Possible Theory about Mary

edited May 2014 in The Wolf Among Us

I've been looking at photos and reading some of the discussions lately and I've come up with a theory that Bloody Mary might be the real Rachel.

"Preposterous!" You might say.

But let me lay down what I've gathered. I looked at their photos:

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Is it not coincedental that they look extremely similar? If not, exactly the same? Maybe Rachel wasn't killed in the homelands! Why would Telltale put Rachel in at all and have Aunty Greenleaf talk about her if we aren't going to see more about it? There has to be an underlying reason for it. There could be a few possible situations.

  1. Maybe if you offer Greenleaf the job on the 13th floor, it'll end up in Mary sparing you later on.

  2. Maybe Greenleaf doesn't know Mary is the real Rachel and they find out later with Bigby's help.

Post your own thoughts and other possible outcomes if this theory were to be true!

And be respectful!

Comments

  • Oooo very interesting !

    But if u offers greenleaf the job she's doesn't accept it either way she's happy helping out those who cnt afford 13th floor stuff. If she is her daughter I'd say greenleaf doesn't know about her being alive. I mean I just don't see it AG seems like a good person while BM just seems to like to shoot people. Hopefully it'll be revealed soon

  • edited May 2014

    I've thought about Mary being the Red-Headed guy. If you look, he has the same trademark freckles too. See 13:13 - 13:21 below. I never thought about Mary being Rachel though. Greenleaf does seem to be too old to have mothered a child Rachel's age; Mary's age would fit better.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qfO1yao3220
    

    Only argument with Mary being Rachel: If you look at the picture in Greenleaf's apartment: Greenleaf has a picture with Rachel. They both appear the same age. However, it could be someone glamoured to look like Rachel for the picture.

    I am not convinced, but I think you could be on to something. Great spot!

  • Not to be rude but someone already beat you too it

  • Not to be rude, but it doesn't really matter. Unless, of course, the OP heard it from the someone who beat him/her to it and claimed it as their own.
    Yeah, it'd be very disingenuous of the poster to have copied the person who said it first. But I hadn't heard about it. Reposts are okay, but please give credit to the person who first came up with the idea. I don't think the poster copied. "And be respectful" doesn't seem like something a thieving troll might say.

    zeke10 posted: »

    Not to be rude but someone already beat you too it

  • Not to be rude, but it doesn't really matter. Unless, of course, the OP heard it from the someone who beat him/her to it and claim

  • edited May 2014

    When I played the game the 1st time, didn't think anything of it. Then my friend played it and said it was the detective from the 2nd ep; she said they look so similar, except for the hair. I went back and played that ep again-they DO look similar in a weird way. Also, he mentioned it looked like her eyes were changing when Bigby was beginning to anger her...it MAY have just been the way the tv was. This is just my theory. XD

  • I saw tht too there was like a gleam in here eye sorta thing but I didn't think much of it. U may be on to something
    pudding_pie posted: »

    When I played the game the 1st time, didn't think anything of it. Then my friend played it and said it was the detective from the

  • Y'know, I've always wondered when someone was going to post a topic about this, after seeing many similar theories by previous commenters. Good job, Em! Hopefully Telltale won't take this twist away from us, if they were planning on executing it in the first place!
  • I've read the comics and although Bloody Mary and Greenleaf are not characters in there, there's a wide range of reasons that Greenleaf could've been old even When Rachel was young. Most of the witches take the form of old ladies and have been that way for centuries. It'l likely that Greenleaf either adopted Rachel or had her when she looked young. Frau Totenkinder (A major witch from the books) Can actually make herself younger again at any time she wishes. There's another witch, Ozma, who chooses to stay in the form of a 10 year old girl. They are so powerful that they can manipulate their own ages and I think that Greenleaf chose to stay in her old age, despite having a young daughter. Frau Totenkinder (Before the adversary took over the lands) Actually adopted Rapunzel as an old lady and kept her as her daughter. So it's possible that if Mary was Rachel, Greenleaf's complexion didn't change because she has looked that old for a long, long time.

    I've thought about Mary being the Red-Headed guy. If you look, he has the same trademark freckles too. See 13:13 - 13:21 below. I

  • Yeah, I hope not! I really want it to be true but we will see. It would give Bloody Mary more of a purpose in being there I think, since it gives more integrated ties to the investigation other than being the Crooked man's hitman (Or in this case, woman)

    Y'know, I've always wondered when someone was going to post a topic about this, after seeing many similar theories by previous com

  • edited May 2014
    Yes, you're right. Fables do age very slowly too. Resemblance-wise, you have a pretty good argument.

    Still, I feel like Greenleaf was being forced to do something she didn't want to do. She wanted to be protected from whatever was "going on". Also, she claims the tree is the only thing that allows her to afford her apartment. If her daughter were Mary, (who works for the cooked man), money wouldn't be an issue. Unless, you assume that Mary doesn't like Greenleaf.

    We'll have to just wait and see.
    EMMYPESS posted: »

    I've read the comics and although Bloody Mary and Greenleaf are not characters in there, there's a wide range of reasons that Gree

  • Very nice theory! I am really supportive of what you have said. It does make sense as well.
  • edited May 2014
    She probably was a ghostly apparition before, more like! Call it a hunch! It'd be insane if that were one of her powers!
    EMMYPESS posted: »

    Yeah, I hope not! I really want it to be true but we will see. It would give Bloody Mary more of a purpose in being there I think,

  • Wow nice theory
  • Mary sparing you? As soon as Ep.3 was over, i knew Bigby would kill that bitch.
  • Wow they do look alike. I never noticed it. Interesting....
  • Mary had a little axe

    Little axe

    Little axe

    Mary had a little axe

    It's steel was black as death!

    IDK why I did this. :D
  • Lol XP

    Mary had a little axe Little axe Little axe Mary had a little axe It's steel was black as death! IDK why I did this. :D

  • Good thing I didnt burn greenleafs tree then cause Mary is dead in my books
  • ...I'm scared.

    Mary had a little axe Little axe Little axe Mary had a little axe It's steel was black as death! IDK why I did this. :D

  • edited May 2014
    I guess you could say....*there's something about Mary.*
  • Would being the daughter of a witch xplain y she has magic resistence? Reading her entry in the BoF made me wonder why they mentioned it... maybe to hint her ties with AG. Either this or it will come up as a significant factor in future events like when we face her... if we face her, which is very likely.
  • I see what you did there :)

    I guess you could say....*there's something about Mary.*

  • I just noticed Mary has freckles like Rachel does as well :3 (a bit difficult to see in the picture though) the resemblance is rather uncanny.
  • Yeah, thats what I'm saying! I noticed they had the same hair color (Although Mary dyed a piece red) And the same eye color. Even though Greenleaf was old when Rachel was born, it would make sense that Rachel aged because all the Fables have been in fabletown for centuries. Witches mostly like to take on the complextion of old helpless ladies (Although there are a couple of witches on the 13th floor that decided to stay young.) Greenleaf could've stayed the same while Rachel grew to her adult size and stayed looking young like her early to mid-twenties. (Assuming Mary is Rachel.)
    xValkyx posted: »

    I just noticed Mary has freckles like Rachel does as well :3 (a bit difficult to see in the picture though) the resemblance is rather uncanny.

  • edited May 2014
    Holy crud, you're right.

    Ugh, that's going to be awkward to explain to Snow. And Greenleaf, depending on whether Bigby figures it out before or after killing BM.
  • They look similar, but in wich fable are Rachel from?
    EMMYPESS posted: »

    I've read the comics and although Bloody Mary and Greenleaf are not characters in there, there's a wide range of reasons that Gree

  • She is supposed to be Aunty Greenleaf`s lost daughter. Rachel was created specifically for the game.

    They look similar, but in wich fable are Rachel from?

  • And in wich fable are Aunty from? The little red riding hood?
    nusi2 posted: »

    She is supposed to be Aunty Greenleaf`s lost daughter. Rachel was created specifically for the game.

  • Yes she does, you just have to ask her 2 times i think.. can't remember how exactly..
    Mclovesth posted: »

    Oooo very interesting ! But if u offers greenleaf the job she's doesn't accept it either way she's happy helping out those who

  • You could actually be right. I was sceptical the first time I heard this, but now I've realized how similar they look.
  • She is from "Aunty Greenleaf and the White Deer".

    And in wich fable are Aunty from? The little red riding hood?

  • edited May 2014
    Interesting take on it but I'm doubtful. Ill be very surprised if it is
  • This is a goat song!! The nightmares are now real... XD D=

    Mary had a little axe Little axe Little axe Mary had a little axe It's steel was black as death! IDK why I did this. :D

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