Traumatized Clementine.....

edited December 2013 in The Walking Dead

Dont you guys think Clementine is traumatized or at least kinda should be? (I dont want her to). Since day 1 she saw Lee crushingg heads, guts, and so much murder and horrible things. Well of course she is in a world filled with walkers now so what else can she see and do! I just think its so sad and is it just me or does it feel kinda weird seeing Clem talk the way she talks now (like threatened, bkackmail, etc) and how grown up she is? What do you think about old Clem? I miss her dress by the way! :P but she is rockin the new style!

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  • Would anyone really be surprised if she has some sort of emotional or psychological problem? They probably wouldn't be as severe if you were a good guy as Lee but she is still bound to have some problem.

  • And yet she looks better than Sarah haha

  • Yeah, it's kinda sad how she's gonna grow up being a sort of war machine, and probably develop a few social and trust issues along the way.

    At least she's not as bad as comic-Carl. Yet.

  • Yeah . I have seen the show but whats so bad about Carl?

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    Well he's killed another kid, been shot in the face and had an eye removed, and almost became the victim of sexual assault, to name a few. That's bound to mess a kid up.

  • Oh! But he isnt missing an eye!

  • I dont want clem to die, but if they were to just end the game series I dont see how there is any other way. Other then them finding a cure but thats never going to happen, at least not yet.

  • Yeah especially in Telltale's world

  • I wouldn't be surprised if she suffers from more than a touch of PTSD. She also has a bit of the thousand yard stare going on when we cut to her older at the campsite.

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  • edited December 2013

    She's probably traumatised as much as everyone in a zombie-apocalypse world. Also, she only talks manipulative/blackmailing IF you choose her to be. I did not pick any of those dialogue choices and she was still as honest and kind as she could be. But Lee's death is surely left a scar on her, you can see that if you pick the right dialogue options in her conversation with Luke at the dinner table.

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    I think if the world suddenly got better tomorrow (in TWD), she would need some major therapy to live a stable, healthy life as an adult. But since she needs to be in a constant state of alertness, she just "doesn't have time" (to bleed!) for the worst symptoms of her trauma to manifest. But there's undoubtedly a lot of subtle signs there that she's messed up on some level. Even her survival is sort of a pyrrhic victory; she will forever be robbed of the person she would've been before TWD S1E1, and all the great potential that went with it.

  • I think there's a difference between being traumatized and adapting to your surroundings. In my opinion, it's attitude, confidence, and self-control that make that difference.

    Based on how my Clem acted in S2E1, I'd say she's not traumatized in the least. She remembers her tragedies without being owned by them, reacts to new situations in a practical way, and acknowledges how messed-up the world is without losing herself to despair. If anything, she's unrealistically tough and centered for an 11-year-old after all she's been though.

    I'd say Becca from 400 Days is legitimately experiencing trauma. From the way she talks it's clear that she's lost hope and been dulled to the remaining good things TWD's world has to offer. Clem doesn't seem to dwell on the good or the bad, instead focusing on her survival - though she can still trust and cooperates with others while showing reasonable sadness over what she's lost while showing none of the hopelessness that Becca displays.

    Clem's a rock, man. So far the apocalypse shows no signs of beating her.

  • She is definitely a rock! Man I Love her!

  • I know she doesn't blackmail unless you choose but just by having those choices for her makes a difference

  • im sure everyone who would survive would need a therapist if things got normal again and Clementine would definitely be a sweet little angel she was in season 1. it sucks how things have to change so quickly but i like how she can take care of herself now and i blackmail sometimes. i mean if the choices are there why not use em! i don't wanna threatened though

  • What is up with you 2?!

  • That's the one thing I love about Clem's character, she's always been this brightness in that dark world, like voting to keep Ben alive and always staying hopeful about her parents. She was pretty much Lee's light and my personal canon playthrough is for her to try and remember that quality and for her to hang on to it.

  • In the comic he goes through a LOT of seriously messed up stuff. In the TV show, the worst he goes through is killing Shane and his mum, and having to see his dad have a total nervous breakdown.

  • I actually feel the impossible. I dislike this new Clem. She's so apathetic. She just doesn't give a shit. The only time she came alive to me was when she was stitching up Sam's mess. I am just gonna denounce everything that happens in season 2 if episode 2 is shitty, too.

  • If being badass was a mental disorder, then yeah. I think she's 'grown up' with the horrors of the walkers. If anything, it'll be harder to traumatize her.

  • Well, thats not the worst. Look at what happened at the midseason finale, where he broke down.

  • CannibalCarlCannibalCarl Banned
    edited December 2013

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    Look at this face and then tell me he's not already a sociopath. A 9 year old boy grinning like that is definitely not normal.

  • Is he still 9? I thought he was 9 at the beginning of the comics so he must be 10-11 now?

  • In the comics he was 7 when the apocalypse started.

  • I'd say Becca from 400 Days is legitimately experiencing trauma. From the way she talks it's clear that she's lost hope and been dulled to the remaining good things TWD's world has to offer.

    People hate the way she acts but you can't really blame her in a post-apocalyptic world, especially if she's more weak-minded than Clementine. Unlike Clementine it seems like she's kept out of the loop sometimes so she doesn't really have a full picture of what's going on which explains her quick changes of opinion and mood.

  • Why are you playing S2 if you dont like clem? shes still the same girl.

  • Im sorry, I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I disagree. I like this new Clem . She is the same girl but she cant show it since all these things are happening. How would you like to see a still innocent defenseless girl that cant survive and take care of herself in season 2? It would be pretty harsh...

  • Funny, I'm the opposite; I liked every piece of Clem's character development except for the suturing scene because I feel it's almost too badass to be believable. I mean, I know grown adults who I don't think would be capable of sewing up a wound like that, probably including myself.

    I think Omid's death is key to understanding the current state of her character. As she explains later in the episode, that was when she truly realized that her innocence and childlike nature could get her loved ones killed. She realizes that she can't always be sweet and vulnerable; that it makes her a liability. And so in the following 16 months she hardens her heart and tries to become more cagey and self-sufficient.

  • I'm not saying Becca isn't justified in behaving the way she does. The zombie apocalypse is obviously rough, and I'd expect more kids who are dealing with it to be traumatized than not.

    Everybody deals with stress and tragedy in that environment. Clem was shut out of group politics more than once in E1, suffered loss, and witnessed her fair share of horrible things. What makes the difference is remaining strong and not letting it change you for the worse, like turning to nihilism like Becca seems to be doing.

    I don't rule out the possibility that Becca will be over her trauma if/when we see her again. Maybe after the events of 400 days she'll find inner strength like Clementine. But for now, from what I've seen of her, she's in a bad place. She's trying to harden herself against everything she deals with, but in a destructive way.

  • everything you wrote is...is...YES!

  • Because I used to like Clem. I used to love Clem. So I bought the season pass for season 2. The reason I don't like her anymore is because... Fucking listen to her voice. She sounds like she doesn't give a shit about anything. Granted, it makes sense, but I'd rather play as someone who fucking cares. Every line after Omid's death is just like, "Oh. Who cares. I don't."

  • I wouldn't want to see that. But what I want to see even less is a girl who could give a shit.

  • By lowering her voice? Even when she's swept up in the river, her screams sound like, "Oh." She sounds like someone trying to sound scared. It's mostly the voice acting, honestly. Also, for the suturing scene, if you'd been in the apocalypse for two years, and had been taught how to sew yourself up, you'd better fuckin be ready to sew yourself up.

  • Yeah, her voice sounds strange, like not giving a crap, or like she was tired or sth.

  • I didn't notice anything off about Clem's VO personally, but to each their own.

    As for the suturing, I honestly hope I'd be capable of that after 2 years of zombie apocalypse... Though it's hard to say what level of badass I'd achieve in that circumstance without living it.

    More than likely I'd be dead a couple months in. XD

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