I went after Tweedle Dee

edited December 2013 in The Wolf Among Us

I went after tweedle dee instead of the Woodsman at the end of episode 1: Faith. I think blue beard committed the murders based on his history with beheading young females. However, i need to know more about blue beard to make an assumption. That's why i went after tweedle Dee, since i dont know much about him. It would also make sense for the woodsman to have killed faith, being that he was with her the night of her murder with an axe which can behead. However, i just want to know more about the tweedle brothers before i dive in to one suspect. The woodsman also seemed ready to give up when Bigby was talking to him in the bar, but then again, i cant be to sure. I, mean no one expected Faith to die at the end of the episode am i right?


  • I don't think it is either of them. They both seem too obvious, Bluebeard and the Woodsman. That would just be bad plot lol.

  • I went for Tweedle Dee/Dum too. IMO it's the best choice because it's obvious that the Woodman had nothing to do with the murders. Just look at the guy, he has no idea about the fact that Faith was killed and feels guilt for planning to rob an old lady a couple of hundred years ago; he wouldn't hurt a fly.

    On the other hand, Tweedle Dee/Dum atleast has some valuable investigation-grade info and we know very little about their motives (who they work for, wether they are really investigating or just cleaning up the crime scenes...) .

  • You're saying you went after Tweedle for evidence? I just wanted revenge for beating me up. Time to smack him around a little.

  • Went after Tweedle, seemed more reasonable, Woodie had already spilled his beans. And i wanted revenge for beating me up at the alley after the chase.

  • It's not Bluebeard....

    He only beheads women he marries and he hasn't done that since crossing over.

  • It was worth getting beat up to wake up to Snow kneeling over us with a faintly amused expression on her face. :p

    That's one of Episode 1's standout moments for me... Snow, the stunning valkyrie, knelt over our fallen Bigby in preparation for ascending with him to Valhalla...

    ...Oh man, I lost my train of thought.

  • I went after Dee as well. Whatever is going on, he's neck deep in it. I didn't think it was Woody, with the pathetic way he was begging to Bigby.

  • But what was he doing in the trailer for Episode 2? He's obviously up to something bad, seeing as Toad is pretty worried about it.

  • That's not true.


    It's true that Bluebeard killed his wifes - and in this, he was like serial murderer with his own specific modus operandi. But he also was highly ruthless: remember he went as far as killing the unfortunate journalist (who Bigby already blackmailed into silence) just to be absolutely sure he's not going to mumble about Fabletown? He's more than capable of 'just murdering' anyone he deems capable a obstacle of threat.

    Also, Bigby was leading investigating about. It wasn't about murder, it was about harassing Fables for money. He could well harass both Prince Lawrence and Faith for money, use magic to prevent them going to Fabletown's sheriff and then kill Faith as he saw her as threat. (She could well spill beans to Bigby if he figured some magic is preventing her from telling and 'fixed' it)

  • I went for the Woodsman. I mean, if he had nothing to hide, then why make a run for it?

  • edited December 2013

    For one, he'd probably be arrested / judged / whatever by the very same Bad Wolf that has every reason to have very large grudge.

    Now, as Woody, would you really want to be interrogated by person who (by your own judgement) hates you most?

  • Bigby doesn't care that much; he wants his past behind him. His reasoning for arresting the Woodsmen is that he was the last one known to be with Faith after her murder. Personally, I think it was her pimp.

  • Honestly I don't think killer is on Snow's list. I went afther Tweedle Dee just because he was covered in blood and as soon as he stepped in Trip Trap he was about to say something "I got a hundred bucks if someone can tell me something about a girl named..." He stopped when he spotted Bigby. I mean why would you go afther guy that looks sad and had an axe in his brain, I felt sorry for Woodsman =P

  • But that doesn't matter. What matter is whether Woodsman thinks Bigby's going to take his little revenge.

    (And I also blamed her pimp, but I still went for Tweedlee Dee. Either he knows something or at least he knows where Bluebeard ordered him to look.)

  • Woodsman had means and motive to commit the crime. He said out loud he would kill faith and he was the last person to be seen with the victim so far. His alibi of being in the bar during the murder could be a lie just like gren lied about him not being there before he showed up. He is, at that point, suspect number one. I'm pretty sure the tweedle brothers have important information and are probably hired by the pimp. But I went after The Woodsman for nothing else but to take him out of the picture of this whole investigation(im pretty sure he didn't do it). Going after the other guy just seemed metagaming, as I knew a 5 episodes serie wouldn't end on EP1 by catching the most probable culprit.

  • Alright. I don't see it that way, but I see your point. I don't know, I am playing it again, so I don't know who to arrest.

  • Plus, he was intoxicated when he last seen with Faith. I know he says he is a piece of shit and didn't do it, but he could have killed without any remembrance.

  • but you can find blue jean fabric when investigating the scene where Faith's head is found. Woody as far as we have seen only wears brownish pants.

  • I think the evidence that I found during my play-through plus deductions that I have made rules out The Woodsman.
    1) Woodsman is clearly drunk during the night of the murder. To track down, cleanly slice her head off, take off her ring, tie it to her necklace, and place it in her mouth is unlikely. then hop a fence and carefully face the head? Doesn't add up for me.
    2)So far we have only seen the Woodsman in brownish pants. Near fence that the murderer jumps you can find blue jean fabric and unless Woody changed pants then changed back I don't think he placed the head at least.
    3) Woody doesn't run immediately unlike the Dum. He is nervous because he and Wolf beat the shit out of each other the night before.

  • Tweedle Dee didn't wear jeans either.

  • It has also crossed my mind how dee and dum even knew about faith being murdered. The only person Snow and Bigby told was Crane and the Tweedels started investigating before Bigby even had started. Makes me think that Crane might have hired them.

  • "WHAT DID YOU DO CRANE"-what bigby said in the episode 2 trailer. so crane has obviously fucked something up

  • But given that this is a prequel, if it was him he'd have to get away with it. Worst ending ever.

  • Woody is definitely up to something; he has to be. His story is too inextricably linked to Bigby's and his character is just too interesting for him to not play a role in the unfolding story.

  • I like to look at The Wolf Among Us as a roleplaying exercise. If anyone here has played even a little Dungeons and Dragons (which heavily involves roleplaying) you'll know about the importance of avoiding meta-gaming. You can't act with knowledge that your character doesn't know. It may be obvious to me that The Woodsman isn't the killer (I would also suspect that Dee and Dum are equally unlikely), Bigby Wolf wouldn't think this. The way I "played" Wolf, he went into the bar to get the Woodsman, he sure as hell wasn't gonna let him get away. I also genuinely believe that the Tweedle Brothers are looking into the murders, given the general distrust most Fables seem to have of Wolf, it makes sense that they would attack Wolf if he got too close.

  • Of course. But he could well be just trying to escape from prison and/or clear his name under the increasing pressure. (Which should be enough to mess with Bigby's investigation somehow.) I don't think he's connected with murders.

  • Why? That he didn't executed? Truth be told, I don't want murderer apprehended and killed: would much prefer somewhat darker ending, where Bigby's could deal major blow to Bluebeard position, while not being able to just walk in and 'kill the bad guy'.

  • The patch of clothing matches the weird ginger that pops up multiple times

  • He must know something. I believe he's connected, but definitely not guilty.

  • edited January 2014

    I dont' think we've met the culprit, yet. I don't think it's Bluebeard and I think Bluebeard hired Dum and Dee to investigate. Perhaps it's a character that has a vendetta against Bluebeard and is trying to frame him? I went after Dum (or Dee, they weren't dowb to their skivvies so I didn't know which was which and didn't pay very good attention) I kept quiet and chose silence when talking to the Woodsman, I let him tell his story without interrupting and he more or less has absolutely no idea about Faith and was more interested in coming clean about robbing Red Riding Hood, or wanting to rob her.

    I'm curious to see what's going to go on between Beauty and the Beast. I bet Beauty has a simple side job waiting tables and she just doesn't want to offend Beast's ego or something, ha. I'm not sure how to deal with that situation, I played through a few times and I just can't seem to stick with a way to deal with that situation.

  • I forgot about him, I seen him the first time when Snow and Bigby ran into him. Then I thought I saw him again when Bigby was chasing down one of the brothers through the building? Bigby was lifting up the couch to get under it and continue the chase, I thought I seen the ginger laying down like he was knocked aside, but that could be my mind playing tricks on me, it has been a few months since Ep. 1 was released

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