Your theories for Episode 4 and 5?

edited April 2014 in The Walking Dead

These are the images of the select screens.
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In Episode 4, I feel that Clementine will be mindfucked by the loss of her comrades. I expect everyone close to her to have died already. Carver lives.

Episode 5, she runs away from Carver to Wellington alone where she is left in a helpless state. She eventually finds a way to hide from him and stay out of his reach. She has run so much that she is now left in a place where there is no one left. Carver continues on with his life while Clementine is trapped in Wellington waiting to die.

I don't want this to happen, but the darkness of it all makes me think so. If you search the music for the select screens, it used to be pretty eerie and creepy. I'll link it.



  • I can't even think past episode three right now.

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    You understand the struggle.

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  • What the actual fvck did I just witness?

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    Already posted this somewhere but im going to post this here.. Clem's episode 4 model with the walker blood matchs the image, ignore the grin, he edited it that way when he found the file.

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  • Is this edited, or is this a case of model swapping?

  • Clem's nightmares

  • What the actual literal boombox cheeto fuck.

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    I think its a model swap, the grin has been changed/edited by someone to make it look funny.

  • I predict it's not going to be Clem's blood. Probably somebody she cares about. Possibly Luke.

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    Well, I think she's going to lose her hat either in episode 4 or late episode 3. The achievements and ep. 4's picture make me think she's going to end up killing somebody - hence the blood smears as she drags her hands down her face. Her missing hat might be symbolic of that, the last remnant of her old, younger and innocent self is now gone.

    In any event I think she's going to be a very different person by episode 4.

    Grasping at straws 101 over.

  • If you look... Clem looks rather angry in the episode four slide which makes me think this might be an episode where she loses her shit, only a little bit. I don't think she'll continue to be like that for the rest of the series though but just mainly that episode, maybe due to certain events in amid the ruins. Now in episode 5... I can't even begin to guess if telltale will kill off Clem. I sure hope not but we should prepare for it just in case :(

  • i think she will be changed and will want revenge on carver

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    You make a very interesting and probably prediction. I too feel that she will be a changed person. I can't imagine Clem without her hat, which is only thing she can remember of her dad.

  • Who wouldn't? I want Carver to suffer a slow and painful death too.

  • Kenny will probably kick his ass

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    Looking at the Episode 4 picture makes me think Clementine will lose her innocence [as in kill somebody] while the Episode 5, it gives me the sense that Wellington won't be as good as the group might be hoping it'll be.

    But here's to hoping Clem finds her hat T.T

  • In the select screen for Ep 4, if you brighten things up, you'll see the hooded figure is Eddie, and the one on the left is either Vince or Nick. And the other silhouettes look like people from the past... Dead people.... Like Doug at the far right, small silhouette is Duck right behind Clem (before she covers the silhouette) and the one on the far left if probably Carley, and the big silhouette behind Clem is either Johnny or Larry. But I take no credit, the theory is from this dude:

  • Carvers gon lock up rebbecca and clementines gon try to help Kenny escape but first she gon try get rebbeca out (in the preview Clem was sneaking to a place were they keep tools) she gon get caught and get locked up then rebbecas has her baby in the cell but they both die and Clem kills the baby walker and strangles walker rebbeca with her umbilical cord and then Bonnie comes and let's clementine out and Bonnie Kenny and Clem escape to Wellington

  • BTW, I think this is probably accurate, I don't know though. Still questioning on the supposed silhouette of Kenny. I don't know what all these characters being in this slide means exactly but who knows. I think that it might just be silhouettes of people Clem has lost or maybe even those that she has blamed herself for the death of (or future death considering some of those characters are still alive). It seems symbolic so i'm not sure.

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  • They could be placeholders. It would be super cool if there was some kind of symbolism around it!

  • I think it's probably hers. I don't know why but I can picture Clem getting hurt and having a determinator moment where she's totally unfazed by it. It could also be Carver's or someone else from his group.

  • I believe I have an idea on what episode 4 is all about. Clem lets the walkers into Camp Carver, and uses her knowledge of masking her scent with infected blood to move freely throughout the place, probably to save everyone else. The blood on the face is like war paint while this all goes down. War against Camp Carver.

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    Actually you can see it's Vince, it's a different POV. And if that doesn't conVINCE you, look at the little curve with his hair on top of his head. Also theirs an alternative screen for that and I CLEARY shows Vince's silhouette.

  • Episode 4- Amid means- in the middle of; surrounded by; among: to stand weeping amid the ruins.
    during; in or throughout the course of.

    So Clem will be surrounded by people, lakes, hills, etc. Clem will also be in fear and cry about everything that happened to her. This will be an episode to remember all those who died. Something that happens in episode 3 makes Clem realize her innocence is gone. Maybe she kills Carver. The achievement for episode 3 is- Gave what you got with a picture of a bloody wrench.

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    Maybe those shadows are meant to be dead people?

    Doug, Carley, Bandit member, does Kenny die too??

    Eddie is the clearest so maybe he doesn't die.

  • Yes as I stated above :). This will be an episode of remembrance and loss of innocence. Clem will not be the Clem we all knew after episode 3. something in episode 3 traumatizes Clem very much. She'll be like Russel not wanting to trust anyone that much anymore. Only person she'll trust is Christa

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    Yeah I noticed that one. I haven't been able to get that background and so far i've seen that people don't know what choices you make to get it. I don't know for sure that it's Vince though... in the different slide Vince is wearing the same shirt as the silhouette in this one that looks to be similar to Kenny. I guess we'll just have to wait and see how the episodes turn out.

  • I agree with the theory that she will lose her hat and it will be symbolic of losing part of herself, but think that symbolism could go two ways.

    My first theory is similar to what others have mentioned, that Clem losing her hat will symbolize her losing the last of her innocence, and possibly a significant portion of her humanity. Whatever happened that made Clem lose her hat could traumatize her, or harden her so much that she becomes a different person. If this happens, we as the player could either let Clem succumb to these feelings, or struggle to find the choices that help her grasp to the last remnants of her humanity.

    The other thought I had was much less destitute. Losing the last relic of her past could symbolize Clem finding closure with her past and moving on. She would come to terms with any guilt she felt over Lee's death, what happened with Omid/Christa, what happened to her parents, and all the other events of season 1. Maybe someone asks her again how she was able to survive so long, and her response is more reflective and appreciative rather than riddled with guilt. Like, "My friend Lee found me and taught me how to survive. He's gone now, but thanks to him, I'm still here."

  • Carley and Doug confirmed for Season2!

  • Haha, I know you're just joking but just to make it clear, i'm just saying it's something symbolic :P

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    I think Telltale was just using old models in this pic, like they did alot of other times before.

    I think the symbolic part about this picture is the fact that Clementine and Kenny both seem to be missing their hats. (And we all know that " those dirty old things " are much more, than just simple hats. They remind them about their pasts and all the people they once cared about.)

  • You probably are right about the reusing models thing with the bandit but I doubt they would reuse models like Carley and Doug if there wasn't any sort of symbolic meaning to them being in the slide.

  • You can thank vivec for the modeling stuff. A lot of it is his work.

  • you probably noticed already but it also looks like Nick

  • The skeleton on the episode 5 is Lee

  • When Season 3 comes out (I think it's safe to say that it will - they will continue making these games as long as TWD remains popular) I can't see them using Clementine again as a playable character, just for the sake of variety. So my guess is that in the remaining episodes we will see Clem undergo some drastic change and (maybe?) switch her alliances. This will lead to only one possible outcome - at the end of episode 5 she will join the 'bad' people and in Season 3 she will grow up to become the new antagonist (TWIST!). That would be a situation none of us will expect, and it will result from all the pain and suffering she endured.

    I'd also like to see a final scene of the episode 5 to be some sort of a 'test' for Clementine, where she will be told to execute someone close to her (there are a lot of people to pick from), but we WON'T be presented with actual choice - whether she shoots that person or not would be decided by the game from all of the previous choices from Season 1 and 2 (depending on what Lee used to say to Clementine and her own decisions from current season). That way we would be able to see how our choices affected her (and how valuable our decisions were).

  • I think Carver will die in episode 3 and his camp will get destroyed and overrun with zombies, Clementine and whoever is left alive will escape together and they will head North to Wellington. Some of these people will be from 400 days and I'm sure NATE will show up somewhere along the way!

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