Who Clementine was talking about *MASSIVE SPOILERS*

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  • I'm thinking it's going to be someone who is introduced in episode 2 and gets injured badly (to the point of seeming like they're dead or close to it) or somebody from episode 1 who goes through the same thing. Telltale knows what we have on our minds after playing through episode one, we're mostly wondering where Christa is and where Kenny is since they confirmed his fate would be explored, but it could be just about anyone. How about the guy who wanted water? Or even the girl that shot Omid? It could really be anyone, but we're all focused on the stories we most want to be continued.

  • Looking at where he was shot, I came to realize it's pretty close to where Carl gets shot (the first time he's shot, now) and he lives.

    And Carl gets saved by Hershel, a vet, so for all we know someone could've run into Omid, possibly Tavia's folks.

    Should I mark this? It's like super early on stuff on the comic and second season in the TV show, also it's not too big of a thing either.

    sardines posted: »

    It was Sam the dog, obviously. Back from the dead! Seriously, um... I hope it's Omid. I know it's not Omid. Then the other hal

  • The guy who wanted water...

    I'm sure he'd have a bone to pick with me if he were alive...

    I'm thinking it's going to be someone who is introduced in episode 2 and gets injured badly (to the point of seeming like they're de

  • PHEW! I'm glad I'm not the only one who experienced that creepy-ass glitch. Carlos's model was also standing blankly in the other bedroom, too.

    But that's obviously Nick, yo.

  • It's obviously Omid's cat.

  • That's what I said but people still think omids dead when he's not lol. Omid got saved by the doctor. because remember the doctor said they were in the same group as the bandits

    Dieskrad posted: »

    Looking at where he was shot, I came to realize it's pretty close to where Carl gets shot (the first time he's shot, now) and he liv

  • It can't be Omid because the only way for him to have survived would be if Christa or Clem left him intact enough to turn, and I don't see that happening with them. They'd have put a mercy bullet in his brainpan and buried him if they had the time. Omid is dead dead dead.

    Christa still makes sense because in the scene where you distract or try to run, there is a sound of gunshots and her screaming out. While that's not concrete evidence, it's still enough to convince a kid who's running terrified that she was very probably dead. I'm hoping for Lilly, though. Lilly and Clementine would mess zombies the hell up.

    And all the folks who're going to come out saying Clem wouldn't forgive Lilly for Carley/Doug, I'm pretty sure Clem forgave Kenny for Larry.

    Lol'z remember we still have 4 episodes to go. Soon we will find out what happened to Krista's baby, and if you watch the second epi

  • Well here are my nominees

    1.) Kenny

    • Blind death so not really sure
      2.) St.John Brothers

      • Based on the cinematics, Clem asked if they were dead and if you either kill them or not. Lee wouldnt tell it and clem would probably think they're dead.
    • Group asked if she was working with "Them" You'll never know
      3.) Lilly

    • Like most people are saying
      4.) Cancer survivor group (Vernon's group)

    • Just wanted to add them in it coz I'm feeling like they're not yet over with their role and clive was on 400 days so.

  • Then it's Tupac Shakur AKA Makivali the Dawn. Clems favorite rapper is Tupac, so she thought he was dead. He told us all he would return in 2014 on one of his songs played backwards. Tupac returns as a Walking Dead character...

    ceekyuucee posted: »

    It can't be Omid because the only way for him to have survived would be if Christa or Clem left him intact enough to turn, and I don

  • Clem was pretty innocent still back at episode two, and if I recall correctly, she was ignoring the whole situation (eyes closed and covering her ears) I mean she obviously can put two and two, but still, with the St. John's she asks if it was totally necessary, I don't know (or actually, don't remember xD) if she asks Lee if it was necessary to kill Larry, the difference is that Lilly kills Doug/Carley out of pure anger, and as smart as Clem is to figure out that Ken kills Larry, she's smart to figure that he did so to protect everyone on the meat locker.

    Now, Lilly and Clem is a nice match-up, but there is a Lilly in the comics too, if my memory is right, and she's on Woodbury (she's on one scene and I only remember her existance for what she does lol).

    Also, you don't really know if Christa kills Omid (as in, headshot kill), why would Telltale show you how she kills the stranger bitch that takes Clem's gun and not show us Christa putting Omid out of his misery?

    It's really a mistery.

    ceekyuucee posted: »

    It can't be Omid because the only way for him to have survived would be if Christa or Clem left him intact enough to turn, and I don

  • Also, you don't really know if Christa kills Omid (as in, headshot kill), why would Telltale show you how she kills the stranger bitch that takes Clem's gun and not show us Christa putting Omid out of his misery?

    I don't see them letting him turn. But definitely I don't see them leaving him unturned and alive for someone to find him and stitch him up somehow. They either left him dead and becoming a walker. Or they left him dead and not becoming a walker. I think it's the latter.

    Dieskrad posted: »

    Clem was pretty innocent still back at episode two, and if I recall correctly, she was ignoring the whole situation (eyes closed and

  • I view both the death of Carley and Doug as accidental. Both crimes of passion. Lilly had a breakdown after her dad died and then with the raid which injured Duck (which we don't know if she knew about, but she was super protective of kids, so I'm going to assume she did know). She was not herself and I'm pretty sure she regretted it all. Kenny, though, he was acting just like Larry was. OH GOD BITTEN, MUST KILL BEFORE TURNS. The difference is that Kenny did kill Larry. He did it on purpose, though it could be argued that he was in a shit situation, too, given that cannibals just kidnapped his wife and son.

    Clem probably figures they were both screwed up people in a screwed up time and didn't blame either of them for it. Neither Lilly nor Kenny were extremely horrible people. Just people not handling stress well at all.

    Two Lilly's, yeah, due to a retcon. I'm not familiar with the specifics.

    I would put good money on her giving him a headshot. If she didn't kill him and he was okay, she wouldn't have just left him. Not ever. So either she left him to turn or she mercy-killed him. They probably didn't show it because they've always been pretty discretionary about showing mercy-killings. We don't usually get to see them, even when we're participating (I can think of one: Fivel in the attic). Hear them sometimes, yeah, but seldom see them. Except Clem on Lee, just to drive that knife into the wound harder.

    It does seem weird to leave it out, but it's even weirder to me to think means much because I seriously can't imagine Christa leaving Omid turn.

    (also, could people in this forum pleeeeeeeeease stop saying "bitch" so much?)

    Dieskrad posted: »

    Clem was pretty innocent still back at episode two, and if I recall correctly, she was ignoring the whole situation (eyes closed and

  • Fivel's the kid on the house in episode 4, right?

    If you decide to stomp his head, you get to see it (and it's absolutely sick) don't know with the other choices.

    Thing is, Carl passes out when he's shot, so Omid might've just passed out, but imagine if you're Christa, you go into a bathroom and see him laying there with a shot wound, you wouldn't really think he'd be alive, nor really want to check his pulse.

    It's all speculation, I mean I guess I might be in denial because I liked Omid so much, and also he was that one character that always lightened the mood when things looked like shit, although I can see Luke fulfilling that role, still.

    ceekyuucee posted: »

    I view both the death of Carley and Doug as accidental. Both crimes of passion. Lilly had a breakdown after her dad died and then wi

  • The girl that shoots Omid gets shot in the stomach, and by the angle of Christa's shot the bullet might have went through her liver, maybe I just watch too much Law & Order, but that doesn't seem to be the case with Omid.

    I'm thinking it's going to be someone who is introduced in episode 2 and gets injured badly (to the point of seeming like they're de

  • But Clem only meets Vernon and Brie, and I think Clive mentions Vernon dying. Also you can kill the St. John brothers, it doesn't make sense because what happens if in your season 1 save you killed both of them?

    Epiczaurus posted: »

    Well here are my nominees 1.) Kenny * Blind death so not really sure 2.) St.John Brothers * Based on the cinematics, C

  • How bout their mother? She could always patch them up.

    Dieskrad posted: »

    But Clem only meets Vernon and Brie, and I think Clive mentions Vernon dying. Also you can kill the St. John brothers, it doesn't make sense because what happens if in your season 1 save you killed both of them?

  • i thought you where dead could be referring to anyway the stranger the saint johns christa

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    @Dieskrad wrote:
    So I made a list about all the possible people that could've been the ones to spark Clem's surprise at the end of the trailer for episode 2 where she says "I thought you were dead".

    1. Nick or Pete: If you go with Pete, you don't see Nick getting killed or anything, you see him going into the woods shooting walkers, although my theory isn't that backed up if you choose to go with Nick since you can see Pete getting attacked by several walkers, but still. This is most likely a Duck/Shawn situation anyway. (As in, you go with Pete, Nick survives but Pete dies eventually because of the bite, and if you with Nick you spare the old guy some pain).

    I mean Clem probably blames herself for the supposed death of these characters so she would be surprised to see any of them.

    1. Lilly: This one is one of my favorites, imagine if Clem saw the person that even Lee thought was too much harm for the group that he left her behind/let her stay on the RV out of pure mercy. Also, Telltale said this second season was gonna be tied with the comic book, right? In the comic book, if I'm not wrong, there is a Lilly in Woodbury, that might appear only once (not spoiling what she does), but her actions mimic the game's Lilly, at least in my opinion.

    They could try to put Woodbury in the middle of the whole "who the hell's Carver, guys?" "yeah, can you all freaking trust me already?", and stuff.

    1. Kenny: We all know the reasons, we all know why we want/don't want him back. Yeah.

    2. Omid: This here is my favorite choice, let me explain before everyone goes "BUT HE BE SHOT MAYNE". Omid is shot under the chest, and on the opposite side of the heart. Christa seems rather irrational about the whole situation (she just shoots the girl that shot Omid not even aiming at her), and she might have skipped the "check the pulse, and the breathing" routine since she just entered a nervous wreck.

    What if someone found him, a doctor, and helped him get through the whole thing. Again, in the comic book (seriously this happens very early on but I don't want to spoil) someone gets shot around that area and is saved by not a doctor but a veterinarian.

    1. Maybelle: Because reasons.

    2. Lee: Because we are still in denial ;_;

    I think it is Lily.

    Christa is far too obvious, which is why I don't think it is her in that scene. There would be practically zero shock value to running into Christa again, so I think the devs have written either Lily or Kenny into that scene. Of the two I think Lily seems to be more likely, since Clem's reaction was negative. Clem doesn't seem happy to have run into whomever she ran into.

    There are a few people who have been mentioned by fans that I think we can safely rule out.

    Omid: Shot in the chest in a zombie apocalypse setting where there are no longer ambulances and no more trauma centers. Omid was critically injured and in desperate need of modern emergency medical attention. Unfortunately for Omid, that no longer exists. Having him survive that wound without the benefit of that would stretch believability beyond the breaking point, so I think it is extremely unlikely the devs would ever bring him back. Also Clem's reaction in the teaser was negative, whereas a reunion with Omid would presumably be a happy one. I think its safe to consider him permadead.

    The St John Brothers: They've been mentioned in a few threads discussing the episode 2 teaser, but I think people are forgetting (or unaware) that Lee can kill both of them in Season 1. And unlike Lily or Kenny, their ultimate fates aren't uncertain. If you have Lee kill them, there isn't any doubt that they are dead. One gets electrocuted and the other impaled with a pitchfork. The only way either one of them could show up in the teaser, was if it was a scene that doesn't carry over for all playthroughs. I think given the fact that many people killed the St John brothers however, makes it unlikely either one would end up in a teaser for Season 2.

    Nick or Pete: If Clem goes with Nick there isn't any doubt that Pete dies. If Clem goes with Pete it does seem however that Nick might have escaped. Still, I think it would be unlikely to be him because a lot of players had Clem go with Nick. In fact more chose Nick over Pete. Like the St John Brothers, its probably unlikely that a scene so dependent on player choice would make it into a teaser.

    I think the best bet is Lily, followed by Kenny. The rest are longshots.

  • I don't think we should overthink the meaning behind "I thought you were dead." Even if Clem didn't see Kenny, Christa, or Lilly die directly it's been 18+ months since she's since Kenny or Lilly so it's not out of the realm of possibility that she would have just assumed they were dead by now. Ditto with Christa- who knows how much time has passed between episode 1 and 2. It could be a few weeks later and I don't think it's reaching that Clem would have just assumed Christa died because she never saw her again and because she found that dying guy at the river with her stuff which means those guys, whoever they were, found their campsite and her backpack. Likewise, although I agree Clem didn't look happy to see whoever it was I don't think we should read too much into that either. Agree she wasn't all "OMG I'm so happy to see you!" But she could just be shocked to see whoever it is and incredibly surprised that they're alive. A lack of happiness in that first moment doesn't mean she's scared- it could be shock.

    I'm betting on Lilly though. First off, unless TTG does some real suspension of disbelief / supernatural stuff there's a few people you just know it won't be- namely everyone who died onscreen in the first one. Lilly doesn't die, nor is it implied that she dies at any time. You either leave her perfectly "safe" on the side of the road or she steals the RV and drives off.

    Kenny- It's POSSIBLE but really unlikely. He was cornered in a tight alleyway so it's unlikely but certainly not impossible.

    Totally blanking on the name- the ninja chick with the climbing axe from Savannah. The cute blonde with the short hair. She's also a possibility as she never dies either- just leaves at the end of season 1. Clem would have no reason to think she's dead but again, it's not crazy to think that anyone she hasn't seen for a while would be dead in this world.

  • Isn't Glenn an overlooked possibility? Or am I forgetting something that would have ruled him out? It's been awhile since I've played season one.

  • Unless that scene is the cliffhanger at the end :-/

    Kenny- posted: »

    Can't wait to find out in Episode 2

  • The mother was bitten as well.

    Epiczaurus posted: »

    How bout their mother? She could always patch them up.

  • Truth be told I don't remember what happened to Glenn in season 1.

    Ikkida posted: »

    Isn't Glenn an overlooked possibility? Or am I forgetting something that would have ruled him out? It's been awhile since I've played season one.

  • He's in the comics/TV show..

    Ikkida posted: »

    Isn't Glenn an overlooked possibility? Or am I forgetting something that would have ruled him out? It's been awhile since I've played season one.

  • I realize that I just didn't remember if anything happened to him in the game.

    He's in the comics/TV show..

  • I still think its obvious choice. Its Kenny. In my version Lilly run off. Why should Clem think she is dead? In Kenny situation Omid and Christa probably said to her Kenny is dead and didnt go in to details about his death. So yeah. I think its Kenny but i find Lilly more interesting and i hope its her.

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    If you guyz had kenny more than 1 bullet the preview will be diffrent for S2 ep2 so I know its kenny cause I left kenny with 1 bullet at the alleyway and when I din't fire at zombies in mansion in another game the preview was diffrent

  • The only reason I'm not completely sold on that being Christa is because Clem asks the dying man what happened to her- which she would have no need to do if Christa was laying right there.

    Made posted: »

    You mean her? If so, that's not Christa that's the woman from episode 5 (her model, not the actual person) for comparison:

  • I do agree that Clem has more reason to think Kenny is dead than Lily. But what really makes me think Lily is more likely is Clem's reaction. Clem does not seem happy to run into whomever she ran into, and that makes a lot more sense with Lily than it does Kenny.

    Tesla89 posted: »

    I still think its obvious choice. Its Kenny. In my version Lilly run off. Why should Clem think she is dead? In Kenny situation Omid

  • Yeah, there's no way this'll ever happen, but I want Clem to be brought in to see "Carver" and there's Duck sitting on a throne of skulls.

  • I think it could not be Omid. Even though Christa didn't seem rational when he got shot, she would have definitely buried him.

    Scaeva already gave a good explanation why it's probably Lilly, maybe Kenny.

  • I really hope it's christa,I don't really like those temperamental twats like kenny or lilly

  • The game takes place in the same universe as the comic book (not the TV show)

    Glenn goes back to Atlanta to find his friends in the end of Episode 1, Season 1.

    My point is Glenn is with Rick's group and never leaves to something that is not seen in the comics.

    TWDavid posted: »

    I realize that I just didn't remember if anything happened to him in the game.

  • I'm sorry but we didn't met the same Lilly then ...

    She was very nice to me the all time she was around.

    IceRyder posted: »

    Yeah she's a real bro. A buddy that expects you to kiss her dads ass and doesn't care that he tried to kill you. A buddy that alwa

  • She didnt thought that Christa or Lilly were dead. Its Kenny - Deal with it. ;)

    Herodriver posted: »

    I really hope it's christa,I don't really like those temperamental twats like kenny or lilly

  • It can be Lilly, Christa or Kenny... But yeah. Lilly and Christa are just MIA so "I thought you were dead..." Kenny. I hope so THIS TIME it's Kenny.

  • Ken or lill

  • I think it's Lily or someone who's not fond of Clementine. Seeing her reaction, I don't think Clem is happy to see her. :p

  • I honestly wish at least once we could have a character who didnt have to come back. I think this is one of the reasons they just blasted omid in the first few minutes, just to stop speculation.

  • Better not be him. I want Lily!

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