Why the $@&# did he leave it in plain sight?!?!?!

I'm new to the TellTale community, so I apologize if this discussion has already been had. But why in the $@&;# did Crane just leave a a folder of pictures of him in the hotel room sitting their with Lily's dead body. I understand that Bigby had to find them, but at least put them in Crane's desk or in his apartment or something, not just sitting there in the open at a crime scene.

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  • The game strongly implies Crane is being framed. Sure, he has indeed met Lily and has a fetish for Snow. But he didn't kill her.

  • That's what I was thinking as well.

    Also, coming into this thread, I was expecting the thread to be about the camera in the interrogation room instead of the photos of Crane.

    The game strongly implies Crane is being framed. Sure, he has indeed met Lily and has a fetish for Snow. But he didn't kill her.

  • But... Who framed Crane Ichabod?

  • Tell me more :D

    That's what I was thinking as well. Also, coming into this thread, I was expecting the thread to be about the camera in the interrogation room instead of the photos of Crane.

  • I think it's implied that the mind wipe spell takes care of the tape. But maybe in later episodes the tape will be seen and the police will be freaking out and try to track Bigby down

    That's what I was thinking as well. Also, coming into this thread, I was expecting the thread to be about the camera in the interrogation room instead of the photos of Crane.

  • Im sure at some point it will be revealed that Crane was framed and whoever did it will make it seem like Bluebeard is behind it which is why we see Bigby accusing Bluebeard of something in the poster for Episode 4 but I don't think he is involved either way too obvious, Its like believing the Cat when he tells you the Dog ate the Rat

    But... Who framed Crane Ichabod?

  • Maybe Bluebeard? Because if he gets Crane out of the picture, he claims the position of Mayor

    But... Who framed Crane Ichabod?

  • edited March 2014

    My feeling was that one of Georgie's girls stole something to use as Blackmail...thinking it was Faith (as T-Dee calling her a thief) was targeted. Lilly was killed accidently because she and Faith switched schedules., before finaly getting what they felt was the right girl....Crane's photo was left there to make him the patsy, there had to be more then one as TJ told Bigby he heard one person saying, "stop laughing at me" just as they dumped Lily's body........I still feel the headless Horseman might be in on this

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    Maybe Bluebeard? Because if he gets Crane out of the picture, he claims the position of Mayor

  • I would love to see the Headless Horseman in this game. Though when he would be glamoured, he'd just look like a normal guy

    BlackVenom posted: »

    My feeling was that one of Georgie's girls stole something to use as Blackmail...thinking it was Faith (as T-Dee calling her a thi

  • I think the reason TTG changed the 3d episode's slide is also because it kinda gives away some of that plot :P Like,the police find the tape and go searching for Biggs,'cause they think he's the killer.

    That's what I was thinking as well. Also, coming into this thread, I was expecting the thread to be about the camera in the interrogation room instead of the photos of Crane.

  • I think it is planted. Depending on how you find the clues, the envelops can be found in different places.

  • I thought Crane took the tape too. He took everything else.

    That's what I was thinking as well. Also, coming into this thread, I was expecting the thread to be about the camera in the interrogation room instead of the photos of Crane.

  • I had a suspicion of Bluebeard until he actually showed up in this episode. He seems sincere when trying to get answers during the interrogation, and even getting pissed off at Bigby if he goes easy (non-violent) on the questioning. I love the smirk he gives when I pocket the cash. :D

  • edited March 2014

    Maybe that is just his cover. Or maybe he really hates TweedleDee XD

    Arucard posted: »

    I had a suspicion of Bluebeard until he actually showed up in this episode. He seems sincere when trying to get answers during the

  • Like that red headed guy snow bumped into on her way out and on line with Grendel

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    I would love to see the Headless Horseman in this game. Though when he would be glamoured, he'd just look like a normal guy

  • Well if someone is framing Crane, who took the picture? Crane had both hands on Lily and she was getting pretty intensely groped by Crane to take a photo. So was it on a timer, or just a mistake on the developers part, or was someone else there?

  • edited March 2014

    The trailer for Ep3 shows "Crane" getting in the car and one of those form-changing witch charm tubes on the seat of the car. Sure Crane may have taken it from Lily's body evidence, but it implies that he may be shape shifted as well - or may have been when photos were taken for framing.

    When people may or may not have the form of someone else, its pretty damn hard t know whats what.

  • But during that scene, Crane seemed distressed and in a hurry, like he was running. Implying that he was running from Fabletown because he had been found out as being a creepy-ass pedophile so why would a glamoured Crane need to run?

    The_DPR posted: »

    The trailer for Ep3 shows "Crane" getting in the car and one of those form-changing witch charm tubes on the seat of the car. Sur

  • edited March 2014

    found out as being a creepy-ass pedophile<

    LOL. Last time I checked, Snow White nor Lilly are pre-pubescent children.

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    But during that scene, Crane seemed distressed and in a hurry, like he was running. Implying that he was running from Fabletown because he had been found out as being a creepy-ass pedophile so why would a glamoured Crane need to run?

  • Well, you get what I'm trying to say XD

    LBF_29 posted: »

    found out as being a creepy-ass pedophile< LOL. Last time I checked, Snow White nor Lilly are pre-pubescent children.

  • people that have a strong obsession with someone will take photos of the person yes, not pictures of them doing their thing to the person. the view of the camera shows a person crouching down and looking slightly up, catching Crane and Lilly in one picture. to get that angle you have to be in a connor or out of the window taking the photos. It must be the out of the window, crane would have seen the person otherwise.

    (BTW: picking up the photos, did everyone see that? Telltale set it up once you pick up the pile of photos it leads to ending cut scene. once you have them in your hand you can't back away and look at the other items in the room. there is actually two places where the photos can be found, in the cabinet after you look at the dress Lilly was wearing, and under the rug after picking up the apple. if you pick up the one in the cabinet you might miss the rest of the clues the murder location.

  • That's not implied at all, since Crane is in fact a creep and the comics stated he was kicked out of Fabletown, the game is showing why he was kicked out.

    The game strongly implies Crane is being framed. Sure, he has indeed met Lily and has a fetish for Snow. But he didn't kill her.

  • It wasn't in the open, that was Crane's pravte room and only he had the key. The only reason anyone found it was because Bigby and Beast knock down the door.

  • Since he doesn't look like Snow, it's obvious he didn't use the glamour. Since you know, the glamour he took was the one he gave lily so she could look like Snow.

    The_DPR posted: »

    The trailer for Ep3 shows "Crane" getting in the car and one of those form-changing witch charm tubes on the seat of the car. Sur

  • It's not planted, the comics stated Crane has an obsession with Snow.

    I think it is planted. Depending on how you find the clues, the envelops can be found in different places.

  • The Headless Horseman was just a prank played on Crane in the Fableverse.

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    I would love to see the Headless Horseman in this game. Though when he would be glamoured, he'd just look like a normal guy

  • Except Bluebeard is still around by the start of fables, it's not him.

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    Maybe Bluebeard? Because if he gets Crane out of the picture, he claims the position of Mayor

  • The Headless Horseman was just a prank played on Crane, so we won't be seeing him.

    BlackVenom posted: »

    My feeling was that one of Georgie's girls stole something to use as Blackmail...thinking it was Faith (as T-Dee calling her a thi

  • I don't want to spoil it for anyone, but we figured out who it was already. There is a thread. http://www.telltalegames.com/community/discussion/58153/the-crooked-man-update-on-suspect

  • I am not saying that Crane wasn't obsess with Snow. I am saying that I think the photos was planted because I doubt he would leave those photos on the room where the murder took place.

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    It's not planted, the comics stated Crane has an obsession with Snow.

  • So you think we've solved the murders in episode 2?

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    That's not implied at all, since Crane is in fact a creep and the comics stated he was kicked out of Fabletown, the game is showing why he was kicked out.

  • since Crane is in fact a creep

    I've already covered that in my comment. The comics show he was kicked not only because of Snow, he was also corrupt. Crane is not the murderer.

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    That's not implied at all, since Crane is in fact a creep and the comics stated he was kicked out of Fabletown, the game is showing why he was kicked out.

  • Where the hell did i say he was the murderer?

    Flog61 posted: »

    So you think we've solved the murders in episode 2?

  • No shit? That's exactly what i said. He's guilty of being a creep with an obsession with snow, which is what Bigby and Beauty discover in episode 2.

    And i never said he was the murderer, did you even read my post?

    since Crane is in fact a creep I've already covered that in my comment. The comics show he was kicked not only because of Snow, he was also corrupt. Crane is not the murderer.

  • But that was his private room that only he had the keys to. The photos are his.

    The killer probably killed Lily after Crane had left.

    I am not saying that Crane wasn't obsess with Snow. I am saying that I think the photos was planted because I doubt he would leave those photos on the room where the murder took place.

  • The only thing framing him is the fact that someone killed Lily in his private room. But the photos are probably his.

    The game strongly implies Crane is being framed. Sure, he has indeed met Lily and has a fetish for Snow. But he didn't kill her.

  • And i never said he was the murderer, did you even read my post?

    Yes, I did. I first stated Crane has indeed a fetish for Snow and that he was framed for the murder of Lily. To which you replied:

    That's not implied at all, since Crane is in fact a creep and the comics stated he was kicked out of Fabletown, the game is showing why he was kicked out.

    It's true, you didn't say Crane is the murderer, but your comment can be easily interpreted as such.

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    No shit? That's exactly what i said. He's guilty of being a creep with an obsession with snow, which is what Bigby and Beauty discover in episode 2. And i never said he was the murderer, did you even read my post?

  • So you are saying that Crane took photos of himself and placed it in the room where he was having meeting with Lily? And letting Bigby find it? I am pretty sure that if I was Crane, I would have gone back to room 207 and retrieve the photos rather than letting Bigby find them. Is it because he didn't believe Bigby would find them? I doubt it. Or is it because someone planted it without Crane knew about it?

    Those bunch of photos raises many questions.

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    But that was his private room that only he had the keys to. The photos are his. The killer probably killed Lily after Crane had left.

  • We shall see, I hope our questions will be answered tomorrow when the episode gets release.

    DiscoTurkey posted: »

    Well if someone is framing Crane, who took the picture? Crane had both hands on Lily and she was getting pretty intensely groped by Crane to take a photo. So was it on a timer, or just a mistake on the developers part, or was someone else there?

  • You said this is why he was kicked out of Fabletown.

    Unless you were implying that someone would be kicked out of a community for a sexual fetish they have no control over and dealing with it in a legal way.

    BullseyeRey posted: »

    Where the hell did i say he was the murderer?

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