Do you still hate Rebecca?

edited March 2014 in The Walking Dead

Myself, I'd always argued in her hate threads that her behaving like she did in EP1 was just because of her pregnancy hormones and whatnot. I knew it from experience...

I'm glad I did not blackmail her.

She was so nice to Clem in EP2, and when she let her listen to the baby's kicks, I was smiling like an idiot. It was such a sweet scene!
And she also confides her secret to Clem anyway if you hadn't blackmailed her in EP1. I do think she is really sorry for the way she acted in EP1.

Her love for Alvin seems so sincere too. "I love you , silly bear!"

On my first playthrough, I accidentaly let Alvin die, and oh my god, that was so damn sad. The way she was crying and screaming his name... I just had to rewind it to fix it :[

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  • I'm glad she apologized, but nothing's changed.

  • Because Rebecca warmed up to Clem and even apologized that redeemed herself in my eyes.

  • i'm happy that she didn't just turn into the larry of season 2 like we all thought i actually like her now :3

  • I grew up with mostly women around me so I understand her bitchiness...sorta. But, I'm also glad I didn't blackmail her in episode 1. Most people chose that option, but I never regret mine.

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    I'm really impressed about the way Telltale turned her character around, I mean, I knew that they would, but they did it so damn well. I'd consider Rebecca a friend now, sure. I actually like her more than Nick now. Can't really blame her for how she was acting in Episode 1(well... you can a little), I'm glad that I didn't blackmail her.

  • No. As long as she keeps acting this friendly, I don't have a problem with her anymore.

  • At first when she started yelling at me about opening the door (even though I didn't) I thought "I still really hate you". But when she said sorry and as the episode went on, I forgave her. She even asked if Clem was alright when the Walkers attacked the lodge.

  • I actually like her now. She's really improved, and even though this complete 180 is a tad strange, I like it. I'm glad I chose not to blackmail her back in Episode 1. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rebecca is pretty nice.

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    Yes, now with Kenny around I hope there's still some salt licks lying around in whatever supermarket Carver used as a base.

    I hope those blocks in the background are good enough to crush skulls

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  • I was pleasantly surprised at her change in attitude, she is far more likable now. It was nice to see her apologize to Clem in front of everybody, she doesn't see like a bad person honestly.

  • They're cinderblocks. They ain't made of salt, but I think Kenny can improvise...

    Yes, now with Kenny around I hope there's still some salt licks lying around in whatever supermarket Carver used as a base. I hope those blocks in the background are good enough to crush skulls

  • I wanted to hate her. I planned on hating her. I was invested in my hatred of her. And I was doing a good job of hating her. She apologized and I was just thinking 'Fuck you leave me alone.' But, then she asked my opinion on baby names... I don't know why but that just struck me....

  • I actually would consider her complete turn around bad writing. To set up a character so solidly with certain characteristics and then to just completely abandon the traits is idiotic imo. I like her new character more,but you weren't supposed to like the original character. It's like if we saw Nate shoot those people then wall outside and be all 'oops, my bad, won't happen again.' (And continue his new characteristics from that point forward.)

    It just doesn't really make sense to me.

    Rock114 posted: »

    I actually like her now. She's really improved, and even though this complete 180 is a tad strange, I like it. I'm glad I chose not to blackmail her back in Episode 1. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rebecca is pretty nice.

  • I still don't really care for her...(Am I the only one who said no thanks to the tummy touching?) Now that the group likes Clem, she doesn't' want to be the odd (wo)man out so she was just trying to make up for how much of a jerk to Clem she was in the beginning. The group is in this mess because of Rebecca. If she wasn't there I doubt Carver would be so adamant to find them. I would like to find out the back story about how she got pregnant with Carver's baby and why Alvin doesn't seem to mind....

    She should deal with the consequences and not bring the others down with her!

  • Alvin doesn't know, which is a big part of why Rebecca is so stressed.

  • I think we were meant to think that Ep1 Rebecca was Stressed Rebecca and Ep2 Rebecca was the True Rebecca, but her sudden personality change makes me think she might need a shrink.

  • I dont hate her anymore I got Alvin killed. :(

  • I am so surprised i like Rebecca now, wtf did I just wrote...

  • Even after asking "So who's baby it is" and her snapping at me.. She liked me, touched the stomach and all she's cool now.. Still I don't understand why she's opening up too you and when Alvin comes boom she's someone else.. I just wanna know the whole story.. Everyone lived in mine that could die So yea Nick and Alvin lived :)

  • At first, I was determined to hate Rebecca. I couldnt do it, she apologised and I couldnt just say no in the part where you hear the baby. I decided to give her a second chance. In the end, Alvin died (in my playthrough) I could hear Carlos shouting "Dont look, Rebecca. Dont look" while a crying Rebecca shouted his husband name. I felt so bad for her.

  • Well, she didn't trust her at first and her hormones are still all over the place. She's gained more trust in Clementine and again, her hormones are giving her mood swings.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    I actually would consider her complete turn around bad writing. To set up a character so solidly with certain characteristics and

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    GOUSTTTT posted: »

    I am so surprised i like Rebecca now, wtf did I just wrote...

  • Actually, I think he does know. It's clear that they still love each other, but from what Rebecca said, it seems like Alvin is infertile. I would be willing to bet that Rebecca became pregnant with Carvers son not so much from a lust affair, but because she really wanted a baby. I think Alvin knows but doesn't want to say anything because he knows how much Rebecca wanted a baby, and when you love someone...

    But of course I could totally be wrong, just a theory :)

    Alvin doesn't know, which is a big part of why Rebecca is so stressed.

  • K0t0K0t0 Banned

    My gosh I knew there would be atleast one loon apologist who would retort "zomg not bipolar writing it was hormones herp derp"

    Deceptio posted: »

    Well, she didn't trust her at first and her hormones are still all over the place. She's gained more trust in Clementine and again, her hormones are giving her mood swings.

  • yeah I know, Damn trolls T_T

  • She also was angry and yelling at Kenny and company when they got to the lodge. She was scared Clem was a scout of Carver's, and thought she was bit by a walker. Once she found out neither of these were true she apologized. I'd say that initial bitchiness and distrust is in her character, not permanent hatred based on incorrect first impressions.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    I actually would consider her complete turn around bad writing. To set up a character so solidly with certain characteristics and

  • K0t0K0t0 Banned

    Its George's child not Carver's, c'mon
    Rebecca hates Carver too much to sleep with him, and Alvin killed a 'George', Alvin doesnt seem the type to just kill someone for no reason (ironic tho that Alvin calls what Nivk did murder). Im pretty sure it was George who fooled around with Rebecca, though the extent to how far Alvin knows is questionable.

    George is then close enough to Carver to be considered his family

    Amarantha posted: »

    Actually, I think he does know. It's clear that they still love each other, but from what Rebecca said, it seems like Alvin is inf

  • edited March 2014

    Uh, I've been saying it since when back episode one got released. I've always defended her on the hate threads.

    I take it you've never actually dealt with pregnancy and the hormones and mood swings it encompasses occasionaly. I knew from experience what it can do, that's why I was willing to give her a chance.

    K0t0 posted: »

    My gosh I knew there would be atleast one loon apologist who would retort "zomg not bipolar writing it was hormones herp derp"

  • I know, right?! I could not contain all the feels.

    The way she was crying and screaming his name... damnit... I just had to rewind the scene.

  • well what would YOU guys do? Try to picture you or someone you loved so much pregnant and somebody chasing after her/you and trying to kill you while at that? Wouldn't you be mean at anybody who comes up out of the blue asking for help? How we saw bonnie at first, is how THEY saw clementine.

    Everything changes when you actually think. I would've been just like rebecca if I were her. Imagine you were lee and like the stranger was still following us - and all of the sudden a guy randomly appears asking for help and etc?

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    Yeah, I feel like she is one of the more likeable characters now. They did a good job in making her feel human, rather than the cheap Larry-clone she was portrayed as in episode 1.

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    I think what mainly threw me initially was her saying 'Clem' instead of 'Clementine' . But much like Luke that may just be her over-compensating for the initial behavior. I like her a lot better now but we probably haven't seen the last of mean Bec (she warns us of such, I think).

    What I really appreciated, is them acknowledging that she would be putting a drain on the group's food resources and how that makes her feel self conscious and a burden. And also that she's likely feeling as isolated being the only woman of the group as Sarah is being the only girl.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    I actually would consider her complete turn around bad writing. To set up a character so solidly with certain characteristics and

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    I see your point, but I think it mostly points to Carver being the father as he has made some very 'affectionate' gestures to Rebecca, even after she betrayed the group. Yeah, he wants them all back, but he's been especially delicate with Rebecca and even said to her that they need to raise 'their family in a safe place'.* He could possibly be referring to everyone in that sentence, but in context it seems he is aiming it towards Rebecca. Honestly, I think it's too early to say for certain that it isn't Carver's, it's definitely been hinted at multiple times that it's carvers baby, not George's. Carver considers them all his family which he clearly states in the preview for ep 3.

    We have no clue what their relationship with Carver in the past was other than that they decided to leave him later on, it could have happened before she started to dislike Carver. We know too little to make definite decisions on who it belongs to. But you brought up a good point, it could very well be this George guy's, but hey, maybe George tried to stop them from escaping and that's why Alvin killed him.

    Perhaps it is too hasty to assume it's Carver's, though. But I'm still not very convinced otherwise, there is just too much we don't know to be certain.I'm definitely considering your theory though,because it does make sense, and there's little to fully refute it with.

    *Edit: Going back he said "Rebecca, our baby needs to be raised in a safer place than this."

    K0t0 posted: »

    Its George's child not Carver's, c'mon Rebecca hates Carver too much to sleep with him, and Alvin killed a 'George', Alvin doesn

  • edited March 2014

    She trusts her more after one day.... A day that leaves one dead and one mia. More terrible character arcing.

    Deceptio posted: »

    Well, she didn't trust her at first and her hormones are still all over the place. She's gained more trust in Clementine and again, her hormones are giving her mood swings.

  • She was still b itchy after Clem was proven not bitten, that point is moot. She trusts her after a day? Where one of them dies and one of them goes off the deep end? How exactly did she earn that must trust? Must have been when she let carver into their house.

    She also was angry and yelling at Kenny and company when they got to the lodge. She was scared Clem was a scout of Carver's, and t

  • Sorry for the spelling and overall grammatical errors, my phone is nuts...

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    She was still b itchy after Clem was proven not bitten, that point is moot. She trusts her after a day? Where one of them dies and

  • Doesn't she straight up say she was projecting on Clem though? I mean if she legitimately didn't trust her I see your point but most of what she throws at Clem actually applies to herself (secret connection to Carver, draining the group resources). I guess it doesn't bother me as much since both Alvin and Pete explain she's not quite herself or putting up a front. Plus the bathroom scene.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    She trusts her more after one day.... A day that leaves one dead and one mia. More terrible character arcing.

  • edited March 2014

    Np, typing on a phone is a pain I know. Yeah she was bitchy, but at the beginning of the episode she asks you to help find Alvin, and he turns up alive. Then like Clem said in my playthrough, Carver was coming in either way. Then there's Carlos thanking her for hiding Sarah, and you helping Nick find Pete's body if you saved him. Then after the five day jump you find some food for them, and help Luke clear the bridge. It made sense to me, because you were making yourself useful.

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Sorry for the spelling and overall grammatical errors, my phone is nuts...

  • I must admit my hatred of her has evaporated almost completely now and will feel saddened if she dies in episode 3. Which according to the slide seems likely.

  • I forgive her. People act irrational in these situations.

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