Telltale Autumn Sale

Telltale should buy LucasArts's original IPs

JFPJFP
edited April 2013 in General Chat
I know this is a long shot, and this may overlap with the Disney Buys Lucasfilm one, but regardless, I feel this is necessary.

I strongly feel that Telltale Games should try to acquire at least some of LucasArts's non-Star Wars or Indiana Jones games and IPs (including the first Sam & Max game and whatever remains of the S&M LucasArts was working on, but scrapped).

Consider that in the past Disney sold off Dic Entertainment and the Power Rangers, and my proposition seems more realistic.
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  • edited April 2013
    Something tells me Disney's not interested in selling them, and even if they were Telltale's probably not interested in buying.

    If they do sell them off, I honestly think they'd be better off with Double Fine.
  • edited April 2013
    If copyrights aren't properly renewed, the games could potentially fall in public domain.

    In 2080, give or take a decade or two.
  • edited April 2013
    Nobody wants Freelance Police anymore except lattsam.

    Especially not the people who made it.
  • edited April 2013
    Disney has found ways of keeping the rights to Mickey Mouse for far longer than copyright laws would seem to allow. I think it's silly to think they'll deal with anything else differently.
  • edited April 2013
    GaryCXJk wrote: »
    If copyrights aren't properly renewed, the games could potentially fall in public domain.

    In 2080, give or take a decade or two.

    We're talking about Disney. They (almost literally) wrote the book on copyright extensions.
  • JFPJFP
    edited April 2013
    Disney has found ways of keeping the rights to Mickey Mouse for far longer than copyright laws would seem to allow. I think it's silly to think they'll deal with anything else differently.

    Yeah, but my point is, they've been willing to sell of stuff they've acquired from other companies (e.g. Power Rangers and Dic Entertainment, not to mention the award-winning Miramax film library), so they may be willing to part with some of the LucasArts IPs.
  • edited April 2013
    Disney only viciously defends the copyrights of properties that it wants to keep. They've made it pretty clear that they only bought Lucasfilm for Star Wars (and, maybe in the future, Indiana Jones) so there's no reason to assume they'll be unwilling to sell any of the IPs they don't plan to use. But, unfortunately, it sounds like Telltale isn't all that interested in resurrecting old adventure games anymore.
  • edited April 2013
    I don't see Telltale going after these as they've said they want to focus on new IPs rather than resurrecting old ones. But anything's possible.
  • edited April 2013
    I doubt Disney will be actively peddling the licenses and if someone tries to buy them they cold potentially keep the prices so high, that it would not make sense to buy them.
  • edited April 2013
    Loom the movie, i see it happening :D
  • edited April 2013
    Double Fine would be my preference.
  • edited April 2013
    But But But double fine does other games than adventures :o and thats the thing that 'everybody' is blaming telltale to do!

    what now????
  • edited April 2013
    bosbeetle wrote: »
    But But But double fine does other games than adventures :o and thats the thing that 'everybody' is blaming telltale to do!

    what now????

    I know that you're only being facetious but I don't remember "blaming" telltale for anything (though plenty of others have). It's just that I'd sooner Double Fine get hold of the IPs because they're still making an adventure game (a 2D adventure game no less). Also, I tend to love all of Double Fine's games regardless of genre, which is sadly not something I can claim about Telltale.

    Take 'Costume Quest' for example; that's a game that brought back the feeling of "classic Lucasarts adventure games" to me and it's not even an adventure game! In short, I would trust the IPs in Double Fine's hands above Telltale.

    Not having a dig at Telltale here, I'm really not. I liked (but not loved) their adventure games but I generally have a higher level of respect for Double Fine. It's certainly nothing personal.
  • edited April 2013
    bosbeetle wrote: »
    But But But double fine does other games than adventures :o and thats the thing that 'everybody' is blaming telltale to do!

    Double Fine doesn't do watered down adventure game experiences though (unless that's how Broken Age turns out). They make excellent games in a wide range of genres.
    St_Eddie wrote: »
    Not having a dig at Telltale here, I'm really not. I liked (but not loved) their adventure games but I generally have a higher level of respect for Double Fine. It's certainly nothing personal.

    Same here. I've had some great experiences with TTG over the years, but I realize they aren't making games that I'd want to play anymore.
  • edited April 2013
    flesk wrote: »
    Double Fine doesn't do watered down adventure game experiences though (unless that's how Broken Age turns out). They make excellent games in a wide range of genres.



    Same here. I've had some great experiences with TTG over the years, but I realize they aren't making games that I'd want to play anymore.

    I remember when Telltale Games used to make puzzles that are challenging instead of a visual novel like experiences.
  • edited April 2013
    License some to make a game? Sure. Buy them? No way. They'd just be transferred from one company that sat on them and did nothing, to another company that'll sit on them and do nothing. I wouldn't want any one company to end up owning all the properties. Double Fine should get the ones that Tim wants, though.
  • edited April 2013
    Would prefer Double Fine or Replay Games over Telltale.
  • edited April 2013
    I would prefer new IP :) (but I think im at the wrong company for that anyway with telltale)

    Still I wonder what the wolf among us will be
  • edited April 2013
    I think Double Fine and Telltale would be suitable candidates, but I might think a company like Big Fish Games would work as well. There are like A LOT of graphic adventure games from that company, like many of the games in the Mystery Case Files series for instance.
  • edited April 2013
    I wonder if Big Fish could make something that LucasArts fans would accept. Even their most adventurey games like Drawn (which I enjoyed) skew pretty casual. Their art style would work pretty nicely for something in the Loom universe though.
  • edited April 2013
    Sometimes I think it would be best if everyone just let those old IPs rest in peace.

    It's not like there's a shortage of new ideas that we have to keep tapping the same old wells.
  • edited April 2013
    It's not like there's a shortage of new ideas that we have to keep tapping the same old wells.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDkk2OIwIBg&t=20
  • edited April 2013
    Chyron8472 wrote: »

    THIS, or the Taco ads are very appropriate :p
  • edited April 2013
    It's not like there's a shortage of new ideas that we have to keep tapping the same old wells.

    Psh. Tell that to the oil companies.
  • edited April 2013
    I think it's pretty likely that Disney will be willing to sell/license the old LA IPs for the right price. As was said earlier, they seem to be open to selling properties they don't have any plans to use themselves lately, and I think we can all agree that all of Lucasarts' other properties had no bearing at all on the sale of Lucasfilm.
  • edited April 2013
    Scnew wrote: »
    I think it's pretty likely that Disney will be willing to sell/license the old LA IPs for the right price. As was said earlier, they seem to be open to selling properties they don't have any plans to use themselves lately, and I think we can all agree that all of Lucasarts' other properties had no bearing at all on the sale of Lucasfilm.

    I don't know, it seems to me that all they care about is Star Wars and as such may be happy just to let them gather more figurative dust.
  • edited April 2013
    I don't know, it seems to me that all they care about is Star Wars and as such may be happy just to let them gather more figurative dust.

    I mean, it depends on an interested party offering them enough cash, but I'm sure they're open to it.

    As was said before, Power Rangers was a property that Disney had decided to not produce anymore, but were apparently more than happy to sell it back to Saban.
  • edited April 2013
    Scnew wrote: »
    I mean, it depends on an interested party offering them enough cash, but I'm sure they're open to it.

    Well yeah, but whether that amount is realistic is another question.
  • edited April 2013
    Disney shot themselves in the foot yet again, they made a big mistake with closing the doors to Lucasarts. Aside from Telltale getting the rights to the other adventure games(Monkey Island, Day of the tentacle) Double Fine needs to get the rights back to Full Throttle and Grim Fandango. Chances of a remake of Grim Fandango are never going to happen, which saddens me.

    Is there anything we can do to get the rights from Disney to hand them back to the creators? Or will they will be forever remained locked up in Disney's grasp.
  • edited April 2013
    To be honest..I don't think Disney is going to sell them. But if it does happen..well the creators should get the IPs. Tim gets full throttle, and Grim. Ron gets Monkey Island Back, and Maniac Mansion, Dave gets DOTT and Steve Gets back Hit The Road. Just what I think.
  • edited April 2013
    We need a miracle for that to happen. I got a feeling that Disney wont bother using the adventure game series since they aren't Star Wars or Indiana Jones.
  • edited April 2013
    Icedhope wrote: »
    ...Tim gets full throttle, and Grim. Ron gets Monkey Island Back, and Maniac Mansion, Dave gets DOTT and Steve Gets back Hit The Road.

    Truly, a vision of adventure gaming heaven.
  • edited April 2013
    Icedhope wrote: »
    To be honest..I don't think Disney is going to sell them. But if it does happen..well the creators should get the IPs. Tim gets full throttle, and Grim. Ron gets Monkey Island Back, and Maniac Mansion, Dave gets DOTT and Steve Gets back Hit The Road. Just what I think.

    If Ron was to obtain the rights to Maniac Mansion, doesn't that technically mean that he gets the rights to DOTT aswell, since it's the sequel?
  • edited April 2013
    If Ron was to obtain the rights to Maniac Mansion, doesn't that technically mean that he gets the rights to DOTT aswell, since it's the sequel?

    Give that man a cigar, I believe he's right!*

    * Assuming that OzzieMonkey is male. Apologies if not.
  • edited April 2013
    St_Eddie wrote: »
    Give that man a cigar, I believe he's right!*

    * Assuming that OzzieMonkey is male. Apologies if not.
    Haha, yes, I am indeed of the male variety :p
  • edited April 2013
    Until the thought of the creators obtaining the rights back to the adventure games that they created can become a reality, here's a little tribute I made regarding on the then company that has given us a bunch of great adventure games(with some background on my introduction with Lucasart's adventures)
    http://clxcool.deviantart.com/art/Rest-in-peace-Lucasarts-363962886
  • edited April 2013
    Personally it would be awesome to play another Indy Graphic Adventure game (like Last Crusade or Fate of Atlantis), but I know Disney giving away the rights would be a long shot and all the Indy games now are stuck in "Tomb Raider style" mode.
  • JenniferJennifer Moderator
    edited April 2013
    If Ron was to obtain the rights to Maniac Mansion, doesn't that technically mean that he gets the rights to DOTT aswell, since it's the sequel?
    Not necessarily. After all, Steve Purcell owns the rights to Sam & Max, but Disney owns Hit the Road, and Telltale owns Sam & Max seasons one through three. If Ron (or Gary Winnick) got the rights to Maniac Mansion and Dave or Tim got the rights to Day of the Tentacle, then they'd be in a similar situation that LucasArts was in with Sam & Max Hit the Road after they lost the Sam & Max license. Apparently they were still able to sell the game (since Sam & Max Hit the Road was still for sale in Europe after LucasArts lost the Sam & Max license), but they couldn't change the game's assets (since Sam & Max had to be replaced in the Monkey Island special editions).
  • edited April 2013
    Icedhope wrote: »
    To be honest..I don't think Disney is going to sell them. But if it does happen..well the creators should get the IPs. Tim gets full throttle, and Grim. Ron gets Monkey Island Back, and Maniac Mansion, Dave gets DOTT and Steve Gets back Hit The Road. Just what I think.

    If Telltale or Double Fine or whoever wants to pony up the cash, I think that could happen. I don't think the question is would Disney sell, so much as does anyone who would want the licenses also want to spend that much money getting them. If I were Double Fine, I'm not sure I'd want to spend that much on the Monkey Island rights when I could instead be using that money to just create a new game instead.
  • edited April 2013
    lol the 'creators' is a vague thing. Over the lifetime of a franchise a property is recreated time and again by a vast number of individuals. Which is why IP is a transferable singular thing, because there's no one creator. Ron certainly didn't create Curse, or Escape or Tales.
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