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Is Carver actually a BAD guy ?

posted by Kirbinator93PC on - Viewed by 8.8K users

Carver is painted as the antagonist and no doubt I think Telltale will continue with that storyline but I would also love to see them throw in a monkey wrench - give Carver some positive attributes. I know he killed seemingly innocent members of your group but you do have to remember:

  • we know very little as to WHY he left the group
  • he is chasing Rebecca who has her kid. That is a pretty powerful force.
  • he seems like he has a commitment to his group/ community which are pretty positive characteristics

In another thread, the question is posed : "Would you kill Carver?"

The obvious answer is "yes" as of right now because he hasn't done anything beneficial yet. I think Telltale is going to at least give Carver some "courageous" act to portray him in a different light. Just food for thought. Like I said I think Carver will be a absolute (insert curse word here) for most of the episode and than in the end maybe reveal something that would paint him in a more positive light.

  • well he hits kenny in the ep3 preview, so hes very bad and definitely marked for death in my book, but maybe we find out who he really is in ep3

  • He broke Carlos's fingers. He needs to justify that behavior before I can even trust him.

    Besides, Telltale confirmed that he is the main antagonist.

  • I will never forgive a man who killed one of the nicest guys in the ZA! Poor Walter. T_T

    • Trust me, I think Walter was my temporary favorite character. He actually was like a genuine nice guy. At the same time, we don't know why Carver left and he was enraged. . . Kenny just killed one of their guys. Up to that point, as Alvin and Rebecca were debating, he probably WOULD HAVE NOT killed anyone.

  • He shot and killed Walter and/or Alvin (determinant). He tortured Carlos right in front of Sarah. He also had Sarita or Clem at gunpoint and pistol-whipped Clem. Yeah, he's a bad me at least :P

    • I know he's a miserable dude but we know so little. What if Carver were to save Clementine next episode when others were running away or fleeing ?

      • Yeah, that's the thing. There's still many unanswered questions about this whole thing. I'm just saying that based on what I've seen so far. Which is why I want to play episode 3 right now! >.<

    • All of that violent behavior may be justified in his mind because he's trying to implement a stable community (hence, the "bigger picture").
      By the way, killing Alvin actually has to do with someone Alvin killed, named George, so we have yet to find out what really happened there.

      I try not to view people as just 'bad' or 'good', either. Life's way more complicated than that.

  • What kind of good guy would kill two people in cold blood, torture a man in front of his daughter and pistol-whip a child? Yeah, he may not act evil all the time, that would make him very one-dimensional, but he's by no means a good guy.

  • So far he's tortured and killed defence less people so he's not the best guy

  • He isn't a good guy, that's for sure. Good guys don't break fingers and torture people. Does he have positive traits that could possibly paint him in a better light that we haven't seen yet? Maybe. Probably.

    I don't think TTG will go the typical psychopathic antagonist route with Carver. That would be boring. Despite that, there's no way he's a good guy. Morally grey if anything. He has an "eye for an eye" ethical code, so he's not entirely amoral, but that doesn't make him good. He's on a higher level of pragmatism.

    • Theses are my thoughts to. I hope Carver has some sort of code and a method to his madness like forcing people to work to help the community stay healthy. Ive always wondered how the hell communities function in the walking dead universe if everyone doesn't work or at least you hardly see people working within the communities of Kirkman's comics. It makes the communities seem like too much of a fantasy. The tv show had a little amount of depth on infrastructure but it still did not seem believable. Maybe TTG saw this as a problem and decided to give a communities a spin with different infrastructures or a what if scenario of a community run under a dictatorship.

  • I'm not sure yet, but he's certainly not a NICE guy. My guess is that he's a well-intentioned extremist who darkened through the course of the apocalypse. He's clearly intelligent and charismatic but still seems like a tyrant who steps on others to get his way. The sanctity of human life doesn't factor into that equation.

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    Yes, Carver is a bad guy.

    First of all, Im not necessarily saying Carver doesn't have a softer side, Im simply saying having a bit of compassion, Which is something every human being should have won't be enough to justify all the things he's done in what... Fifteen mimutes of screen time ?

    He held a kid at gunpoint, Tortured a guy in front of his daughter to get info out of him, Shot two people in the head in a span of five minutes,Etc.

    What's funny is he did all of this in such a short time. If you're watching an LP and you go to the bathroom without pausing it you could miss the whole thing, Seriously.

    If Telltale plans on making me change my mind about him he better sacrifice himself for Clem or something like that.

  • He is worst than Andy St. John. Tied with Danny

    • I will have to disagree with you there. Sure, he's not a nice guy by any definition. But he's definitely not like Andy or Danny. Carver killing Walter was in a way justified. For all we know, if Kenny hadn't shot Troy(I think that's his name) Walter could still be alive. He also made it quick and painless,that's not the case with the St John brothers.

      In my opinion, if Carver would've known about them, chances are he would've shot them both. Since Carver strikes me as a man with some morals and principles, and I don't think he agrees with cannibalism.

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