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Did Nate know the old couple or where they Lying?

posted by Crixus on - last edited - Viewed by 1.2K users
Said something about guys attacking with Masks,do you think Nate attacked and stole from them before and that he was telling the truth when he said he doesn't know them.I got the feeling that he did know them.
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  • Nate is a tad dodgy if Russell questions him re: being there before.

    Still, I'm not sure masked bandit-ry is Nate's bag. Then again, unpredictability.
  • I was going to agree on the eye for an eye logic with Nate. Since you know he chased wyatt and eddie cause they killed his buddy. But................. He straight murdered those old people and took their stuff. Kinda like "You kicked my dog, I'll kill yours and take the extra dog food".
  • Omid's cat;830453 said:
    I'm sure he knew them. Went for more ammo, met a "helper" and came back. Just look at his action. This men knows what he is doing.
    I support this.

    Nate may not have had a mask but there's nothing to say he didn't have one. We know from Wyatt's story that Nate DID have a friend. Who's to say there wasn't more of them? Who's to say he wasn't in a group originally? Nate seems pretty determined to get into the dinner and he shows no remorse when he shoots the couple even if Russell tells him not to hurt them. Yeah the old guy was shooting at them but his wife was injured, he was trying to protect himself AND her.
  • If Nate was the one who stole from them the first time they would be dead.
  • I thought there was a pretty good implication that he was doubling back, but nothing set in stone.
  • I don't think so. He seemed to just be driving casually along the road when he met Russell, from the opposite direction of where the diner was. He didn't seem to be heading anywhere specifically, just driving along. And, like it was said before, if he knew the old couple, why would he drive his truck right into that old man's sights? He nearly got his head blown off, and while Nate is a bit crazy, he's not going to drive into some guy's killzone and sit there if he knew what was happening. I always saw him making Russell look at the sniper as him trying to build confidence in Russell, especially after he said the whole "This is no big deal" line. It was a bit of mentoring on Nate's part toward Russell, at least that's how I saw it. Him killing the old couple doesn't mean he knew them from before: it just mean's he's a psychopath. Zero value for human life.

    I DO think he was a bandit. He drove by the diner in Wyatt's story, and since we see him in the same area again in Russell's story, I wouldn't be surprised if he was driving down the Georgia backroads looking for survivors to rob or kill. As for why he took Russell with him, well: "You're gonna get eaten out here otherwise, and I'm bored." It was just dumb luck he didn't blow Russell's brains out and steal his bag upon meeting him.
  • Even though you made some good points, there are a couple of things I need to mention...

    1. You mentioned that Nate was alone, but Eddie and Wyatt spoke as if there was more people that just Nate and his friend, mentioning that there were "guys" that got angry at them for shooting Nate's friend as a plural a couple of times and saying "that one guy's eyes (Nate)" which they wouldn't need to do if it was just him, and wouldn't do if it was just him and his dead friend either. This could possibly suggest that Nate was maybe in a larger group but separated from them to chase Wyatt and Eddie.

    2. If Russell responds to Nate's offer of whiskey with "I don't want that sh*t," Nate will get offended and mentioned that he almost died to "procure" the alcohol. This suggests that Nate may have collected the whiskey on a raid with a larger group.

    I think it's unlikely that he had met the old couple, but it is possible that he was affiliated with bandits or raiders earlier on.
  • It seems kinda unlikely seeing as: Russell meets him in the afternoon and he was driving in the way to the truck stop. The woman was shot in the stomach and it was before the two came got there. If she was shot by Nate, then he'd have to first go to the stop, assaulting the couple, wounding the woman, then drive away (which seems to take at least 1 hour) and drive back (with Russell this time). I don't think that old woman would survive all that time with a probably untreated bullet wound to the torso (which would likely hit an organ).
  • Thecat101;830761 said:
    Even though you made some good points, there are a couple of things I need to mention...

    1. You mentioned that Nate was alone, but Eddie and Wyatt spoke as if there was more people that just Nate and his friend, mentioning that there were "guys" that got angry at them for shooting Nate's friend as a plural a couple of times and saying "that one guy's eyes (Nate)" which they wouldn't need to do if it was just him, and wouldn't do if it was just him and his dead friend either. This could possibly suggest that Nate was maybe in a larger group but separated from them to chase Wyatt and Eddie.

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    I think it's unlikely that he had met the old couple, but it is possible that he was affiliated with bandits or raiders earlier on.
    There is indeed a possibility he traveled with a group before the whole incident with Russell. Actually it's likely since we do know he had friends and we don't exactly know how many or what type. However, I personally was referring to the chance whether he was assaulting the old couple before and whether he, at that time, was associating with bandits (which I highly doubt). By the time when Russell met Nate (which couldn't be far from when the old lady got shot since the wound looked fresh) he was traveling alone.
    GiddyKickinwing;830471 said:
    I was going to agree on the eye for an eye logic with Nate. Since you know he chased wyatt and eddie cause they killed his buddy. But................. He straight murdered those old people and took their stuff. Kinda like "You kicked my dog, I'll kill yours and take the extra dog food".
    That's why I said 'vengeful nature joined by twisted morals'. The fact that he killed the old couple in cold blood and took their stuff doesn't take away the chance of 'eye for an eye' mentality, nor does it mean he knew them before. Actually that quote you used sounds like something Nate might think as a totally justified way to answer someone's "crimes". He seems to completely lack the empathy for the old couple and totally disregards whatever motives they had for their actions. The fact that they tried to kill him and Russ "for no goddamn reason" could in Nate's opinion be enough justification to go and kill them instead. I support the theory that Nate hadn't met the old couple before (for reasons I have stated in an earlier post) so the old man was trying to kill them for something they didn't do and Nate's response was a very aggressive one with no room to sympathize with the couple's situation. He seemed obsessed about getting some payback. When he said "Well, we gotta get in there, the fucker shot at us!!!" he seemed dead serious and angry about that. I mean, did you see Russell's expression in response to that? At no point does Nate refer going after them because of wanting to steal from them... well, except when he starts to dickishly joke about what Russ told him about Steve. Sure, he didn't have any problems with actually taking their stuff but I do not believe it was the main purpose of killing them and definitely not evidence that he had been there before for that reason. He did say, before shit hit the fan, that they should fill up and look for some supplies, which is perfectly logical idea when coming to a seemingly abandoned place like this. What's not to take then after the 'real deal' is over? At least that's what Nate seems to think.

    I'm not arguing whether he has done robbing before or not. He might have stolen fair amount of stuff before, might have even killed folks for it, but that doesn't change what I was originally trying to point out: that I do not believe he was the masked bandit the old man was talking about. The question was about whether he knew the old couple from before. Not whether he was a bandit or not at some point of his life.
  • Nate didnt know them.
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