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Being curious with characters ... why not anyone disabled or handicapped?

posted by The_Stash on - Viewed by 2.5K users

So me being me was curious about something; there's a lot of people out there who have disabilities(Ex:wheelchairs, schizophrenia etc) and i though it would be cool if clem came cross someone like that (like in carvers camp or whatever) just a suggestion t though it would be very interesting to see how it turns out (and know escaping zombies and surviving and stuff) what do you think? good idea or bad idea?

  • Ben taking object out of the door when clearly see zombies and holding door shut something wrong there

    Carlos a doctor cannot notice bite on clem is not dog or zombie clearly has schizophrenia or split personality believeing his a doctor

    Group of adults letting child make all the decisions and fix all problems like turning a key must be something seriously wrong

    But seriously why not be good story angle great idea

  • thanks! and yeah carlos is a f*king genius

  • Seeing as I'm legally blind, so I might as well throw my two cents in (at least about blind people)...

    Partially blind people could conceivably do okay in the Walking Dead universe, but it's unlikely. Being vision impaired really fucks with things like spatial awareness, depth perception and the eye's ability to focus. For example, a vision impaired person might have a difficult time running away from walkers on uneven terrain, without falling and getting eaten. I've personally taken spills a bunch of times while backpacking and trail-running. Not good in a life-or-death scenario. Unsurprisingly, being half-blind makes it more difficult to load and aim firearms. For example, I can achieve good groupings with a pistol, but can't even aim through the peep sights found on most rifles and therefore need to use a Red-Dot or 4x Scope to hit the broad side of a barn. We also tend to suck at certain kinds of manual labor (using power tools, etc.). In short, even with my decent survival know-how, I would find it difficult to make adequate contributions to the group.

    Bear in mind that I've had more than two decades (my whole life) worth of time to get used to being half-blind. Plus, my parents invested a lot of time and effort into ensuring that I'm as well adjusted as possible. People who never had the same opportunities as me and/or lost their vision suddenly (cough The Governor cough) would have it far, far worse.

  • I don't see why you couldn't have, say, someone who couldn't walk in a group. Yeah, bandits probably wouldn't take them and they almost certainly wouldn't survive if they were running around solo Mad Max style, but even if you're in some kind of Crawford-esque hellhole where anybody who falls below a harsh standard of fitness gets kicked out to die, would you really get rid of someone who had medical training or had a knack for repairing tools and machines? The real trick would be surviving the chaotic early days of the outbreak, before people knew what was going on.

    • Yeah, it all hinges on having a skill set that is unique and relevant. Honestly, I think that someone who's missing a leg would be better off long term than someone who is visually impaired or mentally ill.

      • And the setting. If you've got a secure base of operations, you can specialize beyond scouts, fighters, and watch-guards. And mental illness depends on what the illness is, or if it's problematic at all.

        • True, giving mental illness as an example was way too broad. But I'm referring more to any kind of mental illness to would impair an individual's ability to act rationality and decisively in a stressful situation.

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    CannibalCarl BANNED

    OP, you really need to read Darwin and his "survival of the fittest".
    Disabled people are just a burden in a zombie apocalypse and hence would be killed off pretty fast.

    • That's not actually what Darwin said. Effectively, "Those best able to adapt and do so quickly are the most likely to survive long enough to pass on their genetics."

      Which does not inherently say anything about differently abled people.

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        CannibalCarl BANNED

        Adapt also means letting go of everything you have in order to survive. Disabled people can't just give up their medicaments etc and are therefore bound to have a big disadvantage in such situations.

    • That's Social Darwinist theory you're talking about. Don't misuse 'survival of the fittest' to make a point.

      Also, differently-abled people?! Never heard that one before.

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        CannibalCarl BANNED

        No, Darwinism includes "Survival of the Fittest" and his theory is applied at such a situation. Social Darwinism is actually about the role of disabled persons in society which leads to the general assumption that they are useless and are therefore to a to be exterminated according to the theory.

        • Survival of the fittest specifically pertains to an organism's ability to pass on it's genetic material to offspring. Therefore, survival of the fittest in it's literal sense only applies if the disability in question is hereditary. I understand the point you're trying to make, but attempting to invoke the theory of evolution isn't the way to do it.

  • I was funnily enough thinking the same thing yesterday and came to the same conclusion as others that they probably would not survive long whether due to lack of medicine, accessibility or plain out being rejected by any groups. The only situation I could see it working in is in the case that we have now, however moderate (or severe - maybe we haven't seen all of her problems yet) Sarah's issues are which is that someone is looking out for her or they still have family left. Considering the lack of working electricity for elevators and the abundance of woods someone would probably have a hard time surviving if they were dependent on a wheelchair. It would be interesting but probably not realistic unless it was in the first year of the ZA. It could be a cool dlc short.

  • Maybe the reason Troy did not speak in episode 2 is because he can't or isn't able to speak

  • I highly doubt anyone not in a large settlement with a disability could survive for two years in the world of The Walking Dead.

  • His probably not a nice guy in real life, but I guess "blade runner" would survive just as anyone else. Handicapped or not, you would have to have a quick mind.

  • because they most likely died at the start of the outbreak

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