snow has transformed into arrongant and bitchy woman at first i liked her a lot and used to admire her .... .... i really want to play the game as bigby but now i am playing as snow's assistant or taking nice decisions to please her :-(
Yeah but snow always did have that streak in her, in the comics she has that darker arrogant/ controlling nature. It's just Bigby ignores her and slowly changes her into the character that we all like. Don't forget that this is set before the comics so Bigby hasn't influenced her as much yet.
Why? She wasn't bitchy, she was assertive.
Seriously, she was raped by seven dwarves and now crane has fantasies of her with prostitutes. That is a real traumatic experience. She has right to be mad at crane and make decisions and be impatient. This guy is a complete creep.
In my opinion she was already a great character in the comics, and now she's even better. That episode made me love her much more.
May I remind you, it's YOUR choice. You don't NEED to make nice decisions for Snow. Nothing happens until later in the comics anyway so you aren't going to get with her or anything.
You're the sheriff, you aren't Snow's assistant.
That's simply your opinion that you are.
I don't thinks he arrogant at all, she has confidence sure but I don't think she's arrogant.
PS: If Snow was a man, no one would be complaining about 'his' attitude lol.
I think there is something in what u say , she has became a little more bossy , which i didn't 100% liked .
She doesn't agree with your decisions , like for example she orders you to burn the tree and if don't do that or hire the witch she gets mad , then in the final chapter she says that you have to listen to her orders since she is your " new boss" .
oh ... waiting for that change
i know i am the sheriff but 75% of players choose their decisions carefully to please snow and to proove that he is not the same big bad wolf but she always reminds him about his cruel acts everytime and makes him regret .... which is like torturing him in an indirect way
these lines " i am not yous to loose " and "i am not your colleague i am your boss" are the most painfull lines in the game
Well, she IS Bigby's boss, and she isn't dating him, so she was telling the truth in both instances.
I was pretty sure they were colleagues. When she demands Bigby burn the tree and Bigby didn't do it, his justification was that she wasn't his boss yet. As soon as he said that my natural instinct was to undermine her imminent authority. I saved the tree and ripped the twin's throat out. I think it's my aversion to authority but I'm going back and replaying again next weekend and going to make it a point to do everything exactly the opposite to annoy her.
no you are wrong dude they are colleagues under crane's authority .. she can't take crane's position ..
Yeah, she can. She was directly under him and now he's been fired. She just moved up, and evidence points to the fact that he wasn't doing any work to begin with. Snow runs the office while he gets massaged by prostitutes.
Snow was subservient to Crane in episode one and she decided then that she wasn't going to be his errand girl anymore. Bigby supports her in this, that's why she feels comfortable to throw her weight around a little with him. Also, she has has a lot to deal with, the murders and Crane's obsession with her, reminding her of some terrible times in her past. Give her a break.
ok good theory
you are absolutely right
Yeah, I read some scenes of the comic. I REALLY don't like that new nature of her. I don't know why, but because of this I am really unsure if I want to buy the comic anymore.
I don't think it's a theory but a fact, you have unquestionable evidence.
If thats the reason you choose not to read the comics, you'll really be missing out. There's a lot more to it than a few moments of Snow being not so nice.
Hm, I think I am going to try it out. I really like the game and I hope, that the comic will be something similar to it.
I'll try to explain it without spoiling. Snow White is overemotional, to the point of being self-righteous. 95% of the time it's about her past, and the other 5% she doesn't know yet concerns Bigby. That's the most basic explanation there is.
yes i agree with you but every one who played 3rd episode got pissed off by her actions ... even you i think
every one hate boss ie ichabod crane .... i don't want snow to be the boss bcoz i like her very much
Saying everyone is always an exaggeration. Saying nearly everyone that didn't read the comics I would agree with you.
I know you didn't read the comics so I'll only tell you what you are concerned about. Everyone except for Bluebeard will like Snow being the boss.
Nah, I don't see how shes been bitchy. In most instances she simply wants to avoid conflict and help her fellow fables. She insists we burn the tree because it's personal for her, this is the witch that made it possible for Crane to live out his sick and twisted fantasies. Sure that makes her a little biased, but wouldn't you be? I still didn't do it, but I certainly understood why she felt so strongly. I didn't mind her reminding us she's the boss in the end, because if someone doesn't keep me (thus Bigby) in check to a certain degree, theres nothing to stop me from becoming an all-out loose cannon. That would NOT be good for Fabletown.
As people have pointed out, you don't have to mold your decisions around what she wants. Equally as important, she doesn't have to do what you want, either.
"If snow was a man, no one would be complaining about 'his' attitude."
Well, at least one person would. I would and I'm a woman. I'd probably call a guy a "d*ck" if they were barking orders at Bigby like that. lol. I don't think it's just because she's a woman. She really annoyed me when she ORDERED me (her words) to burn down Aunty Greenleaf's tree. That just did not sit right with me. It was cruel and unnecessary. It was as if she didn't care about how people were struggling to afford glamours. She also doesn't seem to respect Bigby's office. He's the sheriff and she's a secretary. He ultimately makes the call on how to handle the tree. It's not even illegal, it's just frowned upon to buy black market glamours or to get glamours of other fables. I also don't like how she just gave away evidence to Holly without consulting Bigby first. It's unprofessional. She complains too much in the first episode about not doing anything and it seems like she always wants to make everything about her when it isn't. I have mixed feelings about her. Sometimes I like her, like when she talks to TJ, but other times she can be a real pain in the rear. Just my opinion, obviously.
I think she's arrogant and would say so regardless of what genitalia she possessed. If Bigby tells her she isn't his boss, she specifically orders Bigby to burn the tree again anyways, despite not being his superior.
I liked Snow in the beginning, but as more episodes have been released, I've found myself liking her a lot less because she's insensitive, arrogant, and unpleasant to be around.
it was a shock to see snow act this way, i haven't read the comics though so am pretty much going in twau blind.
but i kind of understood she wasn't getting anywhere with greenleaf and she couldn't ask bigby to wolf out on her ass. so yeah lets threaten her income that'll get results :S
She is not arrogant. She made herself very strong and along with that she became convincing as well as aggressively assertive and determined to do what she wants. She cares about Faith, Holly, Lawrence, Lily, and most of all Bigby. Bigby won't change Snow's mind, Snow only calms down when Bigby proves she's wrong.
That's lame dude. You kno she sounds like a bitch when she said those lines.
Jeez, what's with the sexism? I think she's been showing a meaner side lately, but I don't think she has a certain role to fill as a woman. If she were a man (or any other sex, for that matter) I would think the same thing about her actions. I still like her most of the time, but she's getting more and more acerbic and vicious, especially in the case of Aunty Greenleaf and her tree. But what sex she is doesn't factor in my opinion of her, and it neither should it in yours. That kind of antiquated prejudice is just uncool, and you should reevaluate the importance of gender. You might find that it doesn't matter all that much.
Quite true. Still, burning Greenleafs tree is the wrong call, and the only reason Snow wanted to do it was because she was righteously angry about Crane. But she was taking it out on the wrong person. If she had her way, an innocent witch that sold glamours at affordable prices would be out of business, and worse, out of house and home. All because Ms. White was angry about an unrelated thing. Bigby (as played by me) wouldn't have any of that, so he went against orders and did the right thing.
It's her strong/defensive and darker side which is always triggered by someone else. In the cases in the game, Snow's defensive/strong side was in the line "I'm not yours to lose!" which was triggered by the fact Lily was glamoured to look like her. The darker side "burn down the tree" was triggered by Crane through your words which you couldn't avoid.
I've never really seen Snow as bitchy or arrogant I'll admit she does become aggressive at times but she has her reasons ( her past).
The arguments I've heard about her being arrogant always tend to ignore the positives she's shown during the game for example how gently she dealt with toad junior she even shows genuine concern especially if you don't go to toads first and she mentions being worried about the bruises on the kids arm. Another example the cab ride over to the bar where she's chatting to Bigby opening her self up to him about being frustrated with the way things are run and showing affection to him by asking him to be careful.
Yes those are in episode 1 but there are examples in the next episode as well like Holly finding out her sister was dead and Snow letting Holly vent at her saying it should of been snow that died plus she did every thing she could to help make it easier for Holly by personally taking her down to the woodlands to get and body and in episode 3 even gave an eulogy which to me showed she genuinely cares about the fable community.
Having played the game as both a Nice Bigby as well as kind of a jerk I honestly felt most of the time she was respectful to Bigby yeah there was that line about I'm not yours top lose but she did apologize after that which again people fail to acknowledge plus she was up all night helping with the investigation by bringing Toad and his son in which made it easier for Bigby and she was bound to be tired and well angry after finding out some one was glamored to be like her.
As for the Aunty Greenleaf situation she had only found out the crane was stealing funds to hire a prostitute to play out his sex fantasies of Snow which would of brought up a lot of horrible memories about how the dwarfs abused her so her actions with Aunty greenleaf are understandable since in a way she helped Crane with those fantasies.
I completely agree with you. I didn't feel like she was being bitchy or arrogant at all. She was just trying to do her job. The only moment I got iffy with her was with the tree situation since I clearly felt she was overreacting a bit too much, but I also thought her reaction was a natural one to have given what has happened. I mean, two people have died and it's due to glamours and now we find out that this lady is doing the glamours and illegally? Snow had every right to demand for that tree to be burned. I may have not felt it was the right choice but I could definitely understand her reasoning behind it.
I just felt that she was acting how any human being would act given the circumstances. No need to call her bitchy or arrogant because of it.
Also, I don't understand that out of bitchyness and arrogance we're more concerned about Snow. What about Bluebeard? Frog? Gren? Crane? Georgie? Holly? (though with her it's more understandable).
Haven't they all been way more bitchy and arrogant compared to Snow?
yep you are right i didn't read the comics
yes finally a sane reply .. thank god , gender doesn't matter it's only about her behaviour
i want snow to trust bigby that he is changed .. that's all
dude gender doesn't matter here .. don't be rude against woman
people who read the comics can understand the depth of the charachters .. i just shared my thoughts on this episode ... no offense