Thoughts About; Episode 4: Amid The Ruins

edited September 2014 in The Walking Dead

UPDATE:

Arvo was acting suspicious with the medicines after all, he was hiding it from his group (obviously). Clementine should've told the others that Arvo manipulated his group and told them that we are to blame for the missing medicines. Kenny would've probably killed him and it would've been good riddance. we will definitely hear more about this in season 3.

Alright. before you read all of this I need you to know this:

  1. I started this discussion because I don't agree with a few chapters of the build of Episode 4: Amid The Ruins.
  2. I don't agree with the fact that Arvo and his group behavior don't change after you decide to NOT rob Arvo from his supplies.
  3. and I made two examples in this discussion where I added a few optional dialogues that I wish that they would be in the game.
  4. You need to read carefully and not scroll all the way down to understand... (obviously)

Today I would like to talk about The Walking Dead season 2, Episode 4: Omid The Ruins.

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I would like to talk about the part where you meet Arvo.

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Here's Arvo holding a bag full of medicine.

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and here's jane surprising Arvo.

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So at some point, you are given the opportunity to decide whether you steal the medical supplies or return them to arvo.

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As you can see, I added two dialogues that I wish would be there, it would make everything a lot easier. especialy after the part where Arvo mentions about his "friends in the woods":

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But sadly, these options are not available in the game. so I chose to return the bag:

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Then Jane comes around... f**king it all up... Jane grabs Arvo points her gun to his face and threatens him;

Jane: "Next time I see you around..."

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Jane messed up.

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Alright so after that, Arvo went off with his precious medicines back to his people... and then the next morning, Clementine and the group decide to travel..., guess who shows up middle in the road?...

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... What are all your friends from the woodz doing here Arvo?...

So then this B**ch be all like:

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o-- sorry not appropiate.

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*outrageous* ...but then I thought by myself...wait... *they're russian*

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Clementine:

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So if that wasn't surprisingly enough, this happend:

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They want our Stuff & Thangs!

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*After that I thought by myself: What the f**k? What the actually f**k?! we didn't took your precious supplies! Jane just took your gun... for safe keeping y'know..*

Arvo: "Where's the woman?"

Clementine:

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Arvo: "It's a trap, I know it!"

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*I thought by myself, when this is all over, you will have two options;*

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but anyway... let's move on.

Okay so after that everyone started argueing and everything went intense, while Rebecca was still sitting there with her baby. Rebecca died in the meanwhile and she was about to turn and Clementine was the only one that saw it happening:

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As you might have noticed, I've also added two new options here, that I wish they would be there.

So yeah... my point of this discussion:

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Telltalegames.. --

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Thanks for reading/ watching, I took/ edited most of the images myself if you enjoyed & agree with this please show some appreciation down below in the commentary section ;)

  • No offense against Russians
  • Mixed up the dialogues a bit, don't whine about it pwease.
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  • Uhm.... no. Move this please.

  • edited August 2014

    (?)Swagrid will remember this

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  • wtf did i just read

  • edited September 2014

    ... I could've also just said:

    "Hey, it doesn't matter if you decide to rob Arvo or not, he will tell you the same thing in the end of the episode, don't you agree that this should'nt have been done like this?"

    It's just wrong. You can't tell your group that a kid and a woman robbed you when they didn't. They should've at least changed their behavior if you chose to return the supplies.

    UPDATE:

    Arvo is a manipulative son-of-a-bitch.

  • yeah me too

  • a fat bearded guy breaks down your door and tells you to come with him because you're a wizard, seems legit

    (?)Swagrid will remember this

  • edited August 2014

    read better.
    link here

    wtf did i just read

  • You made my day with that gif XD

    (?)Swagrid will remember this

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    (?)Swagrid will remember this

  • edited August 2014

    read carefuly :p

    Inkerman posted: »

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  • Love what you wrote there. I agree with everything you said. We should have gotten more options how to react. Especially the Arvo thing. I wanted to shoot him so bad when I met him on the observation deck. It was stupid as hell to let him go.

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    #TeamSarah posted: »

    Uhm.... no. Move this please.

  • you know what you can do? you can start using words instead of pictures, or is it to hard with all those words?

    read better. link here

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    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    how high are you? I love it.

  • how high are you? I love it.

  • AmazingAura01AmazingAura01 Banned
    edited August 2014

    Yeah I agree. So practically there are no real choices in the end. The episode ended the same way for everyone.

  • You don't have to be so edgy Kenny.

    you know what you can do? you can start using words instead of pictures, or is it to hard with all those words?

  • I thought it was very artistic and visual. Interesting.

    you know what you can do? you can start using words instead of pictures, or is it to hard with all those words?

  • you started with calling me dumb, so don't cry when you get called it yourself

    He never called you dumb. You're kind of agressive today, you even told somebody you'd bang his mother. Are you 10 or did something happen that upset you?

    you started with calling me dumb, so don't cry when you get called it yourself

  • you started with calling me dumb, so don't cry when you get called it yourself

    You don't have to be so edgy Kenny.

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    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    I thought it was very artistic and visual. Interesting.

  • edited August 2014

    he didn't call me dumb directly, but he certainly implied it, with that dog picture and the video

    edit: the bang your mother thing was me making fun of him for calling me an faggot, and we were just having fun which was very easy to see

  • I apologize for implying that then, but I believe that what I wrote is pretty clear.

    he didn't call me dumb directly, but he certainly implied it, with that dog picture and the video edit: the bang your mother thing was me making fun of him for calling me an faggot, and we were just having fun which was very easy to see

  • edited August 2014

    thanks, and i apologize for calling you dumb too.

    the thing i found weird about your post was that instead of using words you used pictures (i guess I'm just old fashions that way) but yeah i overreacted sorry, hope we can be friends again :)

    I apologize for implying that then, but I believe that what I wrote is pretty clear.

  • Rasin Cane's best thing in America

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  • In my opinion episode 4 had shitty writing, Yes, yes it was highly emotional, but trying to give us feels shouldn't be primary focus. The choices were so irrelevant, that the whole episode would have looked better without them. That Arvo part at the end of the episode got me very dissapointed because i was the one that didn't steal from him. Such a waste... those choices had so much potential.

  • That's pretty much the point of this discussion :)
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    In my opinion episode 4 had shitty writing, Yes, yes it was highly emotional, but trying to give us feels shouldn't be primary fo

  • Does anyone get the feeling that Arvo could be the Ben of the Russian group? I like to think he stole the medicine from his group to provide for his sick sister. In the scenario where you don't rob Arvo, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out he only blames Clem for robbing him to rid any suspicion around him.

  • Would Lee Everett be protesting in Ferguson MO? Or would he avoid the area to avoid being arrested and brought back to jail.

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    That's pretty much the point of this discussion

  • I love Charlie Sheen. Not as a person, but as an actor. He's great.

    That's pretty much the point of this discussion

  • God dammit I love you

  • edited August 2014

    Hmm, well in that case everyone would f**k him up if hes still alive after that shoot-out. But Clem should've said something like:

    [LIE] "What are you talking about Arvo? No one robbed you, there was only a attempt to robbery from Jane. But she got exiled for that."

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    "What are you talking about Arvo? No one robbed you, there was only a attempt to robbery from Jane, and I stopped her remember?"

    But I guess it doesn't matter because Arvo's group doesn't speak English so Arvo could say anything to his group.

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    Novis posted: »

    Does anyone get the feeling that Arvo could be the Ben of the Russian group? I like to think he stole the medicine from his group

  • Me too i think its funny he spends all his money on hookers.

    aldimon posted: »

    I love Charlie Sheen. Not as a person, but as an actor. He's great.

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