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Bloody Mary as ultimate villain was very anti-climatic

posted by Corvan on - Viewed by 8.4K users

Did anyone else find it very anti-climatic for the Big Bad Wolf to be almost killed by some chick with a silver bullet?

I get that silver is toxic to werewolves, but why is it that only she can use silver bullets and not anybody else (e.g. the Tweedle twins)? Did no other criminal think of doing that?

Even more troubling was the preview of Episode 5 where it appears like she's attacking him physically. I didn't like that and I think I'm going to wait for the reviews :( I would not have bothered with the series if I knew the ending would be so anti-climatic. Hindsight is 20/20, though and I won't make the mistake with other games - I will wait for the entire season to be completed.

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    CathalOHara Moderator

    Wow, talk about judgemental. The final episode isn't out yet and you're saying you're not going to play it just because you don't like a character?

  • Obviously she's smarter than the Tweedles. Are there bullets made out of silver for real? It would seem like a waste of a valuable resource?

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      Silver bullets are a werewolves main weakness. The only other way to permanently kill Bigby would be decapitation or burning him to ashes.

      • I've heard that Bigby has been frozen and smashed to pieces in the comics. If that's true, wouldn't that make him resistant to decapitation too?

  • I agree, that was so silly... all the Fables in the town knows he's a werewolf :D

  • I think silver bullets are expensive plus in the trailer we can see that Croked man will also use silver bullets againts Bigby.

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    Blind Sniper Moderator

    ... or you could just wait for the Episode to come out before casting any judgement calls.

    Who is to say Telltale wasn't throwing us off in the trailer? Who is to say Bloody Mary is even the "final" villain?

    • I hope you're right. But it's hard to imagine that we won't see Bloody Mary physically manhandling the Big Bad Wolf, when they've shown the first few seconds of that encounter.

      • I didn't really care for that part you're talking about. It's the part where Bloody Mary is still glamoured, but she's brawling with Bigby like she's his equal in strength. I think Bigby could easily subdue her in her glamoured form. However, if you pay close attention to the rest of the trailer, you can see that she takes on her true form, which is probably a lot more dangerous. So, if that's the route they're going, that doesn't bother me. I'm not so sure she's going to be the final battle anyways. There could be a villain we haven't seen yet, some sort of fighter for the Crooked Man. Regardless, the series has been great so far, even if you take out all the Bloody Mary stuff. I think it's been captivating and I can't wait for the finale. I think you may be focusing a little too much on that one aspect of the series and the trailer. Just my opinion.

        • Fables get their strength from the power of the stories and an urban legend that's still told to this day would be very powerful, so I had no trouble believing she's strong enough to tangle with Bigby.

          • I realize it's not real life where girls are much weaker, but it still didn't seem believable. Humpty Dumpty is still spoken about to this day, but nobody would call him powerful.

        • I'm certainly with you on the quality of the rest of the game. I haven't seen a developer get the Adventure game mechanics so right before (I've heard The Walking Dead is similar, but I haven't played it yet).

  • The silver bullet thingy couldve just been a plot hole which is ok in a videogame. But yeah I didnt like that it looks like Bigby is scared while she is beating him up in the trailer. I wouldnt like it if that happened.

    • The thing with the silver bullet is not a plot hole by any means. Silver bullets along with fire can kill Bigby, and I don't know what you mean exactly when you say Bigby looks scared in the trailer. He looks like someone involved in a physical encounter, which he is.

      I don't really have a problem with Mary being the "final" villain, and all the worries that the OP has will be gone by the end of the episode...I guarantee it.

      • Correct. The only way Bigby can withstand them is in his kickass full wolf form, which just so happens to be your profile picture.

        Silver bullets completely wreck him in partial-wolf/werewolf.

  • Thanks for pointing that out.

    I didn't even notice that Bigby looked scared, and I still found it ridiculous.

  • I'm pretty sure the Tweedles DID use Silver Bullets, if you listen to Swineheart. That's why he had to get all of the sharpnel out of you.

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      I thought he was referring to the single Silver Bullet, which I think he has said "exploded on impact." The rest of the bullets had "left his internal organs positively riddled" as he said, but most of the fatal damage was only from the Silver Bullet exploding I think.

    • Those shotguns didn't have silver bullets at all. If they used silver bullets in those shotguns, Bigby would be dead on the spot. Even Swineheart said, "Eat as many metal shellings as you want, but one more silver bullet and you're done for." Therefore the shells in the shotguns were just normal shells.

    • If they used silver bullets Bigby would be very dead.

    • No, Bloody Mary just used a hollow point that shreds on impact and peppers throughout your organs.

      They were banned in the Geneva Convention in wars for doing too much damage.

  • She's not just "some chick with a silver bullet." She's a murderous, psychotic Fable with an inherent resistance to magic and the ability to teleport through any reflective surface. How is that anti-climatic?

    Just look at this crazy bitch--> Alt text

    • Psychopaths can't determine right from wrong, she's a sociopath. She knows the difference, she just doesn't give a fuck.

      • That isn't true, actually. Psychopaths and Sociopaths both have difficulties sympathizing with others. The difference, however, is that Psychopaths tend to have criminal or extremely morally incorrect behaviourisms. They're capable of recognizing that they shouldn't do wrong, but they'll be too disconnected from the feelings of others to care. Sociopaths are more willing to abide by the rules, and when they do hurt others around them, they tend to be more emotionally hurtful and manipulative.

        That being said, Bloody Mary is obviously a Psychopath.

        • *A sociopath is a person who is plagued with a personality disorder that is marked by traits of anti-social behavior. On the other hand, a psychopath is a person who has an antisocial personality disorder that is seeping with an aggressive, perverted, criminal mind with an amoral behavior that lacks empathy and remorse. *

          A psychopath is inherently aggressive, where a sociopath can simply choose to be.

          • She's a psychopath. She doesn't choose to be aggressive, she is aggressive. If anyone is a sociopath, it's Bigby.

          • Psychopaths can still determine right from wrong based on what society's taught them. It's not like they're completely blind to what they're doing. If a psychopathic child's mother tells her not to be violent, he knows that his mother doesn't want him to be violent. He just won't have "empathy or remorse" for his actions. So, he just won't give a shit.

            • But can they overcome their born "aggressive, perverted, criminal mind"? If you really hate the color green, yet society tells you it's a good color, you'll still hate it.

              • How do you know that Bloody Mary chooses to be evil? If you were to look at her fable, it seems that she has little choice but to be evil. It's in her nature. Look at Bigby; he can be nice sometimes, but he's still as violent and tricky as he was in his fable. He can't help but stick to his past and has difficulties supressing his instincts.

                Look at Tiny Tim. He's stuck with a permenant leg injury because of his fable. Look at all of the british fables. They're stuck with that accent due to the origins/locations of their fables. And of course, look at the fables with a history of violence. They can't shake the violence nature they displayed in their fables. Bloody Mary had a very violent fable, so she's stuck with her violent nature. Even if she put effort into redeeming herself, she'd be unable to shake her killing instincts. She is, without a doubt, a Psychopath.

                • Bigby's eaten thousands of people, and was without a doubt more murderous than Mary in his prime, yet he's able to change his ways. Woody was regarded as a hero, yet we see him as a violent drunkard. Grendel is rather peaceful when unprovoked, only seeking space and distance.

                  You still choose your actions. No matter how many voices you have in your head telling you to kill someone, you still do it with choice.

    • I agree. She creeped the bejeezus out of me in that trailer. Though in one of the OP's post they said that they didn't like the beginning of the fight where Bigby is getting owned by her in her glamoured form. I kind of agree with that. I think he could take her on very easily when she's glamoured. However, when she turns into that thing in your post, Bigby better watch his back. Yikes!

  • Maybe the crooked man never wanted it to get that bad so he just gave the Tweedles shot guns and he gave Mary the silver bullet just incase things got out of hand, remember the crooked man wanted Crane he didn't care about Bigby and snow for the most part.

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