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If you kill a walker and its teeth land on your skin does it count as getting bitten?

edited April 2013 in The Walking Dead
COMPLETE EDIT :

In episode 3 when the walker grabbed hold of Duck and Katjaa, I did not see a chance for the walker to bite duck, only when the walker fell on duck that was the only time the walker even touched him because katjaa was holding the walker... This has made me think that maybe dead walkers can infect you too? So if Carl kills a walker and their teeth lands on Carl will Carl get infected too?

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  • edited March 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    COMPLETE EDIT :

    In episode 3 when the walker grabbed hold of Duck and Katjaa, I did not see a chance for the walker to bite duck, only when the walker fell on duck that was the only time the walker even touched him because katjaa was holding the walker... This has made me think that maybe dead walkers can infect you too? So if Carl kills a walker and their teeth lands on Carl will Carl get infected too?

    If there is even a cut which is exposed to any bodily fluid of a walker, then you can catch all kinda of anti biotic resistant diseases. Doesn't have to be a bite, just is some saliva, or blood, gets in your body through any opening, you're in a heap of trouble
  • edited March 2013
    crispy01 wrote: »
    If there is even a cut which is exposed to any bodily fluid of a walker, then you can catch all kinda of anti biotic resistant diseases. Doesn't have to be a bite, just is some saliva, or blood, gets in your body through any opening, you're in a heap of trouble

    doesnt the governer kiss penny in the comics though?
  • edited March 2013
    aaron1290 wrote: »
    doesnt the governer kiss penny in the comics though?

    Well, I have not read the comics (damn hard to get ahold of where I live), but if he kept her clean enough, made sure she didn't rot too much, or eat uncooked meat, she might be clean enough to kiss without becoming infected. Or maybe he just has an immunity to those particular diseases which were breeding in her.
  • edited March 2013
    Uh Penny was being fed bodies by Phillip. I'd say it was safe because he wasn't exactly exchanging saliva, licking off her skin, or anything bad like that. People that kiss dead things don't always catch something.

    Anyway, the walker didn't fall, it was overtop of them. Lee shoots the walker afterwards. So the walker did bite Duck. However, as another had said, any type of fluid or sexual contact(not just a simple kiss unless you want to exchange tongues or other parts of her) would infect someone.

    What you are saying about dead walkers killing people is possible, if you were to get them to bite you, it'd have the same effect. People die today from dead bodies that infect them with diseases by maybe a finger scratching them or a tooth bite, or eating them :P. However, such is very unlikely anymore. But I mean, if you took a dead walker head and slammed it into your leg, yeah, there is a possibility(if you opened up a wound or something pierced your leg) you could get infected.
  • edited March 2013
    It's unlikely to happen, but if a dead zombie was able to pierce your skin with it's teeth I would say consider yourself bitten.
  • edited March 2013
    Yeah, getting bitten in any manner is lethal, save for the quick amputation. Which really bothers me because then the Dixon brothers solve all of their problems by punching zombies in the mouth.

    Genius survivors indeed.
  • edited March 2013
    Frankly, if you let a zombie even get CLOSE enough to bite you, you'll already be in trouble.
  • edited March 2013
    Frankly, if you let a zombie even get CLOSE enough to bite you, you'll already be in trouble.

    Eh, I'd say that's not true. I'd rather sit behind a strong metal fence with a large pole than in a field with a rifle. But I guess that is preference.
  • edited March 2013
    ^Why do you have a pole?
  • edited March 2013
    Corcline27 wrote: »
    ^Why do you have a pole?

    I actually have three. One is an old water pipe made of perry that is cut to arm length, sharpened on one end, I'd say a couple inches in diameter. Also, a copper pole for curtains/clothes, that lost it's safety on one end, and an old flag pole with the tip. Do you not have a pole lying around? An old mop, broom, flag stand, staircase rail, etc? In a zombie apocalypse, weapons would be scarce, and so using household items as weapons would be more necessary. Characters of TWD in comics and the show use household items to kill walkers all the time. Glenn even uses a metal pole in the show to kill walkers while behind the fence.

    Poles are very handy, durable, many hard to break, and can be used in all sorts of situations :P

    Why do you have a computer? ;) I don't think a household wouldn't have a pole(or stick for difficult people). But hey, weird is normal lol.
  • edited March 2013
    I should have known. Pole - a house hold item, sharpened at one end, and used to kill zombies during an apocalypse. duh
  • edited March 2013
    Corcline27 wrote: »
    I should have known. Pole - a house hold item, sharpened at one end, and used to kill zombies during an apocalypse. duh

    HAHAHA :D You use guns in the apocalypse, yet it only brings more dead on you. It doesn't make any sense either, when ya think about it(unless cornered by a horde or something).
  • edited March 2013
    I'll say this: when the camera is focused on Lee and shows him raising his gun, that's when the walker gets a very quick diving attack on Duck, pushing through Katjaa then biting him. She then pushes him back off Duck just in time before the camera snaps back.

    What I'm trying to say is, it happened off-screen during the struggle. At least, that's what i think.
  • edited March 2013
    Yeah.Of course it will affect.
  • edited March 2013
    If it cuts skin then all sorts of diseases that could be in a rotten corpse can enter your system.

    Seriously how hygienic can a dead rotting corpse be? One that eats people alive and *gasp* doesn't brush its teeth?
  • edited April 2013
    Since all zombie fiction is different, and I'm assuming that a lot of this is based off of what has been established in the comic, does a zombie bit itself automatically turn someone into a zombie? Or does a bite or whatever just make it extremely likely that someone will die, and the death itself is what turns them? I know that anyone who dies will turn if the brain is not destroyed.
  • edited April 2013
    saladdays wrote: »
    Since all zombie fiction is different, and I'm assuming that a lot of this is based off of what has been established in the comic, does a zombie bit itself automatically turn someone into a zombie? Or does a bite or whatever just make it extremely likely that someone will die, and the death itself is what turns them? I know that anyone who dies will turn if the brain is not destroyed.

    The bite kills you, and once you're dead you turn. If the wound is severed from the body quickly enough you can live, but otherwise it is guaranteed death.
  • edited April 2013
    I say that nothing is certain, for in most cases no one survives long enough to keeps the bite long enough to find out. I mean, how many people have we seen that were bitten and we saw them die BECAUSE of the bite. We've seen them get sick, but besides for say Duck, maybe Lee, and Amy, and maybe a few others that I could have forgotten, you really don't see people die of the bite. It seems certain they get sick, and symptoms are 100%, and that TWD's Kirkman has said as well as those characters in the franchise have revealed that everyone is infected, and a bite is fatal. Whether that is true, will probably never be seen. Someone could have had the potential to survive but was put out of misery, or maybe there is a way to be treated(without amputation) that is not known, but nothing has proven that a bite is not fatal. So until we see otherwise, a bite is fatal unless amputated.
  • edited April 2013
    So let me make sure I understand. Is everyone infected with the zombie "virus" that will ultimately turn them into zombies once they die? And a zombie bite is just highly infectious, and will kill someone from infection, but won't necessarily turn someone to a zombie by itself?
  • edited April 2013
    saladdays wrote: »
    So let me make sure I understand. Is everyone infected with the zombie "virus" that will ultimately turn them into zombies once they die? And a zombie bite is just highly infectious, and will kill someone from infection, but won't necessarily turn someone to a zombie by itself?

    Everyone is already infected with the 'zombie' virus. The bite basically kills you and then when you're dead the zombie virus kinda...activates? So if you die in any way, shape or form and your brain isn't destroyed, bitten or not. You will turn.
  • edited April 2013
    saladdays wrote: »
    So let me make sure I understand. Is everyone infected with the zombie "virus" that will ultimately turn them into zombies once they die? And a zombie bite is just highly infectious, and will kill someone from infection, but won't necessarily turn someone to a zombie by itself?

    The bite apparently kills everyone, and those that die turn, no matter what. It doesn't matter if the bite doesn't cause you to turn, since 'everyone' is infected, meaning when you die, you will turn. Getting bitten only kills you(as far as we know).
  • edited April 2013
    It's easier to not explain it as a virus. Everyone turns regardless. Bites don't transmit anything special, but the infected wounds of a zombie bite will kill you in hours. And like anyone - even those who die in a sterile environment - the bitten ones will return.
  • edited April 2013
    It's easier to not explain it as a virus. Everyone turns regardless. Bites don't transmit anything special, but the infected wounds of a zombie bite will kill you in hours. And like anyone - even those who die in a sterile environment - the bitten ones will return.

    I find it much easier to explain it as a virus. Then we can just say the bite is a sort of adrenaline boost to the virus already residing within every human, giving it enough strength to overcome the host while it's still alive(it's normally too weak to do this until they're dead).
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    I find it much easier to explain it as a virus. Then we can just say the bite is a sort of adrenaline boost to the virus already residing within every human, giving it enough strength to overcome the host while it's still alive(it's normally too weak to do this until they're dead).

    Sure, if that's the way you think sickness works. Viruses aren't programs waiting for conditions to be met. What you're describing is still magic.
  • edited April 2013
    OK. That's what I thought. I just wanted to confirm what the standard was in the TWD world.

    I think it would be interesting to find someone who is somehow immune to the infection caused by a zombie's bite.

    Do we know from where the zombie virus originated, or is like much zombie fiction in that it is just mysterious?
  • edited April 2013
    Sure, if that's the way you think sickness works. Viruses aren't programs waiting for conditions to be met. What you're describing is still magic.

    If it can bring a corpse to life in the first place, it's obviously not as simple as a common cold. There's some suspension of disbelief you need to have in zombie apocalypse scenarios.

    It could be man made or from another planet, where it wouldn't be bound by the petty laws of everyday illness on Earth.
  • edited April 2013
    saladdays wrote: »
    OK. That's what I thought. I just wanted to confirm what the standard was in the TWD world.

    I think it would be interesting to find someone who is somehow immune to the infection caused by a zombie's bite.

    Do we know from where the zombie virus originated, or is like much zombie fiction in that it is just mysterious?

    Zombie fiction. Kirkman stated he didn't want to go into details of the such, and focus more on the drama and all that. So... I don'y expect any answers as to how it came about.
  • edited April 2013
    Mark$man wrote: »
    Zombie fiction. Kirkman stated he didn't want to go into details of the such, and focus more on the drama and all that. So... I don'y expect any answers as to how it came about.

    Fair enough.
  • edited April 2013
    Mornai wrote: »
    It could be man made or from another planet, where it wouldn't be bound by the petty laws of everyday illness on Earth.



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    Really this is just the kind of thing to file under "Best not thought about". :p
  • edited April 2013
    Hehe, good old History Channel meme never fails to disappoint!
  • edited April 2013
    Well if you hear a chomp sound, then you're screwed xD
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