Props to TellTale for ANF's Finale

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  • Go help everyone else? who are you talking about he wasn't with Clem and Gabe wasn't with David so who is he was helping?

    Gary-Oak posted: »

    You said yourself It's out of character for Conrad to not help Javier. Would it also be out of character for him to go help everyone else?

  • Yeah, you're right, my mistake. Clem, Gabe and David were the only ones that lived in Richmond.

    Go help everyone else? who are you talking about he wasn't with Clem and Gabe wasn't with David so who is he was helping?

  • It was ok, too many weird decisions to say it was great like dropping the Joan plot, Ava dying and everyone immediately forgetting about it, Gabe's character literally changing every other scene, Conrad kinda disappeared until the end which made me think the game bugged out, offscreen death for David, and other nagging details that annoyed me.

    But that's just it I was only annoyed at some of the things in this episode where as season 2 legit pissed me off at how stupid it got. And you know what I'm also glad we got a reasonably happy and hopeful ending for once in TWD the doom and gloom of this Genre can get tiring.

  • David's offscreen death was determinant. Based on your choice on going after Gabe or going with Kate to save Richmond, you'd end up witnessing one of them die while the other is ultimately doomed (unless you were fortunate enough to let them all live).

    Jaku2011 posted: »

    It was ok, too many weird decisions to say it was great like dropping the Joan plot, Ava dying and everyone immediately forgetting

  • That doesn't make an offscreen death for a major character better.

    CocaColin posted: »

    David's offscreen death was determinant. Based on your choice on going after Gabe or going with Kate to save Richmond, you'd end u

  • choices mattered at the end when choosing the outcomes of your family members, but there wasn't actually much closure w javier's story. joan/clint, eleanor, max, lonnie, etc are either not even present or just cut entirely. kate romance doesn't matter because david tries to kill your ass anyway. some of the death scenes and determinate shit are good, but the worst part about all of this is that you'll probably never see javi or his family again so it was a waste of season

    CocaColin posted: »

    How exactly was this one that much worse? Choices actually mattered, and there was a huge variety in endings.

  • I mean what did you want?

    You can't be in two places at once and based on how you made your choices - David died. It was a perfectly sound option for them to do, regardless if you enjoyed it.

    You were either with Kate or you went after David. There aren't two Javier's, so you can't see what happens at both areas. That's why it's a choices game. I really don't see how that's a complaint of yours. That's the premise of their whole studio - choices changing your story.

    Jaku2011 posted: »

    That doesn't make an offscreen death for a major character better.

  • edited May 2017

    And choices ultimately feeling fulfilling as well as shaping a well written story.

    ANF puts the value of choices over proper storytelling and that's a giant issue for Telltale who state they prioritize story and characters over gameplay.

    CocaColin posted: »

    I mean what did you want? You can't be in two places at once and based on how you made your choices - David died. It was a perf

  • Okay, but my previous question remains - what would you have done differently then? You made a choice - go after Gabe, or go with Kate.

    You can't do both, so you're not gonna see both unfolding. That would make way less sense. So please enlighten me as to how that would have been done better.

    J-Master posted: »

    And choices ultimately feeling fulfilling as well as shaping a well written story. ANF puts the value of choices over proper storytelling and that's a giant issue for Telltale who state they prioritize story and characters over gameplay.

  • edited May 2017

    Play as Clem in the scenarios where Gabe isn't around. You would have to rewrite a good chunk of the narrative for that to work but I don't see how that's impossible for the writers.

    CocaColin posted: »

    Okay, but my previous question remains - what would you have done differently then? You made a choice - go after Gabe, or go with

  • It was the best episode from ANF in my opinion. I really liked how there are different endings to this episode. But if they continue the walking dead with Javi and the rest of the survivors next season, they better not pull a Kenny/Jane where they all die anyway and your choice doesn't matter.

    But I do have a gripe because of how David acted this episode. He started doing some crazy stuff and I don't get why he changed all of a sudden this episode. But overall, I liked this episode. Btw, I got the same ending as you, Gabe living, Kate missing, and David dying.

  • My clem only kissed gabe because of past season 2 choices I'd say that's pretty diverse

    What? It was awful nothing from previous episodes mattered at all. Conrad suddenly disappars despite being right next to Javi then

  • As much as I liked the season, episode 5 was a mess and ruined David's character.

    Ava's fake-death-so-she-can-come-back-next-season was stupid too.

    she's not even an interesting character and neither is kenny 2.0 (tripp)

    bringbackmermaidkingluke

    it was all super rushed

  • edited May 2017

    I though Ava was an interesting character. There is no way that death was fake. Cheap yes. Fake no. They clearly just needed to get rid of her character as quickly as possible. She was already determinant in episode 4.

    ladypocky posted: »

    As much as I liked the season, episode 5 was a mess and ruined David's character. Ava's fake-death-so-she-can-come-back-next-se

  • edited May 2017

    Nah. Below that fall was water. They're gonna make the Ava/Tripp survivor show up in season 4 briefly

    XyzLewis posted: »

    I though Ava was an interesting character. There is no way that death was fake. Cheap yes. Fake no. They clearly just needed to get rid of her character as quickly as possible. She was already determinant in episode 4.

  • They literally gave no closure to so many characters. How is it a good finale when it doesn't tie up the loose ends?

  • They made me regret wishing gabes death to happen so what I'll do is claps nice job I felt sad for the kid real bad reminded me about the sadness of loosing Kenny n Lee :-:

  • Not that difficult to write it in a way where we see it happen not sure why you think it's impossible, it's called creativity.

    You could easily have Javier find therm dying, instead of just finding a corpse.

    CocaColin posted: »

    Okay, but my previous question remains - what would you have done differently then? You made a choice - go after Gabe, or go with

  • Sorry. I understand you have an opinion but I laughed when you said you thought it was their best done yet. The endings were a cool concept but there was way too much wrong with this episode imho. It's officially made me give up in even watching a playthrough of the next one.

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