnt there was plenty of scenes that was not based on the bite

        • Which makes it even worse for me because I thought the dog's behaviour seemed poorly written. I'm pretty sure a starving and lost-for-god-knows-how-long dog doesn't go befriending a stranger (consider it should think most people are trying to kill it since there are walkers) and then seconds later start butchering her when she opens a can of food. I know little about dogs but I really didn't buy that. It seemed like one of those "there-to-shock-you moments"

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            ImTheBomb BANNED

            see im not the only one here who feels like it was only there for shock value

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            Viva-La-Lee BANNED

            Null and Void. Dogs don't think, they act or react. Clementine posed no threatening traits, ergo the dog was not threatened. The dog reacted when food was within reach. Completely realistic? Perhaps not, but it is a work of fiction. Get over it.

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              ImTheBomb BANNED

              how am i just supposed to get over a dogs death that served no purpose

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                Viva-La-Lee BANNED

                No purpose? You must not have played the rest of the episode. Until you can give an answer to that question yourself.... well bye.

              • By reminding yourself that it wasn't a real dog!

              • It wasn't a real dog, jeez. It's a videogame, how people can get this mad due to a fictional dogs death is beyond me, even though it's a game based on that humans become zombies who kill everything they see, but this is of course no problem, who cares about humans, dogs are so cute so pls don't kill them Telltale! I hope episode 2 is more childfrendly, I mean, it is the targeted audience, right? Picture yourselves in that situation, a dog attacks you under a zombie apocolypse, do you think "Oh go ahaid, I can't hurt you, you are a dog after all. I've survived years under the zombieapocolypse but I'll just let you kill me now"?

                Doesn't matter really as OP is an obvious troll.

            • This has to be the most ignorant comment ive ever heard. You know nothing about dogs, shut your mouth before you make yourself look even more idiotic.

          • There was a debate like that earlier. We came to the conclusion that the dog had "food aggression" meaning a completely friendly dog can go mad if food is involved.

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              ImTheBomb BANNED

              if it was food agression as soon as clem dropped the food one the ground he would have stopped attacking

              • Not necessarily: perhaps the dog felt it was necessary to kill Clementine to keep her from taking the food.

                But don't argue with me, go to the thread I mentioned. I'll give you the link if you want.

        • That is so true,ohyoupokedme.

    • I suspect that the dog is still loyal... (To its owners, hence why it's staying in the area still) Just not to Clem.

    • Don't know about you, but the illogicality of it all annoys me. Unless the owners were lax with their training of the dog (which the dog's initial timidness testifies against) then Sam's attack was out-of-the-blue even ifhe was hungry. A proper dog is trained to know the humans eat first and the dog eats later, if at all.

      Really, it was simply forced as TT couldn't spare a moments worth to give us two ways to get bitten or even injured on the arm. Had to make all the set-pieces look pretty.

      Wait a minute... Set pieces... Little interactivity... Rail roading... My god, The Walking Dead is slowly becoming Call of Duty. Hell, they even put FPS sequences in the first game.

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