Kenny's State of Mind and Kenny VS. Luke

edited March 2014 in The Walking Dead

I think Kenny will break this Season. He seems to be on the verge in this episode. I think it'll be when/if Sarita dies. I think Kenny is telling himself that he's ok and Sarita is sort of like a new "substitute" for Kaatja (as bad as that sounds). When Clem comes, he sort of feels like he has a family again, as he calls Clem "Duck" (sort of like a replacement Duck). This is probably the reason for his creepy over-optimistic attitude when you first meet him. I think two major things that are keeping Kenny together are Sarita and Clem. In this season, I think a big dynamic will be siding with either Kenny/Luke. I feel like Kenny will start to loose it a bit if you trust Luke more. And if Sarita dies soon, Ken will absolutely flip SHIT.

Now, an analysis of Kenny's state of mind through a discussion with a fellow TT member I had, Rock114

There's some obvious things, like the creepy, awkward laughter and the "Duck" slip up during dinner, but what set off alarm bells to me was when he mentioned Wellington. Listen to him describe that place. Fresh water from the lakes, a safe camp full of good people, no walkers... sounds exactly like paradise, huh? Then listen to him explode when Nick and Luke cast doubt on his pristine picture of it. He loses his mind. This is exactly the same way he acted during Episode 4 concerning the boat last Season. He was obsessive toward it, and blew up on anyone who disagreed with him about it. Sarita is a pretty obvious replacement for Katjaa, and the "Duck" slip during dinner indicates he was thinking of his old family when talking to Clem. Kenny never moved on from the events of Long Road Ahead. He's trapped in the past because he lost everything, and instead of attempting to move on, he's trying to recreate it, first through Sarita, then Clem, followed by Wellington, a zombie free paradise where no harm could ever reach them. He is most definitely on the edge of craziness. -Rock 114

Yup. He has some problems. And it's gonna bite us in the back if we are bros with Luke. He obviously doesn't like Luke because Kenny thinks Clem is his "Duck" now. He wants to be the new Lee, in a sense, and feels like Luke is stealing that from him. And Sarita is his "Kaatja". He keeps telling himself he has his family back and everything's gonna be ok in Wellington, which explains the bad jokes and out of place laughter. But deep down, he knows his family is dead but he doesn't want to deal with it. This is displayed when he calls Clem "Duck" and gets really sad and pissed at himself. -Me

Exactly. Sooner or later, he won't be able to keep everything buried, and when it all comes out and he has to face it, he'll lose his mind. -Rock114

One things for sure, Kenny and Luke will butt heads this Season. Exactly like Kenny/Lilly in Season 1. Clem is caught in the middle, just like Lee. Kenny and Clem are both fighting over the spot of deuteragonist in the credits haha. -Me

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So what do you think of Kenny's state of mind? What about Luke vs. Kenny? Put your thoughts below!

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  • edited March 2014

    I think it all depends on your choices, we already saw in Episode2 that the choices we can make can have a great impact on the story. If you decide with Kenny over Luke for example, he will become happyer and stay strong for you after losing Sarita. If you decide to side with Luke on the other hand, he is probaply gonna lose it! (if Luke even shows up by this point, we don't know that yet)

  • Analysis up

  • Yup, choices, choices.

    I think it all depends on your choices, we already saw in Episode2 that the choices we can make can have a great impact on the sto

  • I think Sarita is actually afraid of him now, hes definitely crazy. The way he reacted to her picking up the box or when Luke and Nick called his plan a BS. Definitely crazy.

  • I agree with pretty much everything. He's gonna break but he'll get over it. Kenny is my friend. I'm backing him up because that's what a good friend would do, no matter what state of mind somebody is in. Remember in S1 E3 when Kenny is extremely stubborn and won't stop the train? He saw reason when Lee told him that talking to a friend would help him out. I believe if I can do that, he'll come around. Sure, it'll take a while and yeah he's kinda nuts at the moment but fuck that If you think I'm gonna just drop him when he had Lee's back in S1. It might not be the most rational thing to do but I'm not gonna just stand idle and let him turn crazy by himself.

  • That's Telltale's plan, I bet. They're all like, "Hey look, you have Kenny now!", but later, he's gonna snap, get someone killed, and we'll wish he wasn't with us.

  • Yup, I agree

    Graysonn posted: »

    I agree with pretty much everything. He's gonna break but he'll get over it. Kenny is my friend. I'm backing him up because that's

  • edited March 2014

    They created a good arc for Kenny I think :)

    Weavoid posted: »

    That's Telltale's plan, I bet. They're all like, "Hey look, you have Kenny now!", but later, he's gonna snap, get someone killed, and we'll wish he wasn't with us.

  • I think Kenny's definitely just hiding his psychotic-ness. It's weird that he goes from being so neutral to Clementine during Season 1 to being incredibly friendly in Season 2 out of nowhere. He doesn't hate Clementine, but the only reason he's so friendly is because now, with Lee gone, Clementine could replace Duck for him.

  • edited March 2014

    I got a bit freaked out when he snapped at Sarita too. He probably thought he was talking to Katjaa.

    I think Sarita is actually afraid of him now, hes definitely crazy. The way he reacted to her picking up the box or when Luke and Nick called his plan a BS. Definitely crazy.

  • Agreed

    Gorthaur posted: »

    I think Kenny's definitely just hiding his psychotic-ness. It's weird that he goes from being so neutral to Clementine during Seas

  • Makes sense

    Gorthaur posted: »

    I think Kenny's definitely just hiding his psychotic-ness. It's weird that he goes from being so neutral to Clementine during Seas

  • You mean IF Kenny hasn't already killed Luke out of jealousy

  • Luke wouldn't have died so soon!

    DarthCaine posted: »

    You mean IF Kenny hasn't already killed Luke out of jealousy

  • I let Kenny beat me up.. I didn't know how to fight back so... :P

    Graysonn posted: »

    I agree with pretty much everything. He's gonna break but he'll get over it. Kenny is my friend. I'm backing him up because that's

  • edited March 2014

    Hopefully my Clem will be there to help Kenny through that when it inevitably happens... I'm happy to see him, but yeah, pretty soon I was thinking, "why is he so stuck in the past"? He really never did get past Long Road Ahead... But still, I'm hoping that in this Season he will be able to put it behind him. He'll have to, or it'll kill him. Maybe that will be one of the choices in later episodes, to try and make Kenny deal with what happened, after so long... Clementine is probably the only one who could help him now.

  • I think that the drawing of Kenny Clementine has will be Involved. Maybe Kenny will find it in her bag and something will happen and then you know.

    Weavoid posted: »

    That's Telltale's plan, I bet. They're all like, "Hey look, you have Kenny now!", but later, he's gonna snap, get someone killed, and we'll wish he wasn't with us.

  • Yeah, I thought he would have forgotten, but he's still living in the past. It's a good story arc, though

    Zyphon posted: »

    Hopefully my Clem will be there to help Kenny through that when it inevitably happens... I'm happy to see him, but yeah, pretty so

  • edited March 2014

    Kenny can be a little crazy. But surely he would'a died for Clem. He can fuck some things up and be bitchy to other's but if i would come to choose between Luke and Kenny, i would go for Kenny. Hard decision it is thou.
    Btw. The moment when Carver grabs Clem and Kenny immediately surrenders is beautiful.

  • edited March 2014

    Yup. Kenny surrendered to Carver once he put the gun to Clem's head.

    Kryga303 posted: »

    Kenny can be a little crazy. But surely he would'a died for Clem. He can fuck some things up and be bitchy to other's but if i wou

  • Do you get this when you give yourself up?

    Kryga303 posted: »

    Kenny can be a little crazy. But surely he would'a died for Clem. He can fuck some things up and be bitchy to other's but if i wou

  • He'll probably break at some point, but I think he is going to die in episode three or four. He seems more delusional than ever, that's certain, but I worry he'll become one of Carver's lackeys because maybe Carver will convince him that his community is paradise. Just a thought.

  • I feel like I'm the only person who doesn't like Kenny...him and Lee didn't like each other in season 1 for me.

  • Sounds legit

    Chalky posted: »

    He'll probably break at some point, but I think he is going to die in episode three or four. He seems more delusional than ever, t

  • But, I burned my picture, so is that gonna be bad for me

    FlyKittyFly posted: »

    I think that the drawing of Kenny Clementine has will be Involved. Maybe Kenny will find it in her bag and something will happen and then you know.

  • Yeah, but it could be good for you too. Maybe if he doesn't have the picture he won't go mental because he won't be reminded of the past as much. But then the picture is also a souvenir and Kenny needs it.

    Idontcare posted: »

    But, I burned my picture, so is that gonna be bad for me

  • Ya, if you try to save Alvin by running at him or yelling for kenny to stop.

    FlyKittyFly posted: »

    Do you get this when you give yourself up?

  • edited March 2014

    Yup. For me, it happened when I ran up to protect Alivn. After he let go of him, Carver took Clementine instead and pointed a gun at her head. Kenny gave up after that.

    FlyKittyFly posted: »

    Do you get this when you give yourself up?

  • Side with the seemingly coherent companion or side with the seemingly insane companion?

    Is this season one or season two?

  • Season 3.

    Dun dun duuuun!!

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Side with the seemingly coherent companion or side with the seemingly insane companion? Is this season one or season two?

  • Kenny's definitely showing signs of PTSD, but I'm praying Telltale won't pull the trigger on him in episode 3. Allowing such a major character to return, only to knock him off in the following episode, would be a monumental waste. The best comparison I can think of is Kris Kristofferson's Whistler from the BLADE movies. BLADE 2 went to almost insane lengths to resurrect Whistler, only to give him the axe in the first ten minutes of BLADE: TRINITY. (I still can't get over how horrible that film was.) Besides, Telltale's already pulled the "shock value" stunt on Omid; doing the same to Kenny would be aggravating, not to mention cheap.

    I do think Kenny and Luke's antagonistic relationship will come to a head in part 3. Clem would then have to make a final decision between the two men that results in one of them dying. Considering IN HARM'S WAY is the midway point of the season, that would be the best time for either character to become determinant for the rest of the series.

  • Clem put the drawing in her pocket in episode 1 if you didn't burn it, it probably washed away or got all wet and soggy when Clem fell in the river.

    FlyKittyFly posted: »

    I think that the drawing of Kenny Clementine has will be Involved. Maybe Kenny will find it in her bag and something will happen and then you know.

  • I agree with you bro

    Kenny's definitely showing signs of PTSD, but I'm praying Telltale won't pull the trigger on him in episode 3. Allowing such a maj

  • K0t0K0t0 Banned

    So can I expect Kenny to, like in season 1, accuse me of only thinking about myself and being selfish despite my efforts to help him?

  • edited March 2014

    Kenny's exactly as he was. He brought up Duck because every time we see Clem at the motor inn, she was always with Duck, or at least MENTIONED Duck. It wouldn't be a stretch to say that Ken associated Clem with Duck. After all, he only knew Clem for five days after Duck's death. What Ken's plan sounds more like to me is the RV.

  • It really feels like we're going to have a butting of heads between Luke and Kenny much like in season one with Lily and Kenny, then at some point Kenny will snap and Luke will explain that everyone has lost someone not just Kenny.

  • I agree completely. I said the same things on another thread actually. I'll add it

    doggywoggy posted: »

    It really feels like we're going to have a butting of heads between Luke and Kenny much like in season one with Lily and Kenny, then at some point Kenny will snap and Luke will explain that everyone has lost someone not just Kenny.

  • Yeah, that was strange

    I think Sarita is actually afraid of him now, hes definitely crazy. The way he reacted to her picking up the box or when Luke and Nick called his plan a BS. Definitely crazy.

  • edited March 2014

    Become one of Carver's lackies? From the previews, it looks like Kenny won't be backing down to Carver anytime soon. There's one scene where Kenny stands up to him and he gets pistol whipped. I don't think that Kenny would give in to Carver. He doesn't seem like a guy who would just shut up and follow someone like that.

    Chalky posted: »

    He'll probably break at some point, but I think he is going to die in episode three or four. He seems more delusional than ever, t

  • Kenny hasn't changed much in his attitude but he does seem to be cracking a little bit. He's getting creepy and its not just the beard. I didnt have much reaction to seeing him alive, maybe because I was getting annoyed with all the threads about him, but I am starting to get interested where his character goes from here. I still dont trust him though.

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