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Telltale King's Quest timeline

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For those keeping count, first announcement was exactly two years on February 17, 2013, and last confirmed information was given about 1 1/2 years ago on June 2011 (from 01/23/2013).

The last major production/development information was made in an interview on May 2011.

It has now been confirmed that the game was cancelled.

Timeline Note (miscellaneous):
We also know that this year in 2013 that Telltale is expanding in size, to make more games. No idea what they are expanding to make though.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/11/20/telltale-games-to-expand-starting-in-spring-2013/

Paul Trowe/Replay (3rd party)
  • April 10, 2012: "The remaining issue, as with King’s Quest, would be licensing the games from owners Activision. Trowe explained that Activision had been a touch unrealistic when he first approached them. Activision told us that they wanted $500,000 up front,” he explained. “And greater than 50% revenue share for those properties. I told them ‘good luck on getting that’, because I don’t think anybody’s going to pay that fee. I can tell you that they changed their tune about six months after that.” But since then Space Quest has been licensed elsewhere, and Replay are currently in negotiations over getting the rights for themselves. “I want to say it’s looking good,” said Trowe, “but right now I’d give us 50/50.”
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/10/replay-trying-to-bring-back-space-quest-kings-quest/#more-103251

    RPS: So also with King’s Quest, they’ve been uncharacteristically generous in allowing fan projects. Have you seen the project the Silver Lining?
    Paul: The Silver Lining wasn’t available for sale…
    RPS: That’s right, yes.
    Paul:And in addition it wasn’t really a King’s Quest. In my opinion they did an injustice to the King’s Quest franchise.
    RPS: That’s interesting, why do you think that?
    Paul: I just don’t think it held true to Roberta’s vision, just like I don’t think the Leisure Suit Larrys that have come out after Al wasn’t involved held true to Al’s vision. And that’s why I refuse to work on a Leisure Suit Larry game if Al wasn’t involved. I refuse to work on a King’s Quest game if Roberta’s not involved.
    RPS: Would Roberta be willing to be involved, she’s been out of the industry for a while hasn’t she?
    Paul: I can’t speak for Roberta, but I can tell you that we’re currently talking to her and Ken.
    http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/04/10/happy-as-larry-al-lowe-on-remaking-his-classic-game/#more-103200


  • April 12, 2012: "I love the Sierra classics!! Can you bring back King's Quest, Space Quest, or Police Quest? Our good friends over at Tell Tale have licensed King's Quest from Activision. If we do our job right then maybe, just MAYBE we'll be able to partner with them and ruinite the Space Quest team, King's Quest team (go Roberta!!!!) and Police Quest team for re-makes or new versions of those (Space Quest 7 anybody?)."
    http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1451923705/make-leisure-suit-larry-come-again/#ILoveTheSierClasCanYouBrinBackKingQuesSpacQuesOrPoliQues

  • June 5, 2012: Trowe related Kickstarter sabotage controversy (false claims/smears about several other competing projects, and sockpuppetry). He later apologies. However it is unclear how much the duplicity affected any previous claims made before it was discovered by MixnMojo and others.http://mixnmojo.com/news/Is-Paul-Trowe-of-Replay-Sabotaging-Other-Kickstarters
    http://www.spacequest.net/index.php/topic/286-controversy-paul-trowe-on-the-two-guys/page__st__20__p__2266#entry2266


  • April 1, 2013: “They had [the King's Quest rights], and we were going to license it from them to make the remakes. I wouldn’t do a King’s Quest without Roberta. [Telltale senior VP of publishing] Steve Allison told me that they have the rights but they don’t have the bandwidth.” Allison offered to look into sub-licensing King’s Quest out to Replay, but Trowe hit a dead end when he brought the conversation over to Activision. ”I talked to the guys at Activision and they were like, ‘No, we’re pulling it [from Telltale] because we’re going to do it ourselves.’
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/looking-at-leisure-suit-larry-reloaded-and-whats-ahead-for-replay-games-with-paul-trowe/

    “Activision’s probably not going to give us the King’s Quest rights,” Trowe told us. “[Telltale] had it, and we were going to license it from them to make the remakes.” Telltale senior VP of publishing Steve Allison told Trowe that it was an issue of bandwidth; the studio behind 2012′s*The Walking Dead simply did not have the resources to handle*King’s Quest, what with a second season and the launch of*Fables both in the works.*

    “Then I talked to the guys at Activision and they were like, ‘No, we’re pulling it because we’re going to do it ourselves,’” Trowe revealed. He doesn’t know what the publisher’s plans are for*King’s Quest, but they don’t seem to include either Telltale or Replay. We’ve reached out to Activision for comment and will update this post accordingly when we hear back. Be sure to check out our full interview with Trowe, and to head back here tomorrow for our extensive GDC chat with Telltale CEO Dan Connors."
    http://www.digitaltrends.com/gaming/activision-is-planning-something-for-kings-quest-franchise-rights-reportedly-recovered-from-telltale-games/
Josh Mandel comments (3rd party)
  • March 8, 2011: "Telltale and I have spoken a bit lately, but there's nothing more I can (or should) say about it! But I would love to be King Graham for Telltale, and I trust them completely with the property."
    http://archive.adventuregamers.com/forums/showpost.php?p=574476&postcount=27
  • Jan 19, 2013: Josh Mandel comments & Chat Log:
    "And Activision would be foolish to say, "Here, we're renting you the license to King's Quest. Do nothing with it in perpetuity...Telltale seems to be going in another direction anyway. Walking Dead was a hugely popular license and a big success for them, I think. King's Quest would be a big step backwards, a far less well-known and far less popular license...I think it's been safely reported that Activision and/or the Sierra licenses (except Larry) are up for sale...they *had* the KQ license and did nothing with it, opting instead to pick up a license of a national television show that certainly didn't need Telltale's help."
    http://www.telltalegames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=763862&postcount=122
    http://pastebin.com/ktzRV5FU
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  • http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2013/03/01/telltale-on-new-ips-beating-jj-abrams-to-the-punch/
    RPS: How about King’s Quest?

    Dan Connors: We’re not saying anything about that yet, but we’ll let you know when we’re ready to talk about it.
    Bleh... Yep, that could be read many different ways, LOL.
  • RPS: Is there anything beyond that, or is it just those two?

    Dan Connors: I think we’ve got a couple unannounced things that we’re kicking around. Fables and The Walking Dead are a safe bet to focus on for 2013, as far as what’s coming, what news is coming. No surprises.

    We can at least safely say that KQ will not be coming after Fables, and will not be coming in the next year. Beyond that, who knows if/when it will be made.
  • We can at least safely say that KQ will not be coming after Fables, and will not be coming in the next year. Beyond that, who knows if/when it will be made.
    Do you mean, not coming before Fables and Walking Dead 2, and not coming out in 2013?

    We are still stuck at several possibilities;

    1. It will come out after Fables (which was the general idea that's been said all along). But as has been shown, everything has been delayed. It is also delayed past Walking Dead 2 (that team must have went right into the sequel after it finished on the first).

    2. They are still in negotiations and cannot say anything yet.

    3. It's been early production for unspecified amount of time (maybe there is concept art, a story ideas at this point), but they won't say anything or show anything until after Fables has been released, or even after Walking Dead 2 (much as how they haven't said or shown anything about Fables until after Walking Dead season 1 was released).

    4. It will not come out at all, its been canned. But they are not ready to announce that just yet.

    5. Fables is to be renamed, we will learn it has been renamed "King's Quest", and a new character King Graham will be introduced, living and interacting with the Bigby, Charming, and Red Riding Hood in New York City. It will be a crossover, and Graham will opine about the days he used to spend in his former kingdom. "Dam gummit, you kids, get off my lawn"...
  • Heh, that response is about the last possible positive spin you can put on the subject.
  • My post is 'positive'?

    I wouldn't be surprised if Walking Dead 2 gets delayed into 2014 at this rate, based on their history of delays.
  • So much for my prediction. In this case, I feel kind of good to have been wrong.
  • BagginsKQ;774415 said:
    Do you mean, not coming before Fables and Walking Dead 2, and not coming out in 2013?

    I meant not coming directly after Fables. It sounds like Telltale's next games will be Fables and TWD Season 2, in that order.
  • Ya, that's what I'm seeing too.
  • Well, I got my hopes up momentarily -- when the Telltale site was down for an hour last night, it seemed like stars might be aligning for some kind of announcement. I do take, from the fact that Dan even let RPS print that, that it's less-dead than it seemed yesterday.

    It still seems possible they're working on it in secret, maybe with Jensen consulting, and it will be amazing, so big, that they're all denying it until press day - to torture us 10 or so true-believers.
  • Telltale has essentially about a 2 year turnaround from when actual development starts and release of first episode. Barring any delays.

    They generally don't give out concrete information about a game's content until less than 3-4 months before a game's release.

    If and only if the comment that they were putting a team together 9 months ago, and that was the start of development, then it would be another 14-15 months before they even say anything important at all.

    Until then or if they announce something earlier than their normal MO we aren't going to get jack squat out of their tight assed lips. Up until that time they could potentially announce a cancelation. I'd assume cancellation announcement would come sooner than later once legal issues are sorted out. Is there any kind of gag order/specific non disclosure rules on telltale on discussion of the game and any legal issues over licensing currently?

    If there is a gag, probably see them quietly shut down all discussion boards on the topic so not to draw as many questions about a game they have no plans to commit to. The forum will just quietly disappear.
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