I thought you were dead! Suspects

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  • Kenny. I 100% think it's Kenny.

    I mean, the only way we're going to find his walker is if we start moving BACK to Savannah, or that general area, but Clem's in North Carolina. Unless Kenny did infact get out of the alleyway/building, made his way to North Carolina and THEN died.

    Kenny's fate is going to be explored.

    What makes more sense? That Kenny's walker went from Savannah to North Carolina, or that alive Kenny made his way to North Carolina with possibly a group or alone.

  • Is it bad this made me tear up?

    Made posted: »

    Not sad, surprised. People keep saying that they see some sort of emotion other than surprise in that scene. But there isn't. It

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    Kenny's not dead

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    Not at all, there are thousands of these homecoming videos on youtube. They're all very emotional. If you're in for a real sobfest just browse a bit. You watch one, and then there are like ten others in the related-videos-bar, so...

    Is it bad this made me tear up?

  • who knows who it is though some suspects are Chet, Hershel,Kenny hopefully,Glenn,Lilly,Christa and molly it could be any since Clem said i thought you were dead. she could have thought that Chet was killed as well as Hershel when the zombies came and Kenny though unlikely i put him in here because i want him to come back. Glenn Lilly and Molly were never seen dead and they just left so she could have thought that they died from zombies. Christa is unlikely because when Clem's running you hear a gunshot most likely killing her.

  • That doesn't make it right, and there was no proof that Larry was officially dead. Justified, yes, but no less wrong.

    King97 posted: »

    Kenny thought that Larry was dead and about to turn. That's a better reason to kill someone than out of anger.

  • Please don't let THAT be Carver...

  • Im hoping it is Kenny, but it could also be that guy Clem gave water to when they came across that group of dead people near the end of S2, Ep 1. He was the only survivor out of the group.

    Berty213 posted: »

    Agreed, I want it to be Kenny but I think it's going to Lilly.

  • It makes it significantly less wrong, it means he didn't do it because he was a bad person, it means he isn't really a murderer.

    There is a 5% chance to survive a heart-attack without help, Kenny needed to save his family from certain death and there was a 95% chance a huge zombie was about to attack him while he was unarmed in a small enclosure. That's beyond justified, I'd call it self-defense.

    That doesn't make it right, and there was no proof that Larry was officially dead. Justified, yes, but no less wrong.

  • For peeps sake Lol are people that stupid? TTG has already confirmed Kenny is alive Lol. All because they said his fate will be discovered in season two does not mean he's dead. They mean that the decisions you make in the game will determine if he lives or dies when he comes in the season. Plus did anyone even notice or realize Kenny could have got captured by The Stranger. Why? Look closely at the gun he's holding. That is the gun Lee gave to Kenny. Plus it is possible the stranger put Kenny in the room he was hiding in and Kenny Escaped when Lee and Clem left. Two he put Ben out of his misery so that he could draw walkers to him. That was Ben you here screaming. Three Kenny still would have got captured by stranger if you see Kenny down there. Three Molly could have saved Kenny from the walkers using Hilda. Four possibility saved by one of the people from 400 days. Also remember stranger had a son but he did not know where he was? I think the person Lee saw at the gate was strangers son. Why because stranger was too busy with Clem at the Hotel and he mentioned he never seen where his son went. Only thing stranger knew was his wife and daughter were killed. And yea these are spoilers... I thing stranger showed Clem a pic of his son thinking he was dead. strangers son could be who she thought was dead... so yea stop saying Kenny is dead because he's not.

  • Kenny dead. Sorry couldn't resist XD

    In all seriousness though, Kenny was my favorite character in season 1. The ups and downs in his and Lee's friendship was the second best thing about TWD next to Lee/Clem. There were points where I thought, man Kenny's a bastard (like when he wouldn't help Lee at the drug store). I also think apart from Lee's death, Kenny's 'death' scene was the most powerful (if Lee saved Ben...the other one was so-so) and the way he redeemed himself was top notch.

    To that end I wouldn't want Kenny to return in season 2 simply because his redemption left such a good impression of him, I wouldn't want to see that besmirched in anyway. That's just my opinion though. As for who I hope the ITYWD suspect is, I hoping Lilly because the drama that will go on between her and Clem will be much more entertaining than if it was Kenny.

    Lilly Dialogue: Clem: "I thought you were dead...you killed Carley/Doug" bitch slap

    Kenny Dialogue: Clem: "I thought you were dead...YAY UNCLE KEN!"

    For peeps sake Lol are people that stupid? TTG has already confirmed Kenny is alive Lol. All because they said his fate will be disc

  • maybe it's Chet.

  • or maybe its bandit-who-got-shot-in-arse

    Derringer posted: »

    maybe it's Chet.

  • If Kenny comesback would he need to look much different because of Nick?

    Rock114 posted: »

    I doubt it's him too, unfortunately. The thing with Nick made me more cynical.

  • If she was truly not shocked at all she'd say something. It was a horrible thing to do and I wouldn't forgive her but she was emotionally unstable. If she really wasn't shocked she'd probably draw on the others in case they reacted or she'd start defending herself instantly but she doesn't. She just stares like she doesn't know what just happened

    You people are unbelievable. Talk about reversing roles ! For someone who "acted out of emotion", Lilly reached for her gun, drew

  • Why would she think lilly is dead ?

    Lilly does seem a likely candidate. If it was Kenny, I'd like to believe that he would be someone Clem could trust right away, desp

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    I honestly think it's Omid. It still just doesn't make sense to kill him off that quickly in Episode 1, and I doubt that bandit worked alone (a stretch, but still a possibility).

    Only other people I see returning are Christa, Kenny and the man you could give water, or someone in Clem's current group goes missing and the group thinks them to be dead. I don't think it would be Lilly though: Omid was shot, Christa is heard getting shot at (IIRC), Kenny's death would have been told to Clem, the man was half dead and in a zombie attack, and the last for currently unknown reasons. Lilly just ran away, and since it is a universal response, the choice of leaving her behind or not is irrelevant.

  • He died when Lee strangled him. The choice to shot him is not whether or not to spare him but rather do you leave him to reanimate as a Walker or shot him so he doesn't come back. Why else do you think the choices are "Lee killed Stranger" and "Clementine killed stranger" and no "spare stranger" option.

    Sampz posted: »

    I doubt it's the stranger who took Clementine since you have an option to kill him.

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    Chet can become a walker if you wait for nightfall rather than go out during the day. So not him.
    Hershel's dead in the comics. So not him.
    Kenny's possible.
    Glenn's dead in the comics. So not him.
    Lilly's possible.
    Christa's possible.
    Molly's possible.

    My thinking is that it's someone Clem saw be attacked by a walker but she fled before she saw them get killed. Clem's chat with Nick in episode 1 suggests she doesn't believe Christa is dead. So that eliminates her. Clem's voice also doesn't sound excited so not someone she'd be happy to see. So likely someone she wasn't thrilled with or someone who attacked her previously. So possibly one of the people that attacked her and Christa at the beginning after Omid died or the girl from the bathroom. But if the two shot Omid in the head to ensure he didn't return, chances are they did the same to the girl to ensure she didn't sneak up on them (alive or as a walker) if they took the time to bury Omid, or to at least ensure she didn't eat Omid if they just left him.

    St. John brothers aren't likely. Both are killable.
    The Stranger isn't likely. He's killable.
    Vernon is a maybe, but Clem never saw him be attacked so why would she think he was dead?

    Returning to Lilly, she's a possibility, but Clem never saw her be attacked by walkers. Chances are Clem wasn't looking out the back of the RV to see the walkers start to arrive on the scene (if you left her). Otherwise,Lilly just drove away. Clem has little reason to believe Lilly's really dead so that bonks her out of the possibilities.

    Kenny Clem never saw be attacked. At best, Christa and Omid would've told her he ran off to escape walkers after either putting Ben out of his misery or saving Christa. Judging from the fact that Clem kept the picture of Kenny's family after 2 years, she'd be happy to see him and possibly even thinks he may still be alive. As much as I want it to be Kenny, I don't think he'll appear in that scene. I'd bet more on him being the cliffhanger at the end of the episode leading to episode 3 or at least appearing after the halfway point.

    Molly's too much of a loner to be with a group. She barely tolerated spending as much time as she did with Lee and his group.

    Possible it's the guy you give/refuse water to, but how would he escape the walkers? He was barely alive. He was already turning grey suggesting he lost a lot of blood and walkers were on both sides of the river. He was an easy snack. Very much doubt someone else came out of the woods without the walkers noticing them, grab the guy, and run off. The guy was as good as dead. Water isn't going to save someone from blood loss. Does beg the question the point to that choice if it won't play into something else, but possible someone was at least watching from the forest line. We don't know what drew the walkers to the area. Possible those that killed the river group split up and rounded up walkers to bring them to the river to eat those they killed to hide evidence or just disrespect the dead that much more. Maybe someone was hiding out in the trees to escape the walkers chasing them and the walkers caught the scent of Clem, etc at the river so went after them. The guy/gal can then see if Clem gives the dying guy water or not. Then his/her opinion of her changes depending on what she did. Maybe the person watching is Christa and she somehow killed the river group because they were partly behind the attack on her and Clem. When she tried to get away, she ran into walkers so ran back to the river only to see strangers now on the scene. She hid and saw Clem. Then she can either smile when Clem refuses the guy water and think she raised Clem well or curse when Clem shows mercy by giving him water. Then Christa returns in episode 2 (or later) at some point and can use the water against Clem depending on how it went. Christa can't be that far from Clem if one of the guys who attacked them ended up at the river. That is if she's alive. Since Christa was either shot/stabbed by the group who attacked her and Clem, maybe she was saved by another group that then helps her kill the river group.

    It's not a fair game (of speculation) if Telltale has the person be someone we have yet to see. Even introducing the person at the beginning of episode 2, have them be attacked early, and returns by the middle or end of the episode isn't fair. Has to be someone that has already appeared and Clem believes to be dead.

  • Eh. I'd say she could be alive. Lilly Caul really wasn't in nearly as bad a position as Tyresse was.

    Lilly does seem a likely candidate. If it was Kenny, I'd like to believe that he would be someone Clem could trust right away, desp

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    I say it's Omid. At least, I want it to be him. He's the only character with an incomplete arc, who is completely a good person, and a good influence. And it would work with the "I thought you were dead." We all certainly do. Maybe it grazed his lungs because of the angle between him and the bitch? Then, before they could bury him, or even find the proper tools to bury him, zombies showed up and chased Christa and Clementine away. Then, the ones who were left were possibly killed by the bald dude and the Asian guy in the hood before they could eat Omid.

    Bah, Telltale hates fun, so this probably isn't true.

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    Kiaralight posted: »

    lol I am trying to spread the idea about it, but so far everyone is dead set on it being Kenny or Lilly neither of which I think work as well with the general set of things..

  • Are you f*king kidding? We don't know the details of Lee's situation before apocalipse. The guy he murdered may very well deserve it, and Lee said he was a bad man. But in the game we can see Lee being just, rational and kind (well, if we choose him to be). Lilly, on the other hand, killed an innocent person. That was absolutely unforgivable. And if you think she can be redeemed, try placing yourself in place of Carley. You sure can talk about redemption when it's not you getting killed, but I bet if you knew she was gonna kill YOU, there would be no punishment cruel enough you would gladly place upon her. Am I wrong?

    Kryik posted: »

    Agreed. People are all for condemning Lilly for an action she made in the moment out of stress, depression and paranoia, arguably ha

  • What? Ain't we buy the whole season as one game?

  • As far as we know, the senator was a good guy. Just slept with the wrong woman, it seems. Lilly made a choice to punish those who deserved, while simultaneously destroying a threat. If you save Doug, she would've prevented Kenny dying, probably would've saved Clem in those walkers, would cut off your arm for you... Damn, I just reminded myself of the time Ben saves your life. If you bring him alone, or him and Omid/Christa in episode 4's epilogue, then Ben catches you if you don't stick the jump. I was so happy when he did that. Anyways. If you save Carley, then she makes a bad judgement call. Nothing evil about that. Just kinda dumb.

    AnKun posted: »

    Are you f*king kidding? We don't know the details of Lee's situation before apocalipse. The guy he murdered may very well deserve it

  • tbh I didn't see what happens if you save Dough, maybe then I would think differently of her, but now I'm talking about Carley scenario. And I'm still standing my opinion on that.

    Harpadarpa posted: »

    As far as we know, the senator was a good guy. Just slept with the wrong woman, it seems. Lilly made a choice to punish those who de

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    I love Doug... But he really does make her better.

    AnKun posted: »

    tbh I didn't see what happens if you save Dough, maybe then I would think differently of her, but now I'm talking about Carley scenario. And I'm still standing my opinion on that.

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    What if it's Sarah? Notice how she only appears in two scenes in the preview for episode 2.

  • What about Jesus? He was crucified and died for sins or something. Now he's back and Clementine says - I thought you was dead, and Lord says - do not be afraid, I'm not a zombie.

  • Dayum dawg, yo angry. Who cares if the guy Lee killed deserved it? It doesn't make it right. Being just, rational and kind doesn't mean you can't murder. It'd depend on her reasoning. She's mentally unstable so I'd lock her in the RV under guard and keep away from her or leave her. I wouldn't murder someone before they can have the chance to redeem themselves one day. She'll be haunted by what she did forever which is good enough

    AnKun posted: »

    Are you f*king kidding? We don't know the details of Lee's situation before apocalipse. The guy he murdered may very well deserve it

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    This is why I'm more toward letting her redeem herself. Both acts are utterly horrible and can't be forgiven but at least here it was a genuine accident. I was with Doug first playthrough

    Harpadarpa posted: »

    I love Doug... But he really does make her better.

  • 5% without help, yes.

    But Lilly and optionally Lee do help.

    Velorian posted: »

    It makes it significantly less wrong, it means he didn't do it because he was a bad person, it means he isn't really a murderer.

  • 'Died for sins or something'

    Butt-head posted: »

    What about Jesus? He was crucified and died for sins or something. Now he's back and Clementine says - I thought you was dead, and Lord says - do not be afraid, I'm not a zombie.

  • It's one of the Dairy Brothers, the one in the barn you "killed" or spared (it would be either surprising if he wasn't dead from Lee's attack or if he made it out the barn while the farm was overrun).
    For those two reasons:

    • Clem did't seem to be very happy while saying "I thought you were dead", so it probably is someone she doesn't like.
    • He was mentioned in the recap which was short and presumably only showed vital information.
  • OK reviewed the scene on youtube, he's very likely dead if you stabbed him but it still would be surprising so i wouldn't rule it out :)

    affenfranz posted: »

    It's one of the Dairy Brothers, the one in the barn you "killed" or spared (it would be either surprising if he wasn't dead from Lee

  • It wasn't Jesus on the cross it was his twin brother Judas and he was crucified so that Jesus could come back and make it seem like a miracle and Judas was passed down in history as the bad guy to remove and suspicions and that he betrayed Jesus. It is logic guys. That is the real story of Christ the savior or should be know as Jesus the extreme prankster and Good guy Judas.

    Flog61 posted: »

    'Died for sins or something'

  • Are you from Finland?

    Tomi021 posted: »

    lol legend

  • the guy on the door is a man, not molly. Same dude is on episode 2 slide with binoculars.

  • He doesn't need to look any different at all.

    I mean, dat stache. A sign on his back saying "Kenny" couldn't identify him as well as his glorious facial hair does.

    Kryik posted: »

    If Kenny comesback would he need to look much different because of Nick?

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    You Finnish with this yet?

    Are you from Finland?

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