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Kenny, kenny.. How about Lily?

posted by Clem4ever on - Viewed by 15.2K users

Why is everyone go gaga about KENNY being dead or alive but we don't talk about what happen to LILY?

What do you think happen to her? I hope her fate will be explored too.

  • It looks like I have a few people who disagree with me about Lilly. Let me try again.
    Yeah Lilly was the best, I could't get enough of her constant bitching, or the fact she felt it was best to murder innocent group members right in front of Clementine. Yeah, I love Lilly. I hope she comes back, a cold blooded killer is exactly the person I want raising Clem, teaching her to shoot friends when their backs are turned and leave them for dead at the first chance they get. Is this better, guys?

  • I don't find any simple answer to the Kenny vs. Lilly dilemma. Lilly was harsh throughout, though not without justification, but it was Kenny who appointed himself dean of the Drama department by insisting I had to side with one or the other. It was Lilly in the end who had to go, and even then a judgement on her even less summary than she enacted on Carly/Doug seemed too harsh, and I played for time to make a life-or-death decision (one of the rare occasions the game gives you to do so). After Duck died, my reasons for putting up with Kenny's shit dried up pretty quickly, except that he remained unflinchingly on the side of protecting the kids, which in the end included Ben. I'd rather he stayed dead than live with his loss after he had finally emerged a hero.

  • I find the Kenny/Lilly debate tiresome because I enjoyed both characters.

    They both had critical flaws as well as redemptive traits, and I think that's more interesting than viewing either of them as being a one-dimensional villain or a total paragon.

  • People are being way too hard on Lilly. Let's not forget that Kenny is the reason she went crazy! She is a freaking Saint when compared to that ugly cunt Carol from the show! Now that is an evil character right there...

    • And so she takes it out on Carly/Doug.....

      Would I understand her killing Kenny? Yeah. That would make sense. The worst Carly ever did was call her a bitch (which she is).

  • How about neither? I'm probably in a small majority that doesn't want either to appear in S2 but meh.

  • the rant makes no sense by the way. I glanced through and the "points" i saw were horrible and based on a runthrough of the game wher you side with douche bag every single time. if you side against douche bag one single time every point goes out the window. And yea Lilly was a bitch, that's kind of the point. Her character makes sense, while douche bag's character doesn't. even if you save duck, and side with him on almost everything, if you hint to him Lilly is a better leader even once he leaves you for dead. i'm not "team Lilly," i'm just "team anti-kenny."

    • If you read through the long rant, the poster talks about having gone through multiple runs-through with different choices, and finds that Lilly does not mellow no matter how much you take her side. On the other hand, he claims that Kenny does remain open to Lee even if treated badly. It doesn't address any of the ways in which Lilly is sympathetic, or some of the ways in which Kenny can be a real shit. But it's definitely not based on a single, specific run-through.

      • So, I get a thumbs-down for simply clarifying what a post said to someone who admits he didn't really read it?

        • I feel you man, there's a few people here who will thumb down just about anything.

        • Why do you even care if there's some thumbs up or down? Personally I don't even use that feature, because it's anonymous and I want people to know that it is I who disagree or agree with them. If person doesn't take the time to put down few words, but just presses some button anonymously, his/her agreement or disagreement can't be very strong or serious.

          • I was just surprised. The anonymity and one-click laziness makes the spite seem particularly petty. I don't recall the boards being like this back when we were here to talk about Sam & Max. I'm wondering if The Walking Dead brings in a different kind of crowd.

    • based on a runthrough of the game wher you side with [Kenny] every single time

      No, that's false, so either you're lying, either you didn't read it at all. Like JohnnyAngel told you, the poster bases his opinion on various playthroughs.

      The painful truth for Lilly fans or Kenny haters is that if you always side with Kenny, he's loyal and never lets you down.
      Lilly, however, steals the RV and abandons you and Clem even if you always sided with her throughout the game, even if you told her you wanted to go with her.

      Worst Kenny is a douchebag ; Best Kenny is the most loyal friend

      Worst Lilly is a bitch ; Best Lilly... is still a bitch.

      • I can still see that as debatable.

        Loyalty isn't defined by helping your friend because they do whatever you say, and being willing to leave them to die otherwise.

        • Okay then, how about this:

          Worst Kenny is a douche. Best Kenny will follow you into hell.

          Worst Lilly is a bitch. Best Lilly is slightly less of a bitch.

          • Closer.

            We'll need to account for subjective discrepancies in regards to characters acting out of spite, pragmatism, or mental psychosis, but we'll figure it out.

  • I'd enjoy seeing Lilly again (gasp!). Personally, I feel that she can still find redemption just like Kenny did for all the hurt he caused during Season 1. Like Kenny, I don't think she should play a major role in the Season. Maybe a cameo for an episode, and no more. She can make up for what she did, in my opinion, but she has a LONG ROAD AHEAD (heh) before she gets to that point. She was a bitch, on that I agree, but I don't think she was ever a truly evil person. If she DOES realize how horrible her crime was, and wants to make amends, isn't that what matters? If she truly becomes a better person, then maybe Carley/Doug's death won't have been so senseless after all.

    • Their death's would still be senseless, but I'm a sucker for a redemption character arc. Having said that, she has about much work to put in as Andrew St. John (okay nothing quite that bad, but she has a lot. Only reason I use him specifically is that he's the only St.John that had a reasonable chance of survival).

      She has her work cut out for her. Big time.

  • Kill both her and Kenny off. The characters are too controversial.

  • What's the commotion over here? As I am the person who created this discussion, I'm very much responsible on the people commenting here. I'm just pointing out that it would be a great idea if Lily's fate will be explored because her role was cut short when you decided to leave her or she left with the RV. Unlike Kenny, where for me his "death" while helping Ben out of his misery is a good ending for him.

    Guys, please stop quarreling who's better, who's bad because they're good in their on way.

    **Telltale, please release Season 2 already. Look what this "COMING SOON" doing to us. LOL **

  • my point is she is MENT to be that way. Thats what makes her character interesting, and why some people like her. She is a better more consistent character, face the facts. Some people will always like her more than the douche bag and it makes the people with their heads up kenny's ass argue EVERY time. This is a thread ABOUT LILLY. If you have nothing to say about Lilly you shouldn't even be posting here. Lilly's character is the shit. Stop trying to hijack the thread to talk about the douche bag please.

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