A tweak to the frozen lake/river scene
Alright, so I know this topic has been argued back and forth quite a bit, but I've been thinking about ways to make this scene work better from a logical standpoint. My aim here is to find a way to keep the scene the same as it is for the most part, but change the exact details of how it occurred. In this case, the group's reason for deciding to 'cross' it: They don't initially realize it's a lake/river.
It's covered in snow. A layer of snow is covering the entire area, making it appear as if it's just a clearing in the woods; nothing out of the ordinary. With the house being on the other side, everyone starts going across under the assumption that it's solid ground. Kenny of course makes Arvo go first, and everyone else follows suit.
Everything's going fine until bam, the ground beneath Clementine cracks like it does now. She immediately calls out saying that it cracked. Jane, concerned, scrapes away the snow beneath her, and sees the ice. That's when everyone realizes they just unwittingly crossed a frozen river/lake.
Kenny, infuriated, immediately begins to accuse Arvo of knowing about the ice, and deliberately not saying anything. The rest of the group try to get him to lay off, and they argue about what to do: they're about half-way across already, do they turn back, or keep going?
However, the argument gets cut short when they notice walkers starting to follow them across the ice. After seeing the walkers, everyone pretty much agrees to keep going forward rather than risk going back.
They start to move forward, only to be distracted by walkers starting to fall through the ice. From here, the scene plays out as normal: Arvo tries to book it, Kenny chases him down, and Mike tries to stop Kenny from doing something stupid, the ice cracks around Luke, decisions are made, lives are lost, etc etc.
It's not a perfect explanation, but it removes the arguable decision of deciding to cross a frozen body of water on your own volition. I think this would also provide a nice "oh shit" moment when you finally realize that you're actually crossing ice.
It also provides more ambiguity to Arvo, and gives Kenny a slightly more justified reason to be pissed at him. Not to say that this in any way justifies him beating up Arvo, but it provides a more valid explanation for why he would do it, as he would believe Arvo was purposely trying to endanger them by not mentioning the ice. As such, the player would also be left to make their interpretations as to his motives. Did Arvo purposely not mention the ice? Or did he also not know about it?
Basically, it allows the scene to happen as it does, but provides a better explanation for it occurring in the first place: no one knew what they were getting into. It'd be like unwittingly stepping into a mine field, only to see a worn out warning sign once you're half-way through it.
And to fulfill some peoples' fan fiction side, here's some dialogue/script ideas for it:
[Group is crossing when the ice cracks beneath Clementine. Clementine stops]
Luke: What is it?
Clementine: The ground... it-it cracked!
Kenny: Cracked? The hell do you mean 'cracked'?
Clementine: I don't know, I just, felt it crack, like-
[Jane brushes away some snow with her foot, revealing ice beneath them]
Jane: Shit. Guys, it's ice.
Bonnie: (surprised) What?
Kenny: You gotta be fuckin' kiddin' me! Ice? We're on fuckin' ice?!
Luke: Just calm down, okay? Just... we'll be fine.
Jane: Luke's right, we can't panic.
Bonnie: So what do we do now?
[Kenny turns to Arvo]
Kenny: Son of a-- you knew about this, didn't ya?
Kenny: You knew about the fuckin' ice! And you didn't say a goddamn thing!
[Dialogue choice for Clem here. She can tell Kenny to stop, ask what they should do, or blame Arvo as well. Following dialogue from Kenny and Mike is background conversation during the choice.]
Arvo: No! No I did not-
Kenny: Bullshit! You were hopin' this would happen, weren't ya? You little...
Mike: Damn it Kenny, calm down! Stop blaming him for every-
Kenny: This fucker nearly got us killed once already, remember? Are you really gonna keep trustin' this piece of shit? Use your damn head, Mike!
Jane: Enough! There's nothing we can do about it now, so let's just--
[The group notices walkers behind them, starting to cross onto the ice]
Bonnie: Damn it, we got walkers incoming.
Luke: Well shit... We're about half way across, right?
Mike: Yeah. It's only a few of 'em, we should be fine if we keep moving.
[Another dialogue choice. You can agree to keep moving forward, suggest trying to go back, or again asking what the rest of the group thinks. A couple of throwaway lines from characters either agreeing or disagreeing with you, leading back into the main dialogue]
Jane: Look, if we're going to go, we better get going fast.
Bonnie: Yeah, let's just keep moving. We can make it across before they get close.
Luke: Yeah, yeah. Just-just keep moving, guys. Okay? We're gonna be fine.
[Scene plays out as normal from here. Arvo starts moving quicker, Kenny tells him to stay close to them, walkers fall through ice, Arvo runs for it, etc]
But hey, I'm just tossing around ideas.
What do you guys think?