Woodsman pawned his axe

Hey folks, like most people I've been replaying old episodes for missed clues and I believe I might have found a few important details.

In ep.1, when you ask the Magic Mirror of the whereabouts of the Woodman's location it shows him stumbling towards the Pawn shop as seen in the preview from ep.4 with its distinctive neon sign. You don't see him enter because of a "closed" sign hanging from the front entrance. But he more than likely sold his magic axe there, some reasons might be because he is a "low life" as expressed by Grendel and he most definitely needed the money.

Jack is connected as well because as we know, he "sometimes" works there, and the preview from ep.4 has led me to believe he must've been the one the Woodsman sold the axe to or Jack then went on to sell the axe to Bloody Mary. Thus, leading to the scene in the preview for ep.4 of Bigby questioning Jack and the Woodsman.

Also, on a side note, I strongly believe that it does not matter anymore who murdered Faith and Lily. It is clear that killing Fables doesn't have any reprecussions if at all. For example, ××EP.3 SPOILERS××, Bigby murdering Tweedle Dum (if that's the option you picked) would require the infamous Big Bad Wolf to take a big bad plunge down the Witching Well for not giving Dum a fair trial. We know Bigby won't get prosecuted since he's our protagonist but it just shows that homocide isn't a big deal. Furthermore, with Fables like Dum and Dee running around amock with shotguns, a murder should not be considered as something so mind boggling. I think the murders were only there to lead the audience into a much more contrived storyline and I would urge fans of TWAU to ask themselves: should finding the murderer be at the top of everyone's priority list for what is going on in the TWAU universe?

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  • edited April 2014

    That's a good theory, but I have to disagree with you in one thing; Bigby is the sheriff of fabletown and he killed tweedle dum in self-defence. It's different than some psychopath cutting people's heads off. Finding the murderer is the main plot in this game.

  • I see where you're coming from but here's my counter argument, Bigby is pretty unstoppable when under Wolf mode, and killing Dum seems like an act of ruthlessness against someone who is not much of a threat. And as Snow says, "You kind of enjoy it... when things go wrong. Because it give you an excuse to... you know... stop pretending?" I have a feeling she knows that Bigby has some dark urges that are influenced by his past.

    I still do, however, strongly disagree that finding the murderer is an entegral plot anymore. I feel like it is more of a sub-plot at present. There are simply too many blatant suspects to blame for murder that if TTG were to focus on, it would lead to some dull episodes. As seen at the end of episode 3, Bloody Mary is a hair's thickness away from chopping Bigby's head from his body. And if she had chopped his head off, what then? There are two murderers? It would be far too complicated. And with 2 episodes left, if the murderer is someone of greater calibur than Bloody Mary or any of the other suspects, it would feel drawn out and seem out of place from a story telling point of view. Any thoughts?

    That's a good theory, but I have to disagree with you in one thing; Bigby is the sheriff of fabletown and he killed tweedle dum in

  • edited April 2014

    I see your point too but here comes my counter arguement; Even if Bloody mary would have chopped bigby's head off, it's still different because then everyone would know who killed Bigby and they would have just arrested her at some point. No one knows who the murderer is so we still have to stop him\her even if every fable starts to kill each other. Every criminal shall be stopped and taken behind the bars.

    There might be some grammar mistakes n my text so sorry about them.

    bilboteabag posted: »

    I see where you're coming from but here's my counter argument, Bigby is pretty unstoppable when under Wolf mode, and killing Dum s

  • I guess its possible, but I still have some doubts. Was someone watching Faith for awhile to kill her that quickly? Remember when Bigby asked the mirror to find Woody, Faith was already dead. So that does not matter.

  • This is a pretty wild theory and most definitely farfetched but I'm thinking that Bloody Mary teleported to Faith via here little compact makeup mirror. In the Book of Fables entry it states that she has a 'strange ability to use any reflective surface as a portal, effectively short-cutting space and time'. This way, Bloody Mary probably carried out her murder and took the picture from Faith that the Crooked man was after. The same reason is what possibly led to Crane destroying the Magic Mirror: to not be found by Bloody Mary. However, I won't ignore the fact that there is an abundance of reflective surfaces throughout the world virtually EVERYWHERE! Thus rendering Bloody Mary pretty overpowered. Thoughts?

    pcharl01 posted: »

    I guess its possible, but I still have some doubts. Was someone watching Faith for awhile to kill her that quickly? Remember when Bigby asked the mirror to find Woody, Faith was already dead. So that does not matter.

  • That didnt look like the Woodsman's axe to me. I thought his axe was more ornate.

  • I agree that every criminal needs to face justice but I am about 90% sure the killer is Bloody Mary and the mastermind behind everything is the Crooked Man. However, I thought because of her arrogance, she would have boasted that she definitely is the killer in the heat of the moment but she didn't, which is strange. I might be wrong and the murderer could be much worse than she is, possibly. And no problems man, I make grammatical errors all the time.

    I see your point too but here comes my counter arguement; Even if Bloody mary would have chopped bigby's head off, it's still diff

  • I thought one of the Tweedles took the axe when they were looking around his apartment.

  • Well it has the druid symbol on it and a pointy bit at the back of the axe, exactly matching the Woodsman's.

    KCohere posted: »

    That didnt look like the Woodsman's axe to me. I thought his axe was more ornate.

  • A good point and I thought about it for a while but the fact that the Woodsman or any of the characters never mention that his axe is missing led me to think that he'd departed with it willingly. Also, one of the Tweedles even threatened Toad in order to get something he was after but to no avail.

    MindWeb posted: »

    I thought one of the Tweedles took the axe when they were looking around his apartment.

  • I bet you will be surprised.

    bilboteabag posted: »

    I agree that every criminal needs to face justice but I am about 90% sure the killer is Bloody Mary and the mastermind behind ever

  • I thought Woody's axe was prettier. I guess we'll see.

    bilboteabag posted: »

    Well it has the druid symbol on it and a pointy bit at the back of the axe, exactly matching the Woodsman's.

  • Murders are a big deal in Fabletown, a very big deal. They dont happen very often and they are severely punished. We havent yet seen the repercussions of what Bigby did to the Tweedle so we cant judge just yet.

  • It would be AWESOME if Detective Brannigan came after Bigby in ep.4 after finding Tweedle Dum's body which leads to Bigby getting tracked down by multiple police officers getting him cornered and him WOLFING OUT in the end of ep.5 similar to An American Werewolf in London!!

    KCohere posted: »

    Murders are a big deal in Fabletown, a very big deal. They dont happen very often and they are severely punished. We havent yet seen the repercussions of what Bigby did to the Tweedle so we cant judge just yet.

  • Well, I think it's safe to say that's not going to happen, lol. Whatever investigation is going to be internal. They might bring King Cole back for this.

    bilboteabag posted: »

    It would be AWESOME if Detective Brannigan came after Bigby in ep.4 after finding Tweedle Dum's body which leads to Bigby getting

  • Yeah it would be goofy if that happened. I don't really have much hope for King Cole if he returns. In the comics, minor spoilers he's shown to be pretty useless and out of touch with the community.

    KCohere posted: »

    Well, I think it's safe to say that's not going to happen, lol. Whatever investigation is going to be internal. They might bring King Cole back for this.

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