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    only a moron think kenny is a badass

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    I actually agree with this. I mean, its unlikely but still plausible. Because TT didn't give Molly a "Goodbye" scene like with Kenny.

    Stolenmango posted: »

    Hey,what if it's Molly?I know it makes little to no sense but it isn't impossible,nor illogi-well I suppose it is a little illogical

  • Well at least we have obamacare not

    Are you playing the same game I was playing? In the alley one there was literally 12+ zombies… ON EACH SIDE. Boxing him in. The only way out was a dumpster (according to what people who think he's alive say)

  • You don't think it was badass for him to close the gate and stay with Ben?

    Also, nice editing of your reply after you realised I didn't say Kenny is as badass as another character.

    only a moron think kenny is a badass

  • Uhh... I never said they were bandits?

    And why wouldn't they? They already gave a spoiler saying his fate would be explored. How much of a spoiler would it be for it to be Kenny, exactly? And I think you already over-thought it.

    Your mentioning Lilly never being seen again, and trailers sometimes being "inaccurate", is interesting. But how do you know they ar

  • Telltale wouldn't have put that into the episode 2 teaser if the person wasn't known by the player. It just wouldn't be necessary to the teaser. It has to be someone we have seen at the very least, but I'm leaning more towards a primary character of season 1. It could have been one of the 400 days characters (over 16 months, who knows who Clem has met) but it SHOULD be someone we know.

    That might be the thinking behind giving Clem that exact dialogue in the cliffhanger for the first episode of season two. "They will

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    JesseG posted: »

    I know this is shooting out of the blue, but to be honest, I thought it was Glenn, because he drove off towards Atlanta, when the ra

  • It's 99% not Glenn dude. The group is heading north, while Glenn stays with Rick's group basically till the end. The only sliiiiiim chance is from the moment they leave Georgia for Maryland(Washington DC). HOWEVER, the others in the group were not in Rick's group of the comics, so anyone of Rick's group is basically accounted for. It wasn't any of them.

    JesseG posted: »

    I know this is shooting out of the blue, but to be honest, I thought it was Glenn, because he drove off towards Atlanta, when the ra

  • "Lilly would be the last person I'd think would be with the bandits."

    Saying his fate would be explored is not a spoiler if he isn't the person that Clem thought was dead. His fate can still be explored.

    Oh, and most people commenting are over-thinking. That was supposed to be an intentionally ironic obvious truth.

    Mark$man posted: »

    Uhh... I never said they were bandits? And why wouldn't they? They already gave a spoiler saying his fate would be explored. How much of a spoiler would it be for it to be Kenny, exactly? And I think you already over-thought it.

  • It makes it a better cliffhanger, bro. You're jumping to the conclusion of "it must be someone I already know" just because that makes more sense to you. While you could be right, it is not a given.

    Mark$man posted: »

    Telltale wouldn't have put that into the episode 2 teaser if the person wasn't known by the player. It just wouldn't be necessary to

  • What would have made a better cliffhanger was many things. They wouldn't need to add an incentive to play the next episode if it wasn't legit. Who WANTS it to be the bandit that attacked Christa? It'd kinda be a let-down for me, since the way the cliffhanger implied it is that the person is someone we know, and Clementine is familiar with, and thought was dead. It doesn't make more sense to ME, it makes more sense as a whole.

    I could just as easily say, "You are jumping to the conclusion that it is some setup to make the episode more exciting, just because it makes more sense to you. It's not a given." No offense man, but it is preeeetty obvious that nothing is a given until we see it first-hand, but some things are more likely than others.

    It makes it a better cliffhanger, bro. You're jumping to the conclusion of "it must be someone I already know" just because that makes more sense to you. While you could be right, it is not a given.

  • Neh, so I did say bandits. My bad. Not that they couldn't be bandits. It seems more like they are a hostile group than anything.

    And no, it is a reveal that Kenny will be seen somewhere, ya know? As in, sooner or later, we will see Kenny dead, alive, or undead. I'm saying that if Kenny WAS the person Clem is referencing, then it wouldn't be a surprise. We know we will see Kenny, and so to make a big deal out of the situation in the trailer probably won't mean anything. Kenny will most likely appear to save Clementine when she needs help, but not in that cutscene, because it wouldn't be as much a shock as say Molly, or Christa, or Lilly.

    And true.

    "Lilly would be the last person I'd think would be with the bandits." Saying his fate would be explored is not a spoiler if he is

  • The offscreen thing does matter. If we'd heard Kenny being eaten even though offscreen I'd say yes he obviously was killed. He wasn't heard though. This kind of thing happens often. If someone is supposedly killed offscreen then they could always be back. Moreso if they were supposedly killed offscreen and weren't even heard being killed. I don't know who I'd rather it be

    The one with molly saving Kenny is pretty humorous. You're right. I think if it is indeed Kenny there might a flashback of some connection on how Clem learned about his apparent death and hopefully a flashback explaining how Kenny survived.

  • No one said he's exactly like Tyreese. It's entirely possible he managed it though. The point is it is humanly possible, not that he's obviously exactly like Tyreese or Merle so he can do the same things. Kenny isn't the oldest guy either. It is possible

    why do you morons keep making it seem like an old man is tyreese, just because you like kenny dont make him something hes not

  • That's a stretch Lilly wasn't that kind of killer, unless they wronged her in some way, I doubt it's her. My money is on the psycho in the truck
    (I forget the name) from 400 days.

    Arbitrator posted: »

    Pete said it wasn't your common garden thug that killed the river group. That's what seems to imply it was Lily to me. Sure, she was more of a desk jockey but she'd still have better firearms training.

  • This. We're waiting months on this arguably huge cliffhanger for what could be the even bigger cliffhanger of the next ep. Cue more waiting

    what if that's how sesaon two episode 2 ends? she says: I thought you were dead. and then BOOM black screen. telltale you sunofabeeyotch.

  • Ikr. How dare anyone's opinions differ

    only a moron think kenny is a badass

  • Agreed. People assume because Lilly murdered one person in the moment that she's a born killer. That's exactly how Larry acted toward Lee for similar reasons. Nate or Tavia's people are my guesses

    Fangs posted: »

    That's a stretch Lilly wasn't that kind of killer, unless they wronged her in some way, I doubt it's her. My money is on the psycho in the truck (I forget the name) from 400 days.

  • Lilly talked to her when Lee was away and gave her hair bobbles. They weren't that distant or unfriendly

    Mark$man posted: »

    Okay then... let us see... Lilly in the end of the credits to season 1, is said to 'never be seen again' when the results of the

  • Who plays the game and needs an incentive to play the next episode? Your reasoning is flawed. The cliffhanger creates this dialogue and unites and divides the "community". I mean, do we even know everyone that Clem thinks is dead?

    I'm not jumping to a conclusion. It is a cliffhanger. This is fiction, bro. Nothing in-universe is more likely. And just to be clear, it would make sense from a fan-service point of view to write Kenny into season two in a significant way. But from a critical perspective, there needs to be a very good reason and explanation if Kenny survives and goes North. I'm not just saying "I think this happens next", I'm thinking of how the story should be written.

    Mark$man posted: »

    What would have made a better cliffhanger was many things. They wouldn't need to add an incentive to play the next episode if it was

  • We don't even know if it's one person that Clem meets. It could be a plural "you" that she thought were dead. We could get to play as Kenny during one episode, and die. That would really be a mindbender.

    Mark$man posted: »

    Neh, so I did say bandits. My bad. Not that they couldn't be bandits. It seems more like they are a hostile group than anything.

  • Once again, and just rethinking the scenario Kenny was in in the alleyway. He locked himself in there. He had more than enough time to shoot Ben than leave with Lee. But he wanted to go out a hero. So if Kenny is in fact alive, he essentially lied and chickened out. None the less, you can argue that it is Kenny but not from a realistic standpoint. The zombies were literally on top of him. He had to punch one just to stay alive long enough to shoot Ben. There was at least 20+ zombies and more to come with the gun shot. The windows were boarded up with wood. Highly unlikely he punched through one in a matter of mere milliseconds to escape. No possible escape.

  • The dude who looked through the files uncovered the script where it describes Clementine being "stunned." If I saw a guy I thought was dead I would be stunned too, I definitely wouldn't be all ecstatic as my brain would need some time to process it.

    True, but her reaction was (at least for me) in a tone of "I-thought-you-were-dead-because-I-havnt-seen-you" I mean its been what? 2

  • Clementine would be "stunned" at the re-appearance of anyone. Lilly, Kenny, Christa, Glenn, Molly, . . . enter any name and it would fit in some context.

    The dude who looked through the files uncovered the script where it describes Clementine being "stunned." If I saw a guy I thought was dead I would be stunned too, I definitely wouldn't be all ecstatic as my brain would need some time to process it.

  • I don't know why people are insisting on the bandit dude when we last saw him too injured to walk and surrounded by walkers. He's dead, no telling how badly he was shot up and he could barely breathe.

    I think people are fixated on this dude because of how the Stranger came out of nowhere last season and so are latching on to one-time characters. From a writing standpoint that scenario was plausible, but if this guy miraculously makes a recovery and just so happens to appear in the mountains a few days later I would be calling bullshit.

    Gengar posted: »

    Are we 4getting about the bandit in the river? It could be him though

  • I find it really hard to believe that she didn't ask about Kenny in the 20 some months she was hanging out with someone who saw Kenny's sacrifice.

    Also, please tone down the aggressiveness dude, the people who believe Kenny lived are entitled to that opinion until proven wrong, same goes for the camp who thinks Kenny died. Please be nicer about it.

    might - key word. If someone can defend their Kenny standpoint without using "might" "probably" "should" "may have" "could" or "possibly" that would be really great.

  • That would be an amazing coincidence if walker Kenny somehow made his way from Savannah, Georgia all the way to the country side of North Carolina. I would have a hard time believing that is even possible, also it's been over 16 months. A Walker Kenny would be almost unrecognizable to the player if he just magically showed up. Think about all the players who didn't recognize Doug and Carley when their dead bodies showed up in 400 Days? A lot of Let's Players I saw didn't even react until the comments when someone pointed it out.

    Just like there was almost no way it wasn't Kenny in the trailer? I can't wait until we finally run into a Kenny walker and get to shoot it in the face so that this argument can die.

  • If we're being realistic, let's look from the dev's story point of view. According to the voice actor of Kenny, Kenny's death was originally more obvious, but from the sounds of things, Telltale wanted to leave themselves an out in case they ever wanted Kenny to appear again. Also, it being said 'Lily was never seen again' is not a confirmation that Lily won't appear again. Plans change and the most obvious plan with her supposed to being comic Lily is the most obvious plan changed. As for who the person is, it's either Kenny or Lily. Christa would have no reason to have a cliffhanger like that unless Telltale's simply trolling again in which case it might as well just be someone they thought died in episode 2 as well. Personally, I'd rather Kenny stay dead in the first season despite him having been my favorite character. As for who the person is in episode 2, I'd guess Lilly if anyone.

  • Interesting theory. That would be a great way for Telltale to piss everyone off. Lol. I really hope you're not right about that. :)

    Stolenmango posted: »

    What about the girl in the beginning of season 2 episode 1?The one that shot Omid?She was gut shot,still breathing and Christa proba

  • I could logically see that happening. With the dead so focused on Ben, Kenny can just pull a Lee and just push his way through and be fine. I do think Kenny should be injured just so the "Dead Kenny" camp won't be calling bullshit on his return. Maybe a missing leg so he has a prosthetic leg (Dale/Hershel) or missing an arm so he has a stump(Rick/Merle) which would be interesting since we currently don't have a handicapped character currently alive besides the possibility of Pete if he survives.

    Guest posted: »

    Both characters could be alive here is why: A) Lily was trainend by the Air Force, so she might received training in how to use a

  • So if Lee decided to stand there and gawk (Which he did) he won't get his face chewed off and to stop Lee from trying to interfere and risk his life when he needs to save Clementine. I don't know how you think Kenny shot himself AND Ben at the same time as that's almost impossible. First of all, I don't think guns work like that as in they can't penetrate both someone's head and have enough power to break through someone else's skull unless he just shoved his head next to Ben's. Also, we clearly see Kenny pop a shot at Ben and run off screen. That is a fact you can't argue about.

    Alternate explanation for Kenny shutting the gate: To be dramatic?

    Then why did he shut the gate first?

  • This is a very good point. Gavin Hammon (Kenny's Voice Actor) said that they didn't use the death screams recorded and made the scene more ambiguous than what was originally intended. I know Kenny is a badass and all, but if he's got eaten by zombies then he'd probably be screaming his ass off, he would not be really stoic about it.

    Kryik posted: »

    The offscreen thing does matter. If we'd heard Kenny being eaten even though offscreen I'd say yes he obviously was killed. He wasn'

  • Kenny looks like he's about forty years old and looks to be in pretty good shape. He's not as built as Tyreese but if Lee can just walk through an army of walkers without a scratch then I think Kenny can do the same thing to a group of twenty zombies who are probably focused on eating Ben's fresh corpse.

    why do you morons keep making it seem like an old man is tyreese, just because you like kenny dont make him something hes not

  • Honestly, with the Ben scene, Kenny could have pulled an "Armed with Death" on the walkers, similar to what Lee did outside the marsh house. The guy Clementine was talking about? No evidence without context, probably anticlimactic so Kenny could be teased in episode 3.

    As Clem said, "You'll never know,"

    At the very least, I would like someone who believes Kenny is coming back to give a good explanation as to how that could happen wit

  • Guys, it's Clementine! She was just looking at a mirror.

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