Why is it so?

edited March 2014 in The Walking Dead

It's not difficult to mention that people mostly love Kenny and hate Lilly. Well if with Lilly it's more or less understandable, but with Kenny I do not understand. I played first season several times. During the first time I mostly support Kenny. I agreed to kill Larry. So he was my friend, kinda. Next time I support him everytime, but refused to kill Larry. And till the end of the game Kenny was ..... asshole, real asshole. He didn't help to cope with zombie, when Lee asked "What the hell?" the answer was "you're not a child, you can do it by yourself!" Everytime he was showing off, did what he wanted, despite what is group's need. And finally when it came to decide who will come with Lee look for Clem he said " I'm try to imagine if I were you what would be your decision? Likely you would not go," WHAT?! This phrase just killed me.
So, please, explain to me, why do you love Kenny so much?

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  • I don't really have much of an answer for this because I've never gone out of my way to consistently piss Kenny off. I feel like most people don't, because the guy generally has the right idea about things.

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    Kenny was the most loyal Bro i could have possible asked for in Season1 and he was a loving father and husband.

    " I'm try to imagine if I were you what would be your decision? Likely you would not go," I played the game alot of times and Kenny never says this words. In fact even if you didn't side with him all the time, you can still choose the " Clem is my family " option and he will always go with you. And if you supported Kenny on everything exept the Larry thing, like you said...he will help you to cope with the Zombies aswell as giving you the Bro speech at the end of episode4. So you didn't always side with him.

  • But if you disagree with him ONCE then he hates you, you don't need to 'consistently piss him off'.

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    I can't speak for other people, but I guess it depends on how you played your game. Kenny won't like you if you don't side with him or agree with his every plan, and vice-versa if you do side with him he will be amicable towards you, a loyal friend, and will back you up at the end. If you don't side with him he can be a real asshole for sure, so I can see why people would dislike him.

    I like Kenny, but I'm not gonna deny that he has his flaws and can be a S.O.B. when he doesn't get his way.

  • Bandwagon.

  • That isn't true. I definitely did not 100% agree with Kenny on everything and he was a good guy to me regardless (for the most part).

  • He is so mean and selfish dick. That's the reason he is sooo awesome guy!

  • Strange.. This phrase was for sure, overwise it wouldn't make such impression on me. I know about "family," but the point was the phrase. Emm... now I'm not sure, but I think I was in his side, with food (I feed him and his son), agreed that something strange heppes on farm, and so on. But I had that scenario.

  • Because:

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    ...but in all seriousness, I've always felt like Kenny deserved to have someone he could rely on. I felt like everyone either abstained from the arguments between Lilly and Kenny, or they sided with Lilly (Larry). I realize Kenny isn't sweet and innocent, but he was all alone, without anyone he could rely on (outside of his family, that is). I took pity on him and was that person who wasn't just there for Kenny - I was there for Duck and Katjaa, too.

  • This basically. Once the mustache memes became a "hip" thing in the forum Kenny suddenly became everyone's favorite character.

  • So just one "wrong" decision and all, it's done till the end of the game(((

  • I'll be the first to admit I was a fan of Kenny, and on most every occasion I agreed with him completely. But I don't think he is a good character just because everyone likes him (if anything the blind submissive mass has turned me away from liking his character). And I sure as he'll don't think he should have been in season two. His death was perfect and the entire s2 situation is just silly tbh.

  • Kenny did stupid things himself. I just missed him.....

  • Well, he had his family. Lee didn't have even it. Lee had a small girl and nobody to rely on. It is the same. If I got you correctly

  • The 'once' I am referring to is the meat locker situation.

  • He really carries the hate out for the rest of the season if you don't agree with him there though?

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    Absolutely, he does.

  • Kind of. Katjaa never really backed up Kenny with anything he said and Duck was, well...Duck. So I felt like it was kind of my responsibility to sort of be there for him. Just my interpretation, however. I'm sure others perceived it differently than I!

  • Hate is a strong word for it, IMO. He just tends to be more gruff and won't put his neck on the line for you. He still came with me to find Clem and seemed quietly broken up about Lee getting bit.

  • Kartal5Kartal5 Banned
    edited March 2014

    God, this is like the 7th topic on Lilly this week, how much more do we need?

    Kenny definetely has his flaws no one is arguing against that, when he holds a grudge he wont let go of it easy.
    BUT unlike Lilly he also had redeeming qualities like saving Lee's life and sacrificing himself for Christa/Ben.
    Yeah he is an asshole, but he is our asshole.

  • And were you always side with him or not? What did you choose for Larry?

  • Thumbs up & agreed. I'm getting sick of the Lilly vs. Kenny threads too, it's been done to death.

  • The topic is not about Lilly. Well, you started))))))Unlike Lilly - she didn't have time to redeem. TTG let her out. About her we can speak in the same way as about Kenny. The only difference is that we know Kenny longer.

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    Examples?

    I could understand him being upset about it. If you side with Lilly you're putting everyone in serious danger, and also make Kenny do something pretty gruesome on his own without support.

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    Try playing the start of episode 3 (where he even refuses to help you when you are trapped under the door) if you don't side with him, or the end of episode 4.

    If you don't help kill Larry, it's impossible to get him to automatically come with you to help recover Clementine. You get no bro speech, even if you side with him 100% at all other times.

  • Saying Lilly has no redeeming qualities is over-exaggeration.

    I mean, for one she cares a lot about her family. Isn't that a good quality? She is also nice to Clem, giving her 'hair thingies' to use while she sleeps.

    Also, if you side with her, she's actually pretty lovely to Lee at times.

  • Odd. I guess I'll have to replay and experience it for myself.

  • I'm thinking this will probably be the case when I go back and check this out..

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    If you don't help kill Larry, it's impossible to get him to automatically come with you to help recover Clementine.

    As someone who didn't help him with Larry I can say that isn't true. I didn't even always take his side during the other Lilly arguments. Did you at least look out for his family? I think I recall him mentioning that when deliberating.

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    I looked out for his family all the time because I liked them, but he only came with me when I said 'Clementine is my family'.

    Furthermore, my info that it was impossible was on percentages posted on the wiki a bit ago, but I can'[t remember exactly where. It said that you need a score of over 90% or something, and helping to kill Larry gave you 40% and took away 40% if you didn't help.

  • Yeah, she is so nice to Clem that she makes her watch while she murders Carley/Doug in cold blood for no reason

  • I chose to let Kenny kill Larry, although in that instance, I chose to do so for Clementine. I didn't want the chance of Larry possibly coming back. I didn't side with Kenny about letting the girl be a distraction at the beginning of episode three. I put her out of her misery, because that's how I played Lee - he was the guy who had to do the hard stuff. I had Lee mercy-kill Duck, too. It's how I play Clementine now.

  • You say 'makes her watch'.

    DId Lilly make her watch any more than Kenny made her watch bashing Larry's head in while he was alive instead of holding it over his head just in case?

    Kenny also wanted Lee to drop Ben in the bell tower, and Ben was Clementine's friend.

  • Kartal5Kartal5 Banned
    edited March 2014

    C'mon that was a life threating situation. They all witnessed how fast David Parker turned into a walker at the motor inn. He panicked and reacted fast which was the right thing to do, covering Clem's eyes wasnt his top priority in that intense moment where every second counts, and just for the record Kenny told Katja to keep Duck from the windows after Lilly murdered Carley/Doug which shows that he doesnt want children to witness that kind of thing if possible. In the end what Kenny did was a neccesity, and wasnt based on petty anger which was the case with Lilly on the road.

    Oh yeah, Ben is Clementines "friend" allright.

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  • You see, you let him kill Larry. But in anyway I got your point.
    Well, now I understand people's love better, but still it is not enought for me to love him.

  • My friend tried to save Larry, but still got the bro speech. Granted, I'm taking his word for it, but I've also heard a few other people say that it's possible. I guess you just have to side with him on EVERYTHING else if you didn't help him with Larry.

  • It doesn't work. My own experience

  • No. I've seen my sister do a play-through where she tried to save Larry and Kenny was Lee's best friend in the end. Got over it by episode 4.

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