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Kenny's Endgame?

posted by Robert Morgan on - last edited - Viewed by 5.2K users

Yup, another Kenny thread. But bear with me.

We've been going back and forth about how Kenny's role in S2 (if Telltale decided to bring him back) could possibly be justified, considering his poignant final scene in S1. Just last night I was watching Steven Spielberg's WAR OF THE WORLDS. During the third act, Tom Cruise and his daughter are holed up in the basement of a house with an insane Tim Robbins. What if a similar approach was taken with Clementine and Kenny?

Maybe in the third or fourth episode of S2, Clem encounters Kenny again, this time in even worse shape than we last saw him. He could be shacked away in some rundown cabin, or better yet, living alone on a rickety old boat out on the water. Throughout the entirety of the episode, it would literally be just you and Kenny. Imagine the last ten minutes of NO TIME LEFT stretched out into a full hour. The atmospheric potential could be through the roof.

Now, the episode could flow in one of two ways, both of which would depend on your relationship with Lee in S1. If Lee and Kenny were on the best of terms, the interaction between Clem and Kenny would take on a more melancholic, wistful tone, occasionally interrupted by a walker attack. If Kenny was your worst enemy, Kenny would be more deranged, and a legitimate threat to Clem's life...more in line with the sequence I mentioned from WAR OF THE WORLDS. The story would then become a more claustrophobic tale, with a little girl attempting to escape from a man she once knew who's now become something less than an animal.

But one way or another, the episode would conclude with Kenny finally dying for good. How Kenny dies would be the ultimate culmination of all the choices and actions the player had wrought upon Kenny's character throughout S1.

(I should mention this scenario could also be applied to Lily for all those fans out there who absolutely despise Kenny, although Lily vanished in episode 3 and wasn't quite as pivotal for the entire run of S1.)

  • I would think this was a great idea if we hadn't already spent so much time with Kenny in season one.

    I think it may be time to let him go.

  • I don't think that Clementine would find Kenny by herself but maybe with Omid and Christa.

  • I have to admit of all the Kenny theories I would be happy with this. Him being almost crazy on a boat would be quite intresting. He saves her and everyone is happy but then it slowly shows he's a bit crazy. This could work with any season 1 character honestly they at first seem fine then slowly reveal there true nature.

  • Sounds nice, but I'm not sure I'd like to be trapped in ONE LOCATION with Kenny for an entire episode. I mean, he's my bro nd all, but one location seems like it would get old a bit quick. Other than that, the idea's great.

    • When I said "one location", I didn't exactly mean Clem and Kenny would be completely confined inside one or two rooms for two hours. If they were in a cabin, they could roam outside for a few scenes in the surrounding forest. Or, if the episode took place on a sea vessel, it would be something much, much larger than the tiny motorboat we saw in S1, like a full-sized swordfishing boat.

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      I just think for a game that's built more on character interaction and unique dialogue exchanges than zombie carnage, this kind of situation could really push the format to its limit.

      • If it's a boat like that, then alright. I just envisioned the boat from Season 1 when you said that, with absolutely no room to... do anything but sit, I guess.

  • Kenny might return as an alcoholic.

  • Kenny is shown to care about Clem, and kids in general, regardless of what he thinks about Lee. Making him an intentional threat to Clementine is just stupid. He's already showing just how damaged he is at the end of the game, but he's apologizing and talking about all his past mistakes. Why would they change that character into a deranged psycho who posed a threat to Clementine under any circumstance? It's pointless and out of character for him.

    • Kenny is shown to care about Clem, and kids in general, regardless of what he thinks about Lee.

      Kenny tells Lee to fuck off if you don't support him a specific number of times throughout the game, no matter how much Lee pleads and begs. This is not the action of a man who cares about "kids in general". Take the monster Kenny became in that one scene, and multiply it by ten.

      He's already showing just how damaged he is at the end of the game, but he's apologizing and talking about all his past mistakes.

      I kind of doubt a few brief snippets of dialogue would completely guarantee the state of Kenny's mind. He might seem a little apologetic towards Ben, and he can finally bring himself to care for Clementine, but I wouldn't say a guy who tries to rescue a kid in an alley who's clearly beyond help is "all there". At any rate, this semi-crazed version of Kenny wouldn't necessarily be trying to kill Clem directly, but his behaviour could be so erratic and unpredictable (again, depending on his relationship with Lee in S1), he could easily put Clem in mortal danger.

  • Holy shit, my parents were watching War Of the Worlds last night too! Small fucking world!

  • I don't understand why people assume Kenny would be crazy if he came back in season 2. Believe it or not, but people don't go insane when their family members/loved ones die. Sure he'd be a broken shell of a man but would he go 'crazy'??

    It always seems like cheap plot device when a character starts losing his or her mind after the loss of a loved one.

    • Curious how more than a few forum members were demanding outright that Kenny should only come back as a villain in S2 (if he came back at all), but when someone actually puts forward a scenario where that would actually happen, said forum members go ballistic. Make up your minds, guys.

      • Okay then, this ship theory is full of crap IMO. I think Kenny shouldn't be a villain. Maybe just a member of Tavia's community. He should have a minor role as a temporary companion and then that's it. I don't want to decide his fate, that should be up to TT.
        I made my mind up, all right?

        • I would like to see kenny appear in Russel's ex group, since for the "leader" SEVEN was the magic number and without Russel they are just six. I mean maybe Kenny will be in the group and maybe Clem will encounter them and they will ask her to join them. I don't think TT would make such an elaborate description of the group, mentioning all his members and then don't make the group appear in at least one episode.

  • Kenny is DEAD. face it, and let him go. His end game is him turning into a walker or seeing his guts on the street.

    • If we see a body, it'll be let go. But there's too much evidence from a writing standpoint that he might still be alive. While in reality, he probably would have died, since the writers went out of their way to make sure we never saw anything concrete, and that they kept his ending slide as a vague "lost", it seems to indicate that they might have been wanting Kenny as more than a corpse in Season 2, especially given the edits that his "death" scenes had.

      • I'm guessing Kenny was supposed to die, but the writers found a way to make it interesting and let him live in a way the his death his ambiguous... So not my favourite charatcher, but someone I hope to see returning in season 2.

      • Yes, think about Merle from the show, he gone missing in the first few episodes and then he reappeared in the 3rd season.
        Basically, we don't know anything concrete. :)

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