Graphics don't matter...or do they?

I just felt like expressing my opinions on graphics in video games, including some from Telltale.

You know how people keep giving some games shit for having graphics that don't look like real life? I think that was like the first thing my cousin said when I tried to get him to play The Walking Dead, although he didn't say the graphics were shit, just that they looked bad compared to The Last Of Us. I really hate it when people say a game sucks just because they think the graphics in what are considered excellent games look horrible compared to AAA titles like GTA, Battlefield, Call of Duty, and even The Last Of Us.

Of course when judging games, gameplay should be the first priority since it's called a GAME. But this doesn't mean that game designers can't take advantage of the idea and make the game look as visually appealing as possible. I think THIS is what should matter when it comes to judging graphics. Not if the designs look like real life, but if the designs are actually nice to look at and add to the tone and atmosphere of the game.

I'm not one of those people who say that graphics don't matter because honestly, it's insulting to visual artists who make the game the way it is. I judge graphics based on detail, lighting shading, animation, character design, colour, and basically just how well the visuals work with the game. I've only played three games from Telltale: both Seasons of The Walking Dead and The Wolf Among Us. The graphics in these games, when you really think about, while cartoonish do really really work with the games. All three of these have really nice graphics when you think about it.

The Wolf Among Us, IN MY OPINION, has the best cel-shaded graphics I've ever seen in game. I've seen Okami and Borderlands and they both look good. But as someone who loves films with a noir style, The Wolf Among Us wins hands down.

I liked how in Season One, the lack of vibrant colours reflected how all the characters lost everything and everyone that made them happy. In Season Two, you could say that the much more colourful visuals could represent how the survivors are just accepting the world is what it is and now they have a chance to start over. Honestly though, I think the graphics in Season One matched the tone a lot better than the graphics in Season Two. Not to say that Season Two doesn't look brilliant because it does.

If Telltale really did want to make games with life-like visuals, they would have especially considering how much they've made thanks to The Walking Dead. I really think this cel-shaded artwork they do for their games looks really impressive, and it's kind of their signature style. Honestly, graphics SHOULD matter when it comes to presentation and just how nice the game looks regardless if it's made to look like real-life or made to look like a comic book.

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  • they dont matter too much in a telltale based game

  • edited June 2014

    I'd choose a game with a good story over good graphics any day. But The Walking Dead has both a good story and good graphics. The facial detail for the characters is amazing.

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    For me, I just like playing good games. But fucking Telltale with their insane story-telling spoiled me and now my expectations for games with stories are too high.

    TWD_1992 posted: »

    I'd choose a game with a good story over good graphics any day. But The Walking Dead has both a good story and good graphics. The facial detail for the characters is amazing.

  • Good story + Gameplay > Graphics

    People need to to understand that graphics don't make a game good. Even if it looks close to real life. Unless you're the type of person to indulge how something looks and not how it really plays out

  • edited June 2014

    I think it's more about gameplay because I went back and played Ps1 classics like Crash and they were still awesome but I would never play a game with awful gameplay just because of the graphics

    Saying this it's a package who doesn't love beautiful graphics like beyond two souls, TLOU, AC and bioshock infinite etc you really get more into the experience and feels more real. I'm always just in awe playing a game that mastered both.

    TWD graphics was due to the small budget but it was still really refreshing playing a unique graphic style game one which I since grown to love.

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    My opinion on Graphics and Gameplay ^

  • edited June 2014

    I honestly think the graphics for TWDG and TWAU are amazing. And I like how you brought up the almost bleakness of season 1 of TWDG represents the fading hope of the survivors and season 2's brighter colors and atmospheres (the bridge, the lodge, even Carver's camp - which was depressing and prison-like - had a beautiful purple sky in the background) represent how, over two years into the apocalypse, this world has become reality for the survivors. You can't really compare TWDG/TWAU with TLOU (which also has amazing graphics) because TWDG is supposed to be like a comic book and TLOU is supposed to look that realistic.

  • I don't think at all that the graphics are bad. It's artistically different from what is the norm in the gaming industry, but that what helps it give it's character. I wasn't fond of the graphics at first because I am used to games that don't look like a cartoon, but I have very fond of the graphic style and I don't want it to be changed. To be honest when I first saw TWDG I didn't bother to even check it out because I didn't like how the show turned out (sorry not a big fan of personal drama that can be resolved in one to two episodes vs the three to four that it seems to take). To my thinking: if the game is anything like the show, I don't want play it.

    It wasn't until I saw WeAreTheRomantics on twitch playing season 2 episode 2, at that time, that I had my interest piqued. After that I did a little research and saw the slew of awards given to season 1. Given the awards and its' popularity when I mentioned it to a few friend who were familiar with the game (and their utter horror that I hadn't played it), that I purchased the game. Since then I haven't been disappointed and have easily become amongst my favorite games in years.

    But to be more on topic I will recite an old gaming proverb: playing a video game for the graphics is like watching porn for the story.

  • The grapichs for The Walking Dead are good but there is just so much more potential for the art style.

  • Graphics don't matter. They're nice to have, but they don't matter.

  • edited June 2014

    A lot of high-graphic games are visually striking and beautiful at many times (Notably the giraffe scene in TLOU). But the best looking games to me are the ones that had solid, bright colours. Limbo, Monaco, Team Fortress 2, and most notably, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker. And of course The Wolf Among Us falls into this category.

    And I do like the look of Season 1 more than Season 2. The bleak, gray overtones give it a unique feel.

  • edited June 2014

    Graphics are something important in a game. but they are not the whole game. there must be a balance between all sectors. Writing, gameplay, animation, art direction, etc. .. and if a game has wonderful graphics, but has a poorly written script and bad gameplay, will quickly cease to be interesting.

    I must admit that when I started playing TWD. the "cartoony" graphics don't impress me much (despite knowing that they were so to resemble the HQ). and even took some of my motivation to play. the fact of being a Point-and-Click game also was a barrier for me at the time. I was accustomed to AAA games with stunning graphics and fluid gameplay, like Assassins Creed, Battlefield and The Witcher. however, the well-constructed and captivating script of TWD quickly caught my attention and gradually was surprising me more and more.

    The graphics of TWAU are really good indeed, and give a certain unique charm to the game. I'm very curious to see how will be the graphic style of Game of Thrones. I don't know if cartoony graphics will match very well with the aggressive and realistic atmosphere of George R.R.Martin. But TT always finds a way to surprise us. :)

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    Graphics are something important in a game. but they are not the whole game. there must be a balance between all sectors. Writing,

  • Since I grew up on Gameboy/PS1/PS2 games, I would say that graphics are not what matters. As long as it's not glitchy or unidentifiable. It's all about the story, gameplay, and replay value. It's ironic because the TWD and TWAU are the only games where the graphics meant something to me. The comic-book look is really cool and unique. I don't know why anyone would complain...

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    Ignore.

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    Storyline is the top priority, Then comes gameplay, Then comes graphics. However, If the one of those elements isn't excellently done, The game will be felt as if it was missing something. The Walking Dead's graphics and gameplay fit the theme perfectly, No need to change. It all depends on the lore of the project.

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    My opinion in graphics is that they are not as important as gameplay and story but they shouldn't be ignored either and if they can be made better ,they should (except if the game requires the game to be 8-bit, comic style,etc.) ,now on a Telltale's game i think it's more about the graphic style, than how good they are and the one that they are using now fits just right ,but if they can get better graphics on fututre proyects they should but i don't have any problem if they don't.

  • edited June 2014

    What matters more to me is the art style. You can get away with technically sup-par graphics if you give it some personality, Nintendo are a good example of a big developer that does this a lot. Telltale do it with the exaggerated facial features and the styles mentioned in the OP. Without those features Seasons 1 could have got a much worse reception. It also means the game will age a lot better compared to AAA games (Look how bad GTA 4 looks now)

    What will be interesting is what telltale do with Game of Thrones, since i think its based on the TV series and cartoony graphics wont be as natural a fit for it as they were for TWD, Fables and Borderlands.

  • I think maybe they'll make Game of Thrones look like Jurassic Park: The Game. Except, you know, it actually has choices.

    Graphics are something important in a game. but they are not the whole game. there must be a balance between all sectors. Writing,

  • edited June 2014

    Well, I can play Texts, so yeah. Graphics doesn't matter. :P

    Edit: Now being serious, my priority in a game is story, if the game charm isn't the story I judge the gameplay, see the replay value, if it's fun, how I can play with my friends and etc.

  • Graphics matter, but they don't make or break a game unless they physically make the game to play. Also, I like stylized graphics like The Walking Dead.

  • I don't care if graphics are good or not (Just as long as they aren't ridiculously bad). The story is what I look forward to in most games. If it's not the story, then I play for the gameplay (Multiplayer games)

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    I totally agree with you about TWAU graphics. Remember that scene in Smoke And Mirrors when Bigby had a choice to smash the sign or talk with Georgie? While you have time to choose, you can see how Bigby approaches Georgie that's covering the sign. The light in Pudding'N'Pie on Bigby's body slowly changes from pink to blue. That was a really fascinating scene.

  • Graphics don't matter to me.

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    I much prefer good gameplay and story over fancy graphics, the graphic style for TWD and TWAU really suit them and it would look weird if they had super realistic graphics. I played a puzzle game called Antichamber, it has really simple graphics but i enjoyed it more than some games with AAA style graphics.

  • I grew up with simple Graphics. It started on the SNES for me. Still adore the crap out of them. Telltale delivers not Top Notch Graphics but the Comic Look fits well for WD. In S2 it got a little Update which is even nicer. Not to speak of Wolf.

    And yeah Story and Setting is placed over Graphics. Where do you want to go with a fancy looking Game if anything else is a Letdown? Take Minecraft as an Example. Graphics are outdated and yet it even consumes the Attention of the younger Generation of Gamers.

  • Gameplay is the most important aspect of a game. In the old days of gaming games had shitty graphics and no story, but the gameplay was awesome. All that mattered was if the gameplay was fun or not, and that still remains true. So it goes gameplay, story, graphics. I still breakout my original NES and play The Legend of Zelda about once a year and love it just as much as I do today's games.

  • I agree. And congratulations. You're a f**king moderator now. Damn... I remember you when you're just a tiny community member cries They're growing up so quickly.

    OzzyUK posted: »

    I much prefer good gameplay and story over fancy graphics, the graphic style for TWD and TWAU really suit them and it would look w

  • In the old days of gaming games had shitty graphics and no story

    Debatable. The Snes alone had plenty of Storywise Games: A Link between Worlds, Lufia, Terranigma, Dragon Quest Series,..

    rabscuttle1 posted: »

    Gameplay is the most important aspect of a game. In the old days of gaming games had shitty graphics and no story, but the gamepla

  • Didn't say every game didn't have a story. But many more than today relied only on game play and little to no story. And the majority of the old games that did have a story were very vague. Zelda games were unique in a time when games didn't really have elaborate storylines. By the time SNES came out more and more developers were starting to add deeper story lines to their games. Attari and NES, the two consoles I started on, relied much more on gameplay more than any console after them. 80's gaming was much different than gaming in the 90's to the present. I think gamers that started on Pong, Attari, and NES, will most always place gameplay over both story and graphics.

    Fangster posted: »

    In the old days of gaming games had shitty graphics and no story Debatable. The Snes alone had plenty of Storywise Games: A Link between Worlds, Lufia, Terranigma, Dragon Quest Series,..

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