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  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    Does anyone want to read them?

    Not really, but you go right ahead sweetie.
  • edited July 2013
    That reply made me laugh.
    Okay yeah, I'll post them.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    That reply made me laugh.
    Okay yeah, I'll post them.

    Knock yourself out. then wake up and smell the coffee
  • edited July 2013
    Please note that these analyses are not the set in stone. I could be wrong about the conclusions that I make and you are allowed to disagree with me. Also there may be spelling/grammar errors because I sometimes miss them when I edit what I write.

    Here we go!

    Justin - Possible apocalypse community leader

    On the 400th day of the apocalypse, Vince said that Justin went off on his own in an attempt to find a safe community to live in. It is possible that, if Justin fails to find a safe place but comes across other survivors, he could make his own community and become its leader.

    Justin has many qualities of being a leader. He was able to steal money from people by convincing them to give it to him, something that takes a good amount of charisma, strong persuasion skills, and a gift for lying. In a time where people need someone to turn to he would be a good authoritative figure.

    Whether or not he would be a corrupt leader is a different story. In the past he was ruined people’s lives doing what he did. Though he didn’t (directly) kill people, he still had a disregard for their wellbeing.

    He also has a hard time stomaching violence, as seen when he threw up after Vince shot the zombie. But this tolerance for death will change the longer he lives through the apocalypse, possibly making him more willing to kill.

    Though it is unlikely that Justin would become a cult leader, it’s not impossible. He certainly won’t be a moral leader.
  • edited July 2013
    Becca’s Value on Life

    The young girl seems to be very accepting of the deaths of others: She jokingly suggests that Clive could be used as a zombie watchdog if he dies, she was in favour of letting the foreign intruder die, and when Becca finds out that Stephanie tried to steal supplies from them she quickly agreed that the woman should die and even offered to kill her herself.

    This as led people to believe that Becca is very cold and has little value on the lives of other people.

    But is this truly the case?

    Becca and Shel most likely lost both of their parents due to the apocalypse. Losing a parent is a great tragedy, especially when you’ve lost them in a horrific way. When you are older, though it is still very difficult, your years of experience helps you to better deal with this. When you’re young this is much more difficult.

    Dealing with grief would be even harder when put in a situation when you are fighting to survive every single day. Monsters are roaming around, killing your friends and neighbours, and sometimes all you can do is watch as you try to save yourself.

    If Becca had seen her parents die, along with living with the knowledge that zombies and other people could at any moment try to kill her too, it would definitely make her do anything to survive.

    Some adults during the apocalypse have a hard time believing that lives of others are worth as much as their own, and they had years of experience knowing that all lives have value. Children, who are still learning not to be selfish, would have a harder time with this. Becca is not a child, but she isn’t an adult either.

    Becca isn’t cold, she’s just afraid and wants to survive. However, she does run the risk of becoming completely heartless, though this does not necessarily have to happen.
  • edited July 2013
    NOTE This can also be seen as a question for anybody who reads this. Because I don't know how this is possible.

    Eddie shouldn’t be soaked

    On the 41 day of the apocalypse, Eddie shot one of Nate’s friends in the head. Wyatt and Eddie both acknowledge that Eddie was soaked in the person’s blood because of it.

    But that doesn’t make any sense. At all.

    I’ll draw a very bad pictures to illustrate.

    Now, Eddie said that he saw the guy’s brains coming out of the back of his head. Which means that he shot the guy in the face.
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    He shouldn’t have gotten any blood on him. It’s not possible. Unless he teleported behind him after firing the gun. In which case he would have been hit by the bullet.
  • edited July 2013
    Bad and Good

    When we are faced with people who do bad things, both in the fictional world and in real life, the majority will come to the agreement that the souls of those people are completely dark.

    It is very hard for them to believe that bad people are not 100% bad. One of the reasons for this mentality comes from thought that, if these people truly had good qualities, then they would not be able to do the horrible things that they do.

    But if we take, for example, a character from The Walking Dead game, we realize that this isn’t true.

    There was a man who, along with his brother, brought a group of hungry survivors to their farm so that he and his family could cannibalize off of them. But when he found out that his brother and mother were dead he was absolutely devastated. Because he loved them. And love is considered to be one of the most purest quality human beings can have.

    Does his love for his family make up for what he did? No. Does it mean that he isn’t a bad person? No. But it does mean that he is not completely heartless. He is not all darkness.

    People are not only black or white, good or bad. They are gray, regardless of the many shades. And if a story has good writing, characters of that story should be gray too.

    The Walking Dead game has good writing.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    NOTE This can also be seen as a question for anybody who reads this. Because I don't know how this is possible.

    Eddie shouldn’t be soaked

    On the 41 day of the apocalypse, Eddie shot one of Nate’s friends in the head. Wyatt and Eddie both acknowledge that Eddie was soaked in the person’s blood because of it.

    But that doesn’t make any sense. At all.

    I’ll draw a very bad pictures to illustrate.

    Now, Eddie said that he saw the guy’s brains coming out of the back of his head. Which means that he shot the guy in the face.
    tumblr_inline_mqpudbN2uu1qz4rgp.png

    He shouldn’t have gotten any blood on him. It’s not possible. Unless he teleported behind him after firing the gun. In which case he would have been hit by the bullet.

    Chances are you have not seen anyone get shot in the head in real life and only in movies ( i have never seen it either btw ) but bllod would not just come out of the back of his head, it would also expload from the entry wound, and a big ass revolver like that may have infact made the most part of his head EXPLOAD, meaning blood and brains would fly in all directions, plus we dont know how close eddie was to him, or the angle or anything like that, just that he shot him.
  • edited July 2013
    I made a bunch of posts about Nate because he's a very interesting character and I like him (And I really hope he doesn't die if he's in Season 2. But I think he will. SAD) They are very VERY long so I'll only post the links to them here.

    Part 1 - Psychopathy and Mental Illness (with added explanations)
    This post attempts to find out if Nate is truly a psychopath.

    Part 2 - Stealing
    Discuses Nate’s view on the subject.

    Part 3 - 41 Days In
    This one is less of an analysis of Nate and more trying to figure out what happened on this day.

    Part 4 - Russell: Random Stranger or Replacement Goldfish
    This is about how Nate views Russell based on the what the older man has gone through.

    Part 5 - Sexuality and Romance
    Attempting to discover Nate’s sexuality and romantic leanings.
  • edited July 2013
    Chances are you have not seen anyone get shot in the head in real life and only in movies ( i have never seen it either btw ) but bllod would not just come out of the back of his head, it would also expload from the entry wound, and a big ass revolver like that may have infact made the most part of his head EXPLOAD, meaning blood and brains would fly in all directions, plus we dont know how close eddie was to him, or the angle or anything like that, just that he shot him.

    Yeah, I have no idea how guns work in real life. But to see a guys head explode would be awful.

    ...Wait a minute, wouldn't Eddie have said "his head exploded" instead of "brains came out of the back of his head" if his head really did explode?

    And yeah, we don't know what angle he was in. I wish we had a bit more information about what happened.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    Bad and Good

    When we are faced with people who do bad things, both in the fictional world and in real life, the majority will come to the agreement that the souls of those people are completely dark.

    It is very hard for them to believe that bad people are not 100% bad. One of the reasons for this mentality comes from thought that, if these people truly had good qualities, then they would not be able to do the horrible things that they do.

    But if we take, for example, a character from The Walking Dead game, we realize that this isn’t true.

    There was a man who, along with his brother, brought a group of hungry survivors to their farm so that he and his family could cannibalize off of them. But when he found out that his brother and mother were dead he was absolutely devastated. Because he loved them. And love is considered to be one of the most purest quality human beings can have.

    Does his love for his family make up for what he did? No. Does it mean that he isn’t a bad person? No. But it does mean that he is not completely heartless. He is not all darkness.

    People are not only black or white, good or bad. They are gray, regardless of the many shades. And if a story has good writing, characters of that story should be gray too

    The Walking Dead game has good writing.

    Of course :)

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/GreyAndGrayMorality

    http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/EvenEvilHasLovedOnes

    I can get lost in that site for hours; it's a rabbit hole.
  • edited July 2013

    I really LOVE tvtropes! That website is amazing!
    But the fanficrecs for The Walking Dead page needs more work done to it.
  • edited July 2013
    Is the female walker in Russell’s story foreshadowing?

    Look at the walker
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    Even from this angle, she doesn’t look very appealing right? Ten my butt.

    That’s not the point though. Look at her hand.
    tumblr_inline_mpvso43Na71qz4rgp.png

    There’s a hole through it. Now who else do we know that has an injury through the hand?
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    tumblr_inline_mpvsuaFKGl1qz4rgp.png

    Freaking NATE.

    Now, this could just be a coincidence but I don’t know. Maybe this is foreshadowing that Nate will turn into a zombie.

    (No please NO PLEASE. SAD)
  • edited July 2013
    As you can tell by now, I posted all of these on Tumblr first. I'm keeping them the way they are (Unless I see spelling/grammar errors of course)

    HEY HO LET’S TALK ABOUT DANNY

    So I’ve noticed that, even though Danny says that he was falsely accused, the majority (If not all) of the people on tumblr don’t believe him. For a while I wondered by, until I realized it was because no one wants to side with the rapist.

    I’m sure many people believe that Danny really did it, but I also believe the reason why people won’t come out and say “I think he didn’t do it" is because they’re using a “better safe than sorry" policy on him.

    Better be safe and say he did do it than sorry that they believed in him.

    Whether or not Danny did do it, this has some serious real world implications. If a man were to be accused of rape, his life is ruined if he really didn’t do it. This is because either no one wants to believe the man, or they are scared of being on his side. Even if it gets publicly known that he was not a rapist, he’ll aways have that stigma surrounding him.

    Going back to Danny, I will be the first person on tumblr (I think) to personally say that I think he didn’t do it. I am not 100% sure, but most of me believes that this is true. If I am wrong, I will admit that I was wrong.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    I really LOVE tvtropes! That website is amazing!
    But the fanficrecs for The Walking Dead page needs more work done to it.

    Certainly is.

    You are brave for sharing and you've made some good points, although I've not had a chance to read everything yet.


    Re: Eddie and the headshot. They can be pretty messy.
  • edited July 2013
    Certainly is.

    You are brave for sharing and you've made some good points, although I've not had a chance to read everything yet.


    Re: Eddie and the headshot. They can be pretty messy.

    Thank you. I was originally afraid to post them here, but I thought "why not?". Also I got encouragement from people on tumblr too.

    Yeah, I thought so. But how close was Eddie to the guy? We don't know, but I always assumed he was taken by surprise when he saw someone coming towards him from afar. But then again, the guy could have been right behind him, Eddie turned around and shot him in the head. I don't know.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    Please note that these analyses are not the set in stone. I could be wrong about the conclusions that I make and you are allowed to disagree with me. Also there may be spelling/grammar errors because I sometimes miss them when I edit what I write.

    Here we go!

    Justin - Possible apocalypse community leader

    On the 400th day of the apocalypse, Vince said that Justin went off on his own in an attempt to find a safe community to live in. It is possible that, if Justin fails to find a safe place but comes across other survivors, he could make his own community and become its leader.

    Justin has many qualities of being a leader. He was able to steal money from people by convincing them to give it to him, something that takes a good amount of charisma, strong persuasion skills, and a gift for lying. In a time where people need someone to turn to he would be a good authoritative figure.

    Whether or not he would be a corrupt leader is a different story. In the past he was ruined people’s lives doing what he did. Though he didn’t (directly) kill people, he still had a disregard for their wellbeing.

    He also has a hard time stomaching violence, as seen when he threw up after Vince shot the zombie. But this tolerance for death will change the longer he lives through the apocalypse, possibly making him more willing to kill.

    Though it is unlikely that Justin would become a cult leader, it’s not impossible. He certainly won’t be a moral leader.

    An immoral leader of a community would be cool to see in the game. I was disappointed that Crawford died before ep.4

    Problem is, I think Justin makes an appearance as a walker in Russel's storyline if you decline Nate's ride. I'm not sure about this, but undead Danny definitely shows up there if you didn't save him
  • edited July 2013
    An immoral leader of a community would be cool to see in the game. I was disappointed that Crawford died before ep.4

    Problem is, I think Justin makes an appearance as a walker in Russel's storyline if you decline Nate's ride. I'm not sure about this, but undead Danny definitely shows up there if you didn't save him

    Justin does make an appearance in Russell's story as a zombie if you don't save him. Which means that he's a character who may or may not be in Season 2 depending on your choice (if he does show up in season 2 at all).

    Though this post was more about what could happen if he did survive and less about if it would happen in Season 2. If something like this does happen in season 2, then I doubt that he'd be the leader because of his living-or-dead status. Maybe he'd be a right hand man? And if you didn't save him he'd be replaced by somebody else?
  • edited July 2013
    I can agree with you about the fact that some people might kill Danny for the only reason that he's most likely a rapist. It was one of my reasons and I was surprised so many people offed Justin, and often their justification is that Danny was innocent. For me he was guilty, given all the clues I had, and he was trying to repress the memory, like the cop said in episode 1. I don't want to start another flame war, but why do you think he was innocent?
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    Justin does make an appearance in Russell's story as a zombie if you don't save him. Which means that he's a character who may or may not be in Season 2 depending on your choice (if he does show up in season 2 at all).

    Though this post was more about what could happen if he did survive and less about if it would happen in Season 2. If something like this does happen in season 2, then I doubt that he'd be the leader because of his living-or-dead status. Maybe he'd be a right hand man? And if you didn't save him he'd be replaced by somebody else?

    Thanks for clarifying:)

    But yeah, I doubt Justin would be a leader whether or not he survived. He seems more like a subordinate who would use cunning and lying to control things behind the scenes...or something.
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    I can agree with you about the fact that some people might kill Danny for the only reason that he's most likely a rapist. It was one of my reasons and I was surprised so many people offed Justin, and often their justification is that Danny was innocent. For me he was guilty, given all the clues I had, and he was trying to repress the memory, like the cop said in episode 1. I don't want to start another flame war, but why do you think he was innocent?

    Oh my god I don't want to start a flame war too! I remember when I posted it on tumblr I was afraid of accidentally starting something. Nothing did, thank God. I hope that doesn't happen here. :(

    I think he was innocent because of the way he was acting throughout the whole chapter. He did have negative moments, such as when he was pulling the chain at the beginning. But the other times were what really stood out to me.

    The major ones where when he tried to help the prisoner that was getting choked, asking for the police guy to make sure the prisoner was alright, and standing in front of Vince and Justin when the police guy was pointing the gun at them. Those moments just seem far too good for someone who committed such a horrible crime.

    I could be wrong though. Maybe he has his morals in one place and not the other. As Stephen King once said; "Even serial killers will help old ladies across the street" (Or something like that).
  • edited July 2013
    Thanks for clarifying:)

    But yeah, I doubt Justin would be a leader whether or not he survived. He seems more like a subordinate who would use cunning and lying to control things behind the scenes...or something.

    I can see that too.

    I originally was going to write why he won't be a good leader along with why he would, but I was too lazy.
  • edited July 2013
    For me he was guilty, because of all that Justin said, which was most likely true (why would he lie in the first place?), and when I pointed the gun at him he said he did "bad things".
    I also think he repressed his memory because he eventually started to change back into a criminal before the girls got in the group if you save him because of what Russ said. But I didn't know that when I saved Justin, so it doesn't really count.
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    For me he was guilty, because of all that Justin said, which was most likely true (why would he lie in the first place?), and when I pointed the gun at him he said he did "bad things".
    I also think he repressed his memory because he eventually started to change back into a criminal before the girls got in the group if you save him because of what Russ said. But I didn't know that when I saved Justin, so it doesn't really count.

    The whole "bad things" quote from Danny is what's keeping me from being 100% sure that he didn't do it. Seriously, that one line is what's stopping me.

    What Russell said doesn't necessarily mean (although it could be the case) that Danny was turning back into a criminal before he died. It could also mean that Russell learned what Danny was accused and reacted very badly to him. I don't know.
  • edited July 2013
    Yeah, it's difficult to know for sure,but that's what I got out of the clues I was given. But the crime he commited wasn't my only reason to kill him. He was brave, but he was still kind of a dick and not really smart. When the cop pointed the gun at us, I thought that calming him down was the right thing to do, not standing in front of him asking him if he wants to shoot somebody else. And that walker at the front...
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    Yeah, it's difficult to know for sure,but that's what I got out of the clues I was given. But the crime he commited wasn't my only reason to kill him. He was brave, but he was still kind of a dick and not really smart. When the cop pointed the gun at us, I thought that calming him down was the right thing to do, not standing in front of him asking him if he wants to shoot somebody else. And that walker at the front...

    Justin was pretty bad too, but I guess him being smart and knowing how to handle people (through manipulation or just common sense) would put him as a better choice to keep.

    In a realistic situation, Justin would be a better choice because of his people skills and intelligence. All that Danny has going for him (If I'm right and he didn't rape anyone) is that he's nice and less likely to abandon/turn on you.
  • edited July 2013
    I totally agree with you. Both have qualities and flaws. But I think Justin was friendly in his own way, fooling around when the situation isn't serious. I have to admit he has a major handicap with that name...
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    I totally agree with you. Both have qualities and flaws. But I think Justin was friendly in his own way, fooling around when the situation isn't serious. I have to admit he has a major handicap with that name...

    Justin is friendly in his own way, though it took me a while to notice that.

    There's something wrong with his name?
  • edited July 2013
    People don't like some other guy called Justin, and they may associate them. I think you know who I'm talking about...
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    People don't like some other guy called Justin, and they may associate them. I think you know who I'm talking about...

    I actually didn't and I had to google it.
    I didn't know he was on the show! Wow. That must have been interesting.

    But they look nothing alike, though I see what you're saying.
  • edited July 2013
    Anyaway, I enjoyed your Nate analysis, but I think Eddie shot that guy at point blank, probably because he was taken by surprise and didn't see him until he was close.
  • edited July 2013
    Kaserkin wrote: »
    Anyaway, I enjoyed your Nate analysis, but I think Eddie shot that guy at point blank, probably because he was taken by surprise and didn't see him until he was close.

    Ahhh I'm so scared about my Nate analysis posts, because I tried so hard to be true to his character but all I can think is how everything I wrote is wrong (Me being paranoid of course). I'm really glad you liked it though.

    As far as Eddie goes, I have no idea what happened there. You're probably right though, that does make sense.
  • edited July 2013
    Visambros wrote: »
    Ahhh I'm so scared about my Nate analysis posts, because I tried so hard to be true to his character but all I can think is how everything I wrote is wrong (Me being paranoid of course). I'm really glad you liked it though.

    I liked your Nate post, though I can't honestly say I've read it all. I'll get around to that, and I'm sure it will be great. I get paranoid about the stuff I write too, so don't let that get in your way of writing more. Apparently, it comes with the territory.
  • edited July 2013
    Rock114 wrote: »
    I liked your Nate post, though I can't honestly say I've read it all. I'll get around to that, and I'm sure it will be great. I get paranoid about the stuff I write too, so don't let that get in your way of writing more. Apparently, it comes with the territory.

    Thank you.

    I do want to write more analysis posts about different characters, but I have no idea what to write about. Luckily I have other fan related things I'm working on at the moment. Again, I'm kind of nervous putting it up here, but I'm going to do it anyways.

    Freaking out about your work really does come with the territory.
  • edited July 2013
    I know what you mean, I am doing a Fan Fic and I am the same way, hoping that I do not screw up a character like Nate, which I am not sure how I would react if he does die, and I mean think he is a great character, but he is a mad man that will do anything.
  • edited July 2013
    I know what you mean, I am doing a Fan Fic and I am the same way, hoping that I do not screw up a character like Nate, which I am not sure how I would react if he does die, and I mean think he is a great character, but he is a mad man that will do anything.

    Ah the troubles of staying true to pre-existing characters.

    Also I know there's something wrong with him but I still don't want him to die. However, I'm afraid of what he might do so...
  • edited July 2013
    It's a big fear, and it's even larger when the character in question ether does not have a lot of screentime, or has so much screentime, I mean I am not sure what Nate would do when he meets the character, and I have some problems with how people like Booker or Elizabeth would react to somethings, so mixing them together is a lot harder then I could ever have guessed, and since I trust you guys so much, I have to questions, should I keep Carley alive in this Fan Fic, and what should I name it.
  • edited July 2013
    It's a big fear, and it's even larger when the character in question ether does not have a lot of screentime, or has so much screentime, I mean I am not sure what Nate would do when he meets the character, and I have some problems with how people like Booker or Elizabeth would react to somethings, so mixing them together is a lot harder then I could ever have guessed, and since I trust you guys so much, I have to questions, should I keep Carley alive in this Fan Fic, and what should I name it.

    You should keep Carley alive if she adds to the plot. If she doesn't then I wouldn't suggest that you have her, but it's up to you.

    As far as naming it, I'm not sure what it should be called. But think about a common theme in your story and maybe name it that? Or name it after something important that happens in the story but do it in such a way that it doesn't spoil anything?
  • edited July 2013
    Well I guess Carley was going to be a minor character, after some thought it would make the roadside argument not as good, as ether no one dies, or someone less important gets killed, and I do plan on adding Lilly back toward the end, and my idea was that I like reading these fan fics, so what do I do that has never been done before, I thought I was add two of my favorite characters from my other favorite game, hint, it's in the name, along with some of my good friends, plus a few other characters from zombie games I like, and have in Savannah during the beginning.
  • edited July 2013
    Well I guess Carley was going to be a minor character, after some thought it would make the roadside argument not as good, as ether no one dies, or someone less important gets killed, and I do plan on adding Lilly back toward the end, and my idea was that I like reading these fan fics, so what do I do that has never been done before, I thought I was add two of my favorite characters from my other favorite game, hint, it's in the name, along with some of my good friends, plus a few other characters from zombie games I like, and have in Savannah during the beginning.

    Sounds good.
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