You dont think dragging a man in front of everyone and emptying a bullet in his head and then going on with business as usual is not murder in cold blood? Th man is a blood hungry, calculating and violent sociopath and murderer. And I dont think the Carver gave a rat's ass about the guy Kenny shot. A man who murders people in cold blood, breaks one of his comrade's fingers - one by ne - to make a point and is a selfish. murderous sociopath doesnt give a shit about anyone else. Even his alleged "love" for his child is probably more about his ego and thirst for control and power than about truly caring for his child. He's fucked up and dangerous.
death of his friend my ass- the carver dodnt give a shit about anyone and i bet if he had to, he would murder those very people he calls friends for a blanket or loaf of bread or some shit. Give me a break.
The problem is, that you have to imagine what goes on in this kinds of situation!
Sure it's totally fucked what Carver did to Walt and Kenny and espacially Carlos, but I have to admit that there is something that we don't know about carver yet, and maybe he will show us his good sides, probably.
I think the same princip goes on with Nick, because you have had ever the chance to blame him for what he did back on the bridge and so it was the easiest choice to make him responsible for everything, so I don't want to say my opinion about Carver to loud. The best thing what I could do now ist to wait .
P.S. Don't think I sympathize with Carver 'cause I do not!
You seem to know a lot about Carver for the five some-odd minutes he's been on-screen.
He hit CLEMENTINE, a little girl, in the stomach and put a gun up to her head.
Lee can hit Kenny.
Did you think Lee was 'very bad' and 'marked for death'?
He's not a bad guy. His childhood was bad. Madsen said that.
Well, from all we know, Alvin could have killed George, Carver's best friend, and then just left Carver with everyone else, including the lady carrying Carver's baby. If that happened, it would technically make Alvin worse than Lilly, who many people hate on this forum. Imagine if someone killed YOUR best friend, you would probably be extremely pissed off. Plus, Walter may have not died if KENNY would not have shot at Johnny. Also, if Alvin dies, it's because KENNY shot at Carver. I still think Carver is probably a bad man, but he is one of my favorite characters in Season Two because he's such an interesting character. Just because he's my favorite character doesn't mean I'm saying I want him to live to the end. I'm just saying I think he's a very interesting antagonist.
That's different though, Kenny shot Johnny because he was a member of the group that just kidnapped and was torturing us.
But David wanted to rape Ellie. I don't think Carver wants to rape Clem based on the way he's treated her so far
Although I could be wrong. I have no clue what Telltale has in store for us
I doubt he really cared about George. He went straight for Alvin after killing Walter, gives me the impression he wants Rebecca's husband out of the way quick.
Are you actually knocking Kenny for trying to save his friends? He could clearly see through the window that Carlos was being tortured, he knew that these were bad people. He wasn't going to stand up and wave to see if they shoot first, that would be stupid.
Man you guys are forgiving motherfuckers. "Carver killed Walter because Kenny killed his friend." I doubt Carver gave a shit about Johnny. He refers to him as "our man" so I doubt he actually cared. He didn't like having his power threatened so he killed Walter to show everyone that he was still in control.
People keep bringing up George but Carver probably didn't care about him either. He wanted an excuse to justify murdering the husband of Rebecca and no one even knows how George died but considering how submissive Alvin is I doubt he killed him in cold blood. The group was most likely escaping from Carver and George was a member who was trying to stop them. Alvin probably shot him on their way out to save the group.
Carver is not a nice man. Good people don't try to track down people and kidnap, torture, and execute them. The way his camp looks is like a prison.
Also I got the impression that Carver raped Rebecca. She didn't look at all excited to see him and Rebecca was hoping that it would be Alvin's so she didn't have any emotional attachment to him. Good people don't rape women.
Nope! He is a innocent angel.
Yes, he is the villain, but he is hell smarter, than the stranger.
How do you know this, friend? Please, enlighten me.
I don't. The reason that he didn't find it shocking when Johnny died was because he knew not everyone was accounted for, and that things like this would happen. He wasn't broken up, because as the apocalypse goes on, you begin to take death in stride. It happens so much. It doesn't reduce the sadness people feel because of it, it only increases suppression, and ability to work under said sadness. He broke Carlos' fingers, because in his eyes, Carlos is a bad man, and he was doing it to flush out his wife and child. He's shown care towards Rebecca, in the one conversation they had. You can't say anything about his love for his child. Even bad men love their children. Maybe especially bad men. Because a baby is the one thing that a bad man can turn to and say, "This thing is fantastic. Look at my accomplishment." He's dangerous alright, but the preview for episode three makes me think he isn't as fucked up as we've been shown, even if, in the end of the day, he is the villain, he doesn't seem all that bad, when compared to people like the bandits, or the St. Johns, or the Stranger, or Vernon. He seems like he's simply the opposite side.
you are making excuses for murderers and sociopaths. that's ridiculous. Next think you tell me the Governor was merely misunderstood..
I'm sure he's a good guy. It's not like he's only had about 10 minutes of screen time and kills off two characters and even willingly put a gun to kids head.
I love how you ignore my well thought out and put together argument. It's not. The Governor is a psychopath who had 0 reason to do the things he did. Carver has a reason, and a valid one.Would you rather break a dude's fingers, or walk around corners and risk your life to a scared fat man who might have a gun? Breaking fingers clearly wins.