Isn't it easy to lose a baby?

Especially in a snow storm? You can trip and accidentally smother the baby while struggling to get up. You can trip and accidentally throw the baby, and it could land face down in the snow and effectively suffocate/freeze before you can find it, right? I don't understand when people say it's impossible to lose a baby in a snow storm, it's entirely possible and there's a bunch of variables that can go with it. Honestly, Kenny should have understood this. He could have lost the baby as easily as somebody else (even though Jane didn't actually lose AJ, but Kenny didn't know that. He got it drilled in his head that she murdered him.)

Iunno, what do you guys think?

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  • I have said it time and time again, if that was Clementine who would've lost the baby, Kenny would've killed her. Simply because she's smaller and can be easily over-powered. Kenny wanted Clem's head after what happened to Sarita. Luckily, that herd stopped him.

  • I think it's easy to give the baby to the walkers..and let them eat the baby up like a buffet.

  • Have you tried walking through snow without proper equipment?

    koban4max posted: »

    I think it's easy to give the baby to the walkers..and let them eat the baby up like a buffet.

  • That's exactly what I thought the moment I saw Jane without the baby.

  • Of course, that sounds reasonable but then you remember this is coming from the person who advocates leaving the child and other burdens behind.

  • Yeah i live in Ohio, its tough, we need specialized donkeys with barrels of Hot Chocolate every year. If we don't get our donkeys, bad things will happen... Winter is Coming.

    remorse667 posted: »

    Have you tried walking through snow without proper equipment?

  • edited August 2014

    I'm aware that during a snowstorm sound won't travel that far. But I doubt if you trip and you're not on a slope the baby would be more than what 1 meter away from you. Don't forget it would start to scream and you'd hear it.

  • Sarah? You mean the girl who sat waiting for her dad DESPITE seeing him die right in front of her eyes?

    BenUseful posted: »

    Of course, that sounds reasonable but then you remember this is coming from the person who advocates leaving the child and other burdens behind.

  • edited August 2014

    Hot chocolate :P

    I'd take you haven't walked through snow. It's ok.. I will never get the blind loyalty and gross facial hair attraction to Kenny. Facial hair can either work really well for someone people, or make you look abandoned like Kenny looked.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Yeah i live in Ohio, its tough, we need specialized donkeys with barrels of Hot Chocolate every year. If we don't get our donkeys, bad things will happen... Winter is Coming.

  • She was catatonic and in denial.

    remorse667 posted: »

    Sarah? You mean the girl who sat waiting for her dad DESPITE seeing him die right in front of her eyes?

  • I know. I loved her, but I know Carlos fucked up by sheltering her from the real world. She's too far gone. Certainly don't blame Jane for wanting to leave her behind.

    Lahkesis posted: »

    She was catatonic and in denial.

  • edited August 2014

    Are misinterpreting what I say on purpose? Sarah is a teenager, Alvin jr. is a child. Did Jane not say to leave the baby behjnd before?

    remorse667 posted: »

    Sarah? You mean the girl who sat waiting for her dad DESPITE seeing him die right in front of her eyes?

  • When?

    BenUseful posted: »

    Are misinterpreting what I say on purpose? Sarah is a teenager, Alvin jr. is a child. Did Jane not say to leave the baby behjnd before?

  • edited August 2014

    If Kenny wanted Clem's head, what was stopping him from shooting her when she was in the tent in ep 4?

    remorse667 posted: »

    I have said it time and time again, if that was Clementine who would've lost the baby, Kenny would've killed her. Simply because s

  • you're dead wrong.

    remorse667 posted: »

    I have said it time and time again, if that was Clementine who would've lost the baby, Kenny would've killed her. Simply because s

  • edited August 2014

    Depending on your choice Jane even risks her own life trying to safe Sarah during the balcony scene.

    remorse667 posted: »

    I know. I loved her, but I know Carlos fucked up by sheltering her from the real world. She's too far gone. Certainly don't blame Jane for wanting to leave her behind.

  • One relatively quick outburst is all that it takes. At that point, he was just feeling sorry for himself..

    There's a word for that. It's called a momentary lapse of judgement

    BenUseful posted: »

    If Kenny wanted Clem's head, what was stopping him from shooting her when she was in the tent in ep 4?

  • Even if chield dies you look for it. The fact that she didnt come with the body at least shows that she either did something to the baby, or that she didnt bother searching.

  • Yeah i have no idea what snow is, what is snow?

    remorse667 posted: »

    Hot chocolate :P I'd take you haven't walked through snow. It's ok.. I will never get the blind loyalty and gross facial hair a

  • Bigby Wolf's wife?

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Yeah i have no idea what snow is, what is snow?

  • edited August 2014

    It would be very easy for Jane to lose the baby in a snowstorm because a real baby would be dead or close to it after 3-4 days without eating. A real baby would most definitely be dead after 12 days without eating, which is about how many have passed before the final scene. And, for that matter, a real baby would be screaming its head off within about 4 hours of not eating.

    Granted, Clem has the magic baby touch that instantly quiets AJ down no matter what mayhem is going on around them, and I can sort of accept that, but I don't find it believable that Clem's magic baby touch also fills up the baby's tummy. Maybe others have commented on this, but I'm surprised I haven't seen it. If the devs can justify bad narrative (e.g., unsatisfying loose ends; stupid, pointless deaths; irrational character behavior) on the basis that it's "more realistic" then maybe someone should let them know that real babies die if they don't eat for 12 days, because it's obvious none of TT's devs have ever taken care of a baby.

  • Or... you know... zombies that eat human flesh.

    Hrulj posted: »

    Even if chield dies you look for it. The fact that she didnt come with the body at least shows that she either did something to the baby, or that she didnt bother searching.

  • Didn't they say that had formula?

    westeros posted: »

    It would be very easy for Jane to lose the baby in a snowstorm because a real baby would be dead or close to it after 3-4 days wit

  • If they do I missed it and I have no idea where they got some 12 days worth of formula (about 250 ounces, or 20 standard cans of Similac) or where they're hiding it, along with the clean water that they presumably need, or the baby bottle that we never see, for that matter.. I guess they might be stretching out a can or two, and the baby's near catatonic, which is why it hardly ever cries..

    Viva-La-Lee posted: »

    Didn't they say that had formula?

  • edited August 2014

    No way Kenny would have hurt, let alone tried to kill, Clementine.

    Jane on the other hand notoriously viewed the baby as a burden and possibly endangering them, and never gave a shit about his well-being before. Assuming she killed it because she returns without it is a long shot, but not without foundation. Kenny knows her to be emotionally detached and focusing on her survival above all, for all he knows she's one of these "survival of the fittest" types. I can see why he would think her capable of intentionally abandoning a baby in the snow to spare the trouble and risk of keeping it. And of course he doesn't believe her when she denies it, because he obviously assumes the worst of her and that's exactly what the cold, calculating person he suspects her to be would say.

    And all she had to do to prove him she wasn't a baby killer was to tell him she couldn't have killed AJ since he was actually alive... You know, the one thing that would have stopped the fight and immediately shut off Kenny's berserker mode... But she couldn't do that because she had already decided to make it a fight to the death to get rid of Kenny.

    Kenny wanted Clem's head after what happened to Sarita

    Ridiculous. Some people just can't stand being told off so it seems. If someone is blaming you and being unpleasant, it means he wants your head ? He wanted to be left alone in the first place, he didn't come to confront Clementine.

    remorse667 posted: »

    I have said it time and time again, if that was Clementine who would've lost the baby, Kenny would've killed her. Simply because s

  • Ridiculous. Some people just can't stand being told off so it seems. But Kenny said This one's on your head, Clementine!

    No way Kenny would have hurt, let alone tried to kill, Clementine. Jane on the other hand notoriously viewed the baby as a burd

  • edited August 2014

    I think that we don't really care wether she might have had good excuses or not, because no one would have ever suspected her from any wrongdoing if she had not pulled that shit in the first place... She created the suspicion for which she is suspected, how about stop finding excuses as if she had actually lost the baby and was unfairly blamed for it ?

    And when the fight was on, all she had to do to prove him she wasn't a baby killer was to tell him she couldn't have killed AJ since he was actually alive... You know, the one thing that would also have stopped the fight and immediately shut off Kenny's berserker mode... But she wouldn't do that because she had already decided to make it a fight to the death to get rid of Kenny.

  • Well, time to pull out the dead baby jokes!!!

  • edited August 2014

    Meaning he temporarily blames her...

    on one's head : assumed or borne, as a responsibility or something blameworthy.

    This one's on your head =/= I'll have your head

    remorse667 posted: »

    Ridiculous. Some people just can't stand being told off so it seems. But Kenny said This one's on your head, Clementine!

  • I think he's right actually.

    Kartal5 posted: »

    you're dead wrong.

  • Well she does hint a few times in ep 4 that having Rebecca and a baby around would put their survival at risk. She never outright says "Hey, we should kill Rebecca/the baby!" but she heavily implies it would be much better if they weren't around.

    remorse667 posted: »

    When?

  • Lol, no. One of the reasons he killed/tried to kill Jane was because he thought she'd eventually get Clem killed, as he said later.

    And he did say "This is on your head, Clementine." He meant that it was her fault, that she was responsible. He wasn't going to kill her.

    remorse667 posted: »

    I have said it time and time again, if that was Clementine who would've lost the baby, Kenny would've killed her. Simply because s

  • Really? A man who just called you a STUPID FUCKING KID and says this one's on your head.. totally doesn't want to kill you.

    Oh it's ok he's probably kidding Lmao ..

    Lol.. does not make any sense. But Kenny apologists never really make sense.

    Meaning he temporarily blames her... on one's head : assumed or borne, as a responsibility or something blameworthy. This one's on your head =/= I'll have your head

  • So she says it would be better without the baby around, but never directly said anything about leaving it behind..

    DeeLove92 posted: »

    Well she does hint a few times in ep 4 that having Rebecca and a baby around would put their survival at risk. She never outright says "Hey, we should kill Rebecca/the baby!" but she heavily implies it would be much better if they weren't around.

  • She's heavily implying they should though. I mean, think of her overall mentally in ep 4: you are better off on your own and don't let the group drag you down with them. That's just how I see it.

    remorse667 posted: »

    So she says it would be better without the baby around, but never directly said anything about leaving it behind..

  • A man who just called you a STUPID FUCKING KID and says this one's on your head..

    Oh no, you're right, that obviously means he wants to brutally murder her.

    ::sigh:: Just read what you wrote, man. You are only going to embarass yourself with this nonsense.

    remorse667 posted: »

    Really? A man who just called you a STUPID FUCKING KID and says this one's on your head.. totally doesn't want to kill you. Oh it's ok he's probably kidding Lmao .. Lol.. does not make any sense. But Kenny apologists never really make sense.

  • They got it from the Howes. They probably were stretching it out as much as they could. Also we never see half of the stuff they are presumably using.

    westeros posted: »

    If they do I missed it and I have no idea where they got some 12 days worth of formula (about 250 ounces, or 20 standard cans of S

  • Na. He probably would have killed her for lying. He's was crazy after all.

    I think that we don't really care wether she might have had good excuses or not, because no one would have ever suspected her from

  • Oh yes, babies are like a pair of keys. Oops, where did my baby go?

  • Well you're also dead wrong then

    I think he's right actually.

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